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Re: wagner vs putin

From Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com>
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Subject Re: wagner vs putin
Date 2023-06-28 12:41 +0200
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Am 27.06.23 um 16:50 schrieb Matthias Eißing:
> Am 27.06.23 um 13:29 schrieb Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer:
>>> Eine "echte" Murmel verschiessen ist im/am Panzer eine ganz andere
>>> Hausnummer, als Platzpatronen mit Projektil.
>>>
>>
>> Nun, die neue Übungsmunition ist die DM88 Tracer. Wenn die ballistisch
>> der Gefechtsmunition entspricht, kann der Unterschied nicht mehr so groß
>> sein.
> 
> Flugbahn-Gleichheit sagt nichts über das Patronen/Geschoß-Gewicht
> 

Die DM88 ist die Übungsmunition für das Pfeilwuchtgeschoss der 120mm 
Kanone. Bei allen bisherigen Übungsmunitionsarten für 
Pfeilwuchtgeschosse wurde bislang nur das teure Material der 
Gefechtsmunition durch preiswerteres Material ersetzt. Abmessungen und 
Gewicht wurden nicht verändert.
Es gibt ja auch die DM18 als Übungsgeschoss für die Mehrzweckgranate 
DM12. Auch die DM18 entspricht in Form, Gewicht und und ballistischen 
Daten der DM12. Enthält halt nur keinen Zünder und Sprengstoff.
Man geht so nahe wie möglich an das Original heran.

