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| From | John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | demon.ip.support.turnpike |
| Subject | Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] |
| Date | 2026-04-11 10:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n3uinsFtm9sU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 10/04/2026 23:15, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/4/10 20:25:2, John Hall wrote:
<snip>
>>
>> Well I managed to find a helpful old dist post that pointed me to a site
>> where I could download a utility called serv7753.eze which, when
>> running, fools TP into thinking it's appropriately licensed. I've
In case it's useful to anyone, the place where you can find
serv7753.exe, as well as self-installing .exes for TP v5 and v6, is:
https://www.plainfaqs.org.uk/downloads/
It also has Ian Jackson's notes on moving from TP to TB.
>
> Yes, that was it: the Demon-only version had hard-coded into it the name
> of a server at Demon; it interrogated that server, and if it didn't get
> the right response, wouldn't proceed. Fortunately the hard-coding was of
> its name not its IP address, so by adding a line to one's hosts file,
> one could make it look elsewhere. At first, some very kind person set up
> a server to do this job for all the Demon-only TP users (even if they
> were still with Demon, Demon - or one of its descendants - turned off
> the server in question); subsequently, someone coded something - I think
> it's what you've got - that simulated that server locally. Though I
> think you still had to add a line to your hosts file, pointing inwards
> as it were.
I didn't have to do that.
>
> An alternative would be to get hold of a (version 5 _or_ 6) from someone
> who _did_ pay for it (but ideally was no longer using it; the antipiracy
> mechanism was just that two users with the same licence couldn't email
> each other, IIRR).
I did indeed have a paid-for version of both v5 and v6, having
originally bought TP before Demon acquired the company and made TP free
for their users. I don't suppose the licensing info could be copied from
my v6 into v5, though, and I think all I have left of my original v5 is
the v5.01 self-installing .exe. It's possible that if I nuked my
installation from the v5.02 .exe that Brian kindly supplied me with, and
installed from my preserved v5.01 .exe, that I might find that it's
licenced and no longer needs the work-around, but I'm not sure if it's
worth the effort.
>
>> managed to get it to connect and to download news, and have successfully
>> installed a few groups, including this one. If this post appears, then I
>> can post with it too. The newsgroup UI isn't as nice as I remember v6's
>> being, so I'm not yes sure if I shall continue with the experiment.
>
> Well, for v6 it was very close to file explorer, whereas v5 (and
> previous) had its own UI. (It was the integration with Explorer that
> killed 6, really - I mean for future movement; it probably seemed an
> excellent idea at the time.)
Indeed. It seems that Richard Clayton might have had an inkling that
closely linking TP to a piece of Microsoft software had the potential to
end in tears, though, as he stuck with v5. (He was no longer part of the
TP development team by then, of course.) I often think ruefully that, if
only Demon had carried on supporting TP for another year or so, then
we'd probably have got an update that would have enabled it to work
under 64-bit Windows.
--
John Hall
You can divide people into two categories:
those who divide people into two categories and those who don't
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Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-18 11:40 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] Martin Liddle <news15@tynecomp.co.uk> - 2025-06-19 12:30 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-19 17:51 +0100
Re: Ping � [tumbleweed �] John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-06-19 19:15 +0100
Re: Ping � [tumbleweed �] John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-06-19 19:23 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-19 20:14 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> - 2025-06-20 10:27 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-20 14:21 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> - 2025-06-20 17:29 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> - 2025-06-23 10:58 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-23 15:04 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-08 22:49 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-09 09:37 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-09 17:43 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-09 18:06 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-09 18:38 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-09 19:00 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 10:58 +0100
Re: Re: Ping � [tumbleweed �] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 15:29 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 16:32 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 17:12 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 18:15 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 19:25 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-10 20:25 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-10 23:15 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-11 10:31 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-11 11:35 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-11 09:49 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-11 10:33 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-12 11:01 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-12 17:10 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-12 18:10 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-12 18:28 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-12 19:04 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-12 22:53 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-13 10:26 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-13 16:36 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-13 19:56 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-13 23:20 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-14 10:16 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-14 10:34 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-13 23:13 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] Graeme <News@nospam.demon.co.uk> - 2026-04-13 16:30 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-04-13 23:07 +0100
Re: Ping [tumbleweed ] John Hall <john@jhall.co.uk> - 2026-04-14 10:21 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2025-06-23 15:19 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-23 15:30 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2025-06-25 15:07 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-06-25 18:21 +0100
Re: Ping … [tumbleweed …] Laurence Taylor <laurence@nospam.plus.com> - 2025-06-26 17:16 +0100
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