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HDMI switch - recommendations?

Started byDavid <wibble@btintenet.com>
First post2016-02-16 11:27 +0000
Last post2016-02-20 20:22 +0100
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  HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 11:27 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Peter Campbell-Banks <risc-os@talktalk.net> - 2016-02-16 11:57 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:19 +0100
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2016-02-16 14:43 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Andrew Smallshaw <andrews@sdf.lonestar.org> - 2016-02-16 14:46 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 14:18 +0000
    HDMI switch - recommendations? nospam.Richard.Menedetter@f31.n310.z2.binkp.net (Richard Menedetter) - 2016-02-16 13:38 +1200
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-16 12:37 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Alister <Alister.ware@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-16 13:01 +0000
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:20 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-02-18 00:09 +1100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> - 2016-02-17 09:27 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-19 19:40 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Alan Larsson <abuse@alstown.com> - 2016-02-19 22:46 -0500
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-20 10:05 +0000
              Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-20 10:56 +0000
              Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-20 15:11 +0000
                Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-21 19:51 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-02-20 15:00 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2016-02-20 09:05 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-20 10:03 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:12 +0100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? cl@isbd.net - 2016-02-16 14:29 +0000
        Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 16:47 +0000
          Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? cl@isbd.net - 2016-02-16 17:51 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> - 2016-02-16 18:59 +0000
            Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 20:18 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Dave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2016-02-16 14:01 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-02-16 09:20 -0500
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Julius Kavay <kavay@gmx.net.is.not.invalid> - 2016-02-16 16:14 +0100
      Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? David <wibble@btintenet.com> - 2016-02-16 16:52 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? Bryn Evans <d@a.invalid> - 2016-02-17 17:03 +0000
    Re: HDMI switch - recommendations? "M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se> - 2016-02-20 20:22 +0100

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#10718

FromDavid <wibble@btintenet.com>
Date2016-02-20 10:03 +0000
Message-ID<diqrvgFcc7bU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#10717
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 09:05:49 +0000, druck wrote:

> On 19/02/2016 19:40, David wrote:
>> I did install TightVNC on a Pi B, and could manage it from Windows
>> using TightVNC Viewer.
>>
>> However I couldn't get it to close down properly, or reboot, using
>> TightVNC from Windows.
> 
> Do you mean from the desktop? Its a permission thing, I had the same
> with x11vnc under Wheezy, but not Jessie. A workaround is to do a
> shutdown or reboot from a terminal window.
> 
> ---druck

Yes, I Think it was from the desktop, but it is a while back.

Thanks - I will give that a try.

Cheers

Dave R

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#10624

FromMorten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Date2016-02-16 13:12 +0100
Message-ID<qagbpc-bcp.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>
In reply to#10619
In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>,
David  <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
>Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>
>Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a 
>recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
>monitor)?
>
>Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
>mouse between systems?

Google for KVM. 

There are reasonably priced systems for switching VGA+USB, but the dvi ones
are more expensive, and HDMI are scarce, so far.

If anyone finds a reasonably priced 4-8 port HDMI+USB KVM; preferrably one
that can switch by keypress; post it here.

-- mrr

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#10629

Fromcl@isbd.net
Date2016-02-16 14:29 +0000
Message-ID<iaobpc-vse.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu>
In reply to#10624
Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>,
> David  <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> >Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
> >
> >Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a 
> >recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
> >monitor)?
> >
> >Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
> >mouse between systems?
> 
> Google for KVM. 
> 
I'd go for a wireless keyboard/mouse and multiple senders, more
reliable than switches in my experience.

-- 
Chris Green
·

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#10633

FromDavid <wibble@btintenet.com>
Date2016-02-16 16:47 +0000
Message-ID<dih24eFoafrU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#10629
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:29:06 +0000, cl wrote:

> Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>,
>> David  <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
>> >Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>> >
>> >Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
>> >a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
>> >(to TV/
>> >monitor)?
>> >
>> >Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>> >keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>> 
>> Google for KVM.
>> 
> I'd go for a wireless keyboard/mouse and multiple senders, more reliable
> than switches in my experience.

Not sure what you are describing.

The wireless keyboard/mouse combinations I have are linked to one specific 
USB receiver.

How do you switch between systems?