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wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 22:14 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 22:22 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-23 14:03 -0700
  Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-23 23:18 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 23:38 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-23 23:59 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 00:02 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-23 22:19 +0000
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 00:37 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-24 06:52 +0000
            Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-24 09:17 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 02:02 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:20 -0700
      Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-24 00:59 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 01:13 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 14:00 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-24 14:09 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 15:00 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 14:20 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 15:16 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 15:16 +0100
        Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-24 16:02 +0100
          Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 17:41 +0100
            Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 08:41 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 18:09 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 09:16 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 18:58 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-24 20:43 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 18:06 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 09:08 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 19:26 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-24 19:45 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 20:33 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-25 09:50 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 12:20 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Zink <michael@swamp.franken.de> - 2023-06-26 13:52 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-24 19:21 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 21:47 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-25 10:24 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-25 11:33 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 11:41 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-25 02:46 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 12:00 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-25 02:50 -0700
              Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-25 12:08 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-26 02:48 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-26 08:29 +0100
            Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 17:51 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:29 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2023-06-27 13:06 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-27 04:14 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:29 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2023-06-27 16:50 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-27 21:24 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2023-06-28 07:37 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-27 23:10 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2023-06-28 08:14 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-06-28 16:12 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-28 12:41 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-28 13:27 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-28 13:59 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-28 14:20 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-28 05:34 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-28 15:36 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-28 18:35 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-29 11:02 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-29 11:47 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-29 15:03 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-29 15:22 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Matthias Eißing <meissing@gmx.de> - 2023-06-29 15:44 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-29 06:54 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-29 07:01 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Heinz-Juergen Kronemeyer <meierdrei@protonmail.com> - 2023-06-30 12:15 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Achim Lesmeister <lesmeister.valid.2023-12@nurfuerspam.de> - 2023-06-29 15:48 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-29 16:46 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Achim Lesmeister <lesmeister.valid.2023-12@nurfuerspam.de> - 2023-06-29 19:08 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-29 18:11 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Achim Lesmeister <lesmeister.valid.2023-12@nurfuerspam.de> - 2023-06-29 19:20 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-29 23:17 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-29 20:14 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Achim Lesmeister <lesmeister.valid.2023-12@nurfuerspam.de> - 2023-06-29 20:50 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2023-06-28 12:45 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 03:51 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 05:01 +0000
      Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 07:20 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 05:26 +0000
        Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:17 -0700
        Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:33 -0700
        Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 10:54 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:35 -0700
      Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 15:24 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-30 00:07 -0700
      Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-24 20:59 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 05:23 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 06:49 +0100
    Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 07:12 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:22 -0700
    Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 05:16 +0000
      Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 07:32 +0100
        Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 05:37 +0000
          Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 08:01 +0100
            Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 06:37 +0000
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-23 23:46 -0700
              Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 08:55 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-24 00:16 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 00:20 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 00:23 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 14:00 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 08:06 -0700
              Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-24 11:22 +0100
      Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-24 09:36 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 00:56 -0700
        Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-24 01:11 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 01:14 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 08:31 +0000
            Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 01:37 -0700
              Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-24 13:43 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 07:54 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 10:14 +0000
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 03:18 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2023-06-24 10:35 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 10:07 +0000
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 07:57 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-24 01:46 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 11:03 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-24 10:57 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 15:36 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 15:54 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 16:14 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-24 16:05 +0100
              Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 18:49 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-25 21:03 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 14:18 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 15:37 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 17:06 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 16:58 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 18:10 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 18:16 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 18:56 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 20:10 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 07:55 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-24 16:07 +0100
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 08:10 -0700
    Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-24 11:19 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 03:18 -0700
        Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-24 04:07 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-24 04:11 -0700
            Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-24 04:19 -0700
              Re: wagner vs putin "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 14:25 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-06-24 20:35 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2023-06-24 20:38 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Walter Brill <WalterBrill@t-online.de> - 2023-06-24 22:10 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-24 22:22 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-24 20:45 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Mike Grantz <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-25 00:10 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-25 01:57 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 19:57 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-25 18:11 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-25 20:53 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 21:00 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 07:42 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 12:13 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-26 10:02 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 12:18 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-26 11:03 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 04:07 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 13:30 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-26 11:01 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 04:05 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 13:40 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-26 19:52 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-27 12:07 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-27 12:53 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-27 16:27 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-27 16:59 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-27 18:08 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-27 18:38 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-28 16:04 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-28 17:26 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-28 17:57 +0200
                Re: Religion ( was: wagner vs putin ) Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-29 02:15 +0200
                Re: Religion ( was: wagner vs putin ) Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-29 14:51 +0200
                Re: Religion ( was: wagner vs putin ) Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2023-06-29 20:35 +0200
                Re: Religion Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-30 06:50 +0200
                Re: Religion Ned Kelly <ned.kelly@nefkom.net> - 2023-06-30 08:38 +0100
                Re: Religion Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-30 00:05 -0700
                Re: Religion Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-30 00:09 -0700
                Re: Religion Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-30 00:22 -0700
                Re: Religion Hartmut Ott <hartmut@arcor.de> - 2023-06-30 13:37 +0200
                Re: Religion Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-30 05:49 -0700
                Re: Religion Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-30 06:00 -0700
                Re: Religion Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-30 16:08 +0200
                Re: Religion Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 16:14 +0200
                Re: Religion Hartmut Ott <hartmut@arcor.de> - 2023-07-01 14:35 +0200
                Re: Religion Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-07-01 05:52 -0700
                Re: Religion Hartmut Ott <hartmut@arcor.de> - 2023-07-02 14:23 +0200
                Re: Religion Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-30 20:11 +0200
                Re: Religion Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-30 21:54 +0200
                Re: Religion Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-30 23:49 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-28 07:51 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-28 16:11 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-28 16:31 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-28 18:51 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-28 19:31 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-28 19:58 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-29 14:56 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-29 13:27 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-29 18:19 +0200
                Re: Religion ( was: wagner vs putin) Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-30 07:01 +0200
                Re: Religion ( was: wagner vs putin) Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-30 20:22 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-30 12:24 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-30 20:28 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-07-01 06:49 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-07-02 00:05 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2023-07-01 08:07 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-27 16:36 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-25 06:05 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gerhard Hoffmann <dk4xp@arcor.de> - 2023-06-25 04:58 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter McD <peter.posts@gmx.net> - 2023-06-25 10:06 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 10:50 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 02:01 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 06:43 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 08:10 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2023-06-26 09:01 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 00:11 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 01:55 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-30 01:22 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Strauss <usenet-st@mail.mszet.de> - 2023-06-29 01:23 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-29 05:10 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 12:39 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 01:52 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-10 19:29 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-10 19:30 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 19:17 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 19:20 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 19:29 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 20:32 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 20:57 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 21:45 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-27 03:16 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-27 19:49 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-27 23:31 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-28 00:49 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-27 23:08 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Carlo XYZ <carloxyz@invalid.invalid> - 2023-06-28 14:40 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-27 23:07 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-01 13:01 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-07-01 04:25 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-01 13:43 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-07-01 13:39 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-07-01 04:47 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-07-01 14:39 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-07-11 00:09 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-07-11 10:03 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-07-11 10:57 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-07-11 12:23 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-07-11 13:09 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Gunter Kühne <kuehne-g@freenet.de> - 2023-07-11 13:23 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-07-11 14:02 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-07-11 14:09 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-07-11 14:36 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-07-11 15:17 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-11 06:26 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-07-11 07:02 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 19:25 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 23:29 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 09:04 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 01:59 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 11:29 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 19:19 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 19:32 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-26 17:34 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 19:39 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 19:54 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-26 20:19 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 20:59 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-26 21:12 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 21:33 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-26 21:31 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 21:59 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-26 22:08 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 22:22 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-26 22:53 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-27 00:05 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Dietz Proepper <dietz.usenet@rotfl.franken.de> - 2023-06-27 08:02 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 19:35 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 12:28 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 03:37 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2023-06-26 11:05 +0000
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 13:12 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 04:23 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 23:33 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 12:33 +0200
  Re: wagner vs putin Frank Hucklenbroich <hucklenbroich@gmx.net> - 2023-06-25 17:18 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 19:02 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 19:10 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2023-06-25 17:57 +0000
        Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-25 20:00 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 20:36 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-25 20:48 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 08:16 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 19:15 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-27 20:38 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-27 21:07 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-27 21:19 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-27 22:33 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-28 07:36 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-25 23:52 -0700
        Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 17:45 +0200
    Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 02:06 +0200
      Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 08:22 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin "Martin K." <MartinKobil@epost.de> - 2023-06-26 01:44 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Martin Ebert <mx300@gmx.net> - 2023-06-26 19:21 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 13:59 +0200
          Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 05:14 -0700
          Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 14:58 +0200
            Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 16:06 +0200
              Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 15:33 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 17:15 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 17:05 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 18:22 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 19:06 +0100
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 20:16 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 17:26 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 17:34 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Hermann Riemann <nospam.ng@hermann-riemann.de> - 2023-06-26 17:41 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 17:55 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@live.de> - 2023-06-26 18:09 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2023-06-26 18:51 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 19:19 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Peter Veith <veith@snafu.de> - 2023-06-26 19:21 +0200
                Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 23:25 -0700
                Re: wagner vs putin Goetz Schultz <ng.expire1225@goetz.co.uk> - 2023-06-26 19:09 +0100
              Re: wagner vs putin Ulf Kutzner <Ulf.Kutzner@web.de> - 2023-06-26 23:21 -0700
      Re: wagner vs putin Fidel Sebastián Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse_Lara@b.maus.de> - 2023-06-26 13:05 +0200
        Re: wagner vs putin Wilhelm Ernst <newstrap@t-online.de> - 2023-06-28 18:44 +0200

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