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  HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 11:27 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Peter Campbell-Banks <risc-os@talktalk.net> - 2016-02-16 11:57 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:19 +0100
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2016-02-16 14:43 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2016-02-16 14:46 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 14:18 +0000
    HDMI switch - recommendations? nospam.Richard.Menedetter@f31.n310.z2.binkp.net (Richard Menedetter) - 2016-02-16 13:38 +1200
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-16 12:37 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Alister <Alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-16 13:01 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:20 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-02-18 00:09 +1100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-17 09:27 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-19 19:40 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Alan Larsson <abuse@alstown.com> - 2016-02-19 22:46 -0500
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-20 10:05 +0000
              Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-20 10:56 +0000
              Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-20 15:11 +0000
                Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-21 19:51 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-20 15:00 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-02-20 09:05 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-20 10:03 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:12 +0100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? cl@isbd.net - 2016-02-16 14:29 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 16:47 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? cl@isbd.net - 2016-02-16 17:51 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-16 18:59 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 20:18 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-02-16 14:01 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-16 09:20 -0500
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Julius Kavay <kavay@gmx.net.is.not.invalid> - 2016-02-16 16:14 +0100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 16:52 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2016-02-17 17:03 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? "M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se> - 2016-02-20 20:22 +0100

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#10619 — HDMI switch - recommendations?

Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.

Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a 
recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
monitor)?

Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
mouse between systems?

Cheers

Dave R


-- 
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#10620

In message <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>
          David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:

> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.

> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
> monitor)?

> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
> mouse between systems?

> Cheers

> Dave R


I am using a Lindy HDMI KVM Switch Classic,  USB 2.0  with Audio,     
4 port.
This comes with all cables and a remote to switch between systems.
Purchased from CJE Micros, Quick Code - 19302


-- 
Peter Campbell-Banks,
Ramsgate.
mailto: risc-os@talktalk.net

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#10625

In article <ef1ccb5255.Peter@talktalk.net>,
Peter Campbell-Banks  <risc-os@talktalk.net> wrote:
>In message <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>
>          David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
>
>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>
>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
>> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
>> monitor)?
>
>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
>> mouse between systems?
>
>> Cheers
>
>> Dave R
>
>
>I am using a Lindy HDMI KVM Switch Classic,  USB 2.0  with Audio,     
>4 port.
>This comes with all cables and a remote to switch between systems.
>Purchased from CJE Micros, Quick Code - 19302

Excellent. Now, if they have 8 and 16 ports ones that would be smashing.

-- mrr

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#10630

On 2016-02-16, Morten Reistad <first@last.name> wrote:
>>
>>I am using a Lindy HDMI KVM Switch Classic,  USB 2.0  with Audio,     
>>4 port.
>>This comes with all cables and a remote to switch between systems.
>>Purchased from CJE Micros, Quick Code - 19302
>
> Excellent. Now, if they have 8 and 16 ports ones that would be smashing.

http://www.networktechinc.com/servswt.html

Pricing is a bit enterprisey for the home user but their other
products I've tried have been first rate stuff.

-- 
Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

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#10631

On 2016-02-16, Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:

Sorry, wrong link, should have been 

http://www.networktechinc.com/srvsw-usb-dvi.html

> Pricing is a bit enterprisey for the home user but their other
> products I've tried have been first rate stuff.

-- 
Andrew Smallshaw
andrews@sdf.lonestar.org

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#10627

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:57:10 +0000, Peter Campbell-Banks wrote:

> In message <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>
>           David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> 
>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
> 
>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
>> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
>> (to TV/
>> monitor)?
> 
>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
> 
>> Cheers
> 
>> Dave R
> 
> 
> I am using a Lindy HDMI KVM Switch Classic,  USB 2.0  with Audio, 4
> port.
> This comes with all cables and a remote to switch between systems.
> Purchased from CJE Micros, Quick Code - 19302

The two port one is "Ouch!" £60 UKP on amazon.co.uk

4 port one is £90 UKP.

HDMI switching only is very cheap in comparison.

I am assuming that KVM is Keyboard Video Mouse - I think I may just need a 
USB switch.

So:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Printer-Switch-Selector-Adapter-Connnector/dp/
B00GWF3LNK/ref=cm_wl_huc_item

for a 4 port USB switch (comments say it is used for switching between 
PCs).

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0136NHLEA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?
_encoding=UTF8&colid=1UOETQ9CU282F&coliid=I1MLCR87MF66JV&psc=1

for a 5 port HDMI switch.

Total  £8.35 UKP + £13.99 UKP = £22.24 UKP.

That looks quite reasonable.

Cheers

Dave R

-- 
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

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#10621

Hi David!

16 Feb 2016 11:27, from David -> All:

 Da> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
 Da> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
 Da> (to TV/ monitor)?