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#10641

Fromcl@isbd.net
Date2016-02-16 17:51 +0000
Message-ID<g54cpc-4ch.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu>
In reply to#10633
David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:29:06 +0000, cl wrote:
> 
> > Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> >> In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>,
> >> David  <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> >> >Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
> >> >
> >> >Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
> >> >a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
> >> >(to TV/
> >> >monitor)?
> >> >
> >> >Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
> >> >keyboard/ mouse between systems?
> >> 
> >> Google for KVM.
> >> 
> > I'd go for a wireless keyboard/mouse and multiple senders, more reliable
> > than switches in my experience.
> 
> Not sure what you are describing.
> 
> The wireless keyboard/mouse combinations I have are linked to one specific 
> USB receiver.
> 
> How do you switch between systems?

Logitech 'Unifying' receiver can connect to any keyboard/mouse in the
vicinity.

-- 
Chris Green
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#10645

FromTim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
Date2016-02-16 18:59 +0000
Message-ID<5552f1d282tim@invalid.org.uk>
In reply to#10641
In article <g54cpc-4ch.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu>, <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:29:06 +0000, cl wrote:
> > 
> > > Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> > >> In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>, David 
> > >> <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
> > >> >Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
> > >> >
> > >> >Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone
> > >> >have a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in
> > >> >and 1 out (to TV/ monitor)?
> > >> >
> > >> >Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
> > >> >keyboard/ mouse between systems?

[Snip]

> Logitech 'Unifying' receiver can connect to any keyboard/mouse in the
> vicinity.

A Logitech Unifying Receiver allows many *Logitech* mice/keyboards to
attach to a single USB wireless dongle. The OP wishes to connect one
mouse/keyboard/screen combo to many computers. 

Would Logitech's dongle work through a printer USB switch?

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#10649

FromDavid <wibble@btintenet.com>
Date2016-02-16 20:18 +0000
Message-ID<diheghFoafrU8@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#10641
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 17:51:12 +0000, cl wrote:

> David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 14:29:06 +0000, cl wrote:
>> 
>> > Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
>> >> In article <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>,
>> >> David  <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:
>> >> >Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>> >> >
>> >> >Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone
>> >> >have a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in
>> >> >and 1 out (to TV/
>> >> >monitor)?
>> >> >
>> >> >Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip
>> >> >keyboard/ mouse between systems?
>> >> 
>> >> Google for KVM.
>> >> 
>> > I'd go for a wireless keyboard/mouse and multiple senders, more
>> > reliable than switches in my experience.
>> 
>> Not sure what you are describing.
>> 
>> The wireless keyboard/mouse combinations I have are linked to one
>> specific USB receiver.
>> 
>> How do you switch between systems?
> 
> Logitech 'Unifying' receiver can connect to any keyboard/mouse in the
> vicinity.

Yes, I know.

However it has to be paired specifically with one keyboard/mouse because 
otherwise every PC in the house would be responding to every mouse/
keyboard in the house.

I have paired a mouse and keyboard to a single receiver and you need to 
use Logitech software and go through a pairing routine to confirm which 
devices should connect to the receiver.

This is not a slick process for switching between machines.

I would expect to be able to have a USB switch with a Logitech receiver 
plugged in, and switch this between machines to allow the mouse/keyboard 
to switch also.

I'm afraid your suggestion does not appear to be logical without further 
explanation.

Cheers

Dave R





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#10626

FromDave Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk>
Date2016-02-16 14:01 +0000
Message-ID<6b7fd65255.DaveMeUK@my.inbox.com>
In reply to#10619
In message <digfcbFlu7sU3@mid.individual.net>
          David <wibble@btintenet.com> wrote:

>Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>
>Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a 
>recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
>monitor)?
>
>Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
>mouse between systems?

There are lots of cheap HDMI switches for 3 or 5 inputs - search on
eBay.  But the cost of something to switch USB too costs many times
as much, oddly.

Dave

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#10628

FromDennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Date2016-02-16 09:20 -0500
Message-ID<nrb6cbltr423mc0ckr35n1hl1ufhhb3btl@4ax.com>
In reply to#10619
On 16 Feb 2016 11:27:07 GMT, David <wibble@btintenet.com> declaimed the
following:

>Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a 
>recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
>monitor)?
>
	It's called a home entertainment system <G> (Most surround sound amps
these days will have three or more HDMI inputs and switch them to the TV...
Assuming the TV doesn't have two or more already).