I have one of these mega cheap ones.
http://www.dx.com/p/mini-4-port-1080p-hdmi-switch-3-in-1-out-113720

It has problems when the devices do not provide enough power to power it.
Sadly I do not have a RPi connected to it, so I cannot comment on how good it 
works with a RPi.

On the other hand, for under 5 USD including shipping, it is maybe worth 
trying.

 Da> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
 Da> keyboard/ mouse between systems?

I only know them combined with VGA as KVM switches.
(Keyboard/Video/Mouse)

CU, Ricsi

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#10622

In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>, David
<wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.

> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
> (to TV/ monitor)?

I was pondering this last week (for my telly) and research led me to this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0136NHLEA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00

I know it has five inputs but I wanted only three, or so I thought. What
about tomorrow though?

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#10623

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 +0000, David wrote:

> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
> 
> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to
> TV/
> monitor)?
> 
> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Dave R

have you considered running 2 of them headless @ connecting to them via 
ssh?
(the practicality of this does depend on how they are being used of-
course_



-- 
Love is sentimental measles.

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#10653

On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:01:24 +0000, Alister wrote:

> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 +0000, David wrote:
> 
>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>> 
> have you considered running 2 of them headless @ connecting to them via
> ssh?
> (the practicality of this does depend on how they are being used of-
> course_
>
Agreed. Presumably you already have a mouse/keyboard/monitor and they are 
attached to the computer that you used to write the post I'm replying to, 
and that its attached to your LAN. If so, there's no reason you can't 
talk to your RPIs by using its kbd/mouse/screen once you've connected 
them to your LAN.

Use Cat 5 cable and a hub if they're model B RPIs (most ADSL routers have 
at least one RJ45 ethernet socket), or via USB wifi dongles if your LAN 
is wireless. Since most ADSL modems have a DHCP server built in and model 
B RPIs can connect to a DHCP server straight out of the box, all you need 
to do if you're using model Bs is to set up your router to recognise the 
RPIs, and assign an IP address and hostname to each.

If you're running Linux on your main computer, it already has all the 
software it needs: you can just use SSH to login to an RPi and start 
using it. If you configure SSH for X11 forwarding, then running a 
graphical program on the RPi will cause it to display on your computer's 
screen and accept input from your keyboard and mouse.

If you're running Windows, you'll need to download and install PuTTY, 
which is a package that provides ssh terminal and file transfer 
facilities for Windows. If you want a graphical desktop, you'll also need 
a Windows X-term server. They're around and free to download. 
Try Cygwin/X,  XWinLogon or VcXsrv.


-- 
martin@   | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org       |

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#10665

Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:01:24 +0000, Alister wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 +0000, David wrote:
>> 
>>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>> 
>> have you considered running 2 of them headless @ connecting to them via
>> ssh?
>> (the practicality of this does depend on how they are being used of-
>> course_
>>
>Agreed. Presumably you already have a mouse/keyboard/monitor and they are 
>attached to the computer that you used to write the post I'm replying to, 
>and that its attached to your LAN. If so, there's no reason you can't 
>talk to your RPIs by using its kbd/mouse/screen once you've connected 
>them to your LAN.
>
>Use Cat 5 cable and a hub if they're model B RPIs (most ADSL routers have 
>at least one RJ45 ethernet socket), or via USB wifi dongles if your LAN 
>is wireless. Since most ADSL modems have a DHCP server built in and model 
>B RPIs can connect to a DHCP server straight out of the box, all you need 
>to do if you're using model Bs is to set up your router to recognise the 
>RPIs, and assign an IP address and hostname to each.
>
>If you're running Linux on your main computer, it already has all the 
>software it needs: you can just use SSH to login to an RPi and start 
>using it. If you configure SSH for X11 forwarding, then running a 
>graphical program on the RPi will cause it to display on your computer's 
>screen and accept input from your keyboard and mouse.
>
>If you're running Windows, you'll need to download and install PuTTY, 
>which is a package that provides ssh terminal and file transfer 
>facilities for Windows. If you want a graphical desktop, you'll also need 
>a Windows X-term server. They're around and free to download. 
>Try Cygwin/X,  XWinLogon or VcXsrv.

Just an additional note for those who wish to use an MS Windows
machine as the remote desktop. If you install xrdp on your RPIs you
can use Microsoft's standard remote desktop application to talk to
them.

"sudo apt-get install xrdp" on the pi is all that is needed although,
as you suggest, installing PuTTY on the Windows machine will avoid the
need for ever plugging in a mouse, keyboard or monitor to your pi.

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#10663

On 16/02/16 13:01, Alister wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 +0000, David wrote:
>
>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>
>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
>> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to
>> TV/
>> monitor)?
>>
>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Dave R
>
> have you considered running 2 of them headless @ connecting to them via
> ssh?
> (the practicality of this does depend on how they are being used of-
> course_
>
>
>
Or use vnc.

My (sole) rpi runs a vnc server at startup, and all access is from a 
client on my (linux) desktop. A bit sluggish, but very usable.