	Granted -- a $600 sound system and/or $800 large screen TV is likely
out of the price range for running a slew of R-Pis.
-- 
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    wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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#10632

FromJulius Kavay <kavay@gmx.net.is.not.invalid>
Date2016-02-16 16:14 +0100
Message-ID<digsn6Fpqt8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#10619
Hello,

On 16.02.2016 12:27, David wrote:
> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>
> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
> monitor)?

with some pocket money... ;-)

http://www.startech.com/uk/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/4-Port-StarView-DVI-USB-KVM-Switch-With-Audio~SV431DVIUAGB

and with extra  4pcs HDMI-to-DVI

for two Pis only:

http://www.startech.com/uk/Search?search_term=kvm+hdmi&fq_field_kvm_ports=2

Regards
Julius

PS: I use this one and I'm happy
http://www.startech.com/uk/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/4-Port-DVI-VGA-Dual-Monitor-USB-KVM-Switch-with-Audio-USB-20-Hub~SV431DDVDUA

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#10636

FromDavid <wibble@btintenet.com>
Date2016-02-16 16:52 +0000
Message-ID<dih2f1FoafrU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#10632
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 16:14:27 +0100, Julius Kavay wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> On 16.02.2016 12:27, David wrote:
>> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>>
>> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have
>> a recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out
>> (to TV/
>> monitor)?
> 
> with some pocket money... ;-)
> 
> http://www.startech.com/uk/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/4-Port-
StarView-DVI-USB-KVM-Switch-With-Audio~SV431DVIUAGB
> 
> and with extra  4pcs HDMI-to-DVI
> 
> for two Pis only:
> 
> http://www.startech.com/uk/Search?search_term=kvm
+hdmi&fq_field_kvm_ports=2
> 
> Regards Julius
> 
> PS: I use this one and I'm happy
> http://www.startech.com/uk/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/4-Port-DVI-VGA-
Dual-Monitor-USB-KVM-Switch-with-Audio-USB-20-Hub~SV431DDVDUA

Thanks - the extra 1 or 2 in front of the price kinda rules it out for a 
Pi setup - although it looks good if you have a rack of expensive PCs.

Cheap and cheerful is part of the requirement.

Cheers


Dave R


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#10671

FromBryn Evans <d@a.invalid>
Date2016-02-17 17:03 +0000
Message-ID<Pi34026b5355.Bryn@yo.rk>
In reply to#10619
In a mad moment - David  mumbled :

> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.

Back to the original request -

E-Bay, Item No. (without spaces) 3611 8415 8363
Sold by, UK-stars, Seller No. (180250)
Free Delivery from UK stock  £3.89

This is a 3 to 1 auto or manual HDMI switch
I have had one since last June, and it works very well
with Raspberry Pi 1B and Pi Zero and a Tablet.

Will also work with Asus EEEPc (Linux) or RiscPc,
through a separate VGA to HDMI adaptor (MINI VGA2HDMI)

There is a tail output lead to fit the monitor or TV HDMI socket

You will need to find 3 HDMI leads to fit and reach your sources.

  Hope this is of use to you.

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#10737

From"M.O.B. i L." <mobil@orbin.se>
Date2016-02-20 20:22 +0100
Message-ID<naae7t$3n4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#10619
Den 2016-02-16 kl. 12:27, skrev David:
> Musing on the fact that I have 3 * Pi but not 3 * spare monitors.
>
> Leaving aside the need to switch keyboard (and mouse) does anyone have a
> recommendation for an HDMI switch with, for example, 3 in and 1 out (to TV/
> monitor)?
>
> Hmm...having raised the question, are there USB switches to flip keyboard/
> mouse between systems?

Many have recommended HDMI-switches. One way to switch keyboard and 
mouse to the active screen is to use x2x (already installed in Raspbian 
Jessie, see man x2x). I have some examples on:
https://github.com/mobluse/x2x -- X2x Tools using Raspbian on Raspberry Pi
(If you think this repository is useful, please help by adding a star.)

It might be possible to configure x2x so that the inactive computer's 
HDMI is shut off and then the HDMI-switch would automatically show the 
active computer's HDMI-output. I don't know how to do this.

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