-- 
Mike Scott (unet2 <at> [deletethis] scottsonline.org.uk)
Harlow Essex England

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#10710

On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 09:27:19 +0000, Mike Scott wrote:

> On 16/02/16 13:01, Alister wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 +0000, David wrote:
>>
>>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>>
>>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
>>> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
>>> (to TV/
>>> monitor)?
>>>
>>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>>> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Dave R
>>
>> have you considered running 2 of them headless @ connecting to them via
>> ssh?
>> (the practicality of this does depend on how they are being used of-
>> course_
>>
>>
>>
> Or use vnc.
> 
> My (sole) rpi runs a vnc server at startup, and all access is from a
> client on my (linux) desktop. A bit sluggish, but very usable.

I did install TightVNC on a Pi B, and could manage it from Windows using 
TightVNC Viewer.

However I couldn't get it to close down properly, or reboot, using TightVNC 
from Windows.

Also, I would like to be able to drive my 3 Pis directly when the need 
arises.

One is more or less dedicated as a VPN server so I don't want to mess 
about with it too much.

Oh, and TightVNC seems to work fine with Windows systems, and can be very 
useful if I'm too idle to navigate stairs. Haven't pranked other users by 
moving their mouse pointer yet, though.

Cheers


Dave R



-- 
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

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#10715

On 2/19/2016 2:40 PM, David wrote:

>>>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>>>
>>>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
>>>> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
>>>> (to TV/
>>>> monitor)?
>>>>
>>>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>>>> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Dave R



This would be my recommendation, do it all at once.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN


ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work

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#10719

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:46:48 -0500, Alan Larsson wrote:

> On 2/19/2016 2:40 PM, David wrote:
> 
>>>>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone
>>>>> have a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and
>>>>> 1 out (to TV/
>>>>> monitor)?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>>>>> keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave R
> 
> 
> 
> This would be my recommendation, do it all at once.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-
Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN
> 
> 
> ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work

A bit costly for the UK though.

It might also hit import duty (not sure what the limit is).

Cheers

Dave R

-- 
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

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#10720

In article <diqs41Fcc7bU2@mid.individual.net>, David
<wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:

[Snip]

> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-
> Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN
> > 
> > 
> > ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work

> A bit costly for the UK though.

By the time carriage, VAT, duty, & handling were added, two $80 items
from LA cost me £160.

> It might also hit import duty (not sure what the limit is).

Section 2.3 of

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users/notice-143-a-guide-for-international-post-users

Mustn't also forget the handling charge for the carrier collecting the
VAT and/or duty. This varies from nothing, to £6, or even £13 IME with
different carriers.

Sometimes we hope that goods sent to us are (mis-)declared as a gift
(2.4) but be aware that the lies sellers put on customs declarations are
the responsibility of the consignee.

T

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#10731

On 20 Feb 2016 10:05:53 GMT
David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:

> > This would be my recommendation, do it all at once.
> > 
> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-
> Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN
> > 
> > 
> > ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work
> 
> A bit costly for the UK though.
> 
> It might also hit import duty (not sure what the limit is).
> 
It used to be around UKP17 IIRC, but ISTR it's going to change.

Here's one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371213393799 with no tax/duty
uncertainties.

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#10741

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 15:11:26 +0000, Rob Morley wrote:

> On 20 Feb 2016 10:05:53 GMT David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> 
>> > This would be my recommendation, do it all at once.
>> > 
>> > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-
>> Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN
>> > 
>> > 
>> > ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work
>> 
>> A bit costly for the UK though.
>> 
>> It might also hit import duty (not sure what the limit is).
>> 
> It used to be around UKP17 IIRC, but ISTR it's going to change.
> 
> Here's one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371213393799 with no tax/duty
> uncertainties.

Thanks - still far more expensive than a USB switch and an HDMI switch as 
two separate units.

As posted upstream I can cobble together a solution for £22.24 which is a 
lot less than £75.

Cheers

Dave R

-- 
Windows 8.1 on PCSpecialist box

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#10729

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 22:46:48 -0500
Alan Larsson <abuse@alstown.com> wrote:

> This would be my recommendation, do it all at once.
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bytecc-KVM-4UHM-4X1-USB-HDMI-KVM-Switch-/251941213985?hash=item3aa8ddd721:g:~LYAAOSwNSxVQnRN
> 
> 
> ebay item 251941213985 if the link does not work
> 
You mean http://www.ebay.com/itm/251941213985 ?

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#10717

On 19/02/2016 19:40, David wrote:
> I did install TightVNC on a Pi B, and could manage it from Windows using
> TightVNC Viewer.
>
> However I couldn't get it to close down properly, or reboot, using TightVNC
> from Windows.

Do you mean from the desktop? Its a permission thing, I had the same 
with x11vnc under Wheezy, but not Jessie. A workaround is to do a 
shutdown or reboot from a terminal window.

---druck

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