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keeping files on an external drive

Started byJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
First post2018-11-08 08:44 -0500
Last post2018-11-09 17:12 +0000
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  keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 08:44 -0500
    Re: keeping files on an external drive Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-08 09:13 -0500
      Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 09:47 -0500
        Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 09:57 -0400
        Re: keeping files on an external drive Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-08 10:29 -0500
          Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
    Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 09:49 -0400
    Re: keeping files on an external drive Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-11-08 14:52 +0000
      Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 16:09 +0000
      Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 12:02 -0500
        Re: keeping files on an external drive Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-11-08 17:31 +0000
        Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 08:03 +1300
          Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
      Re: keeping files on an external drive "J.Albert" <j.albert@nowhere.net> - 2018-11-09 22:29 -0500
    Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 16:08 +0000
      Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 12:27 -0500
        Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 12:44 -0500
          Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 23:38 +0000
            Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-12 02:30 -0500
              Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-12 21:57 +1300
                Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-12 22:14 +1300
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 12:55 +0000
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-13 19:52 +1300
                Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 12:51 +0000
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-13 19:52 +1300
                Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-12 12:19 -0500
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 12:31 -0500
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 22:41 +0000
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-13 15:10 -0500
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-13 12:24 -0800
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-13 17:11 -0500
                          Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-13 15:02 -0800
                            Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-14 00:41 -0500
                              Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-15 11:26 -0800
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-14 13:34 +1300
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-14 15:42 -0500
                          Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-15 12:04 +1300
                            Re: keeping files on an external drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-15 00:52 -0500
                              Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-15 22:24 +1300
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-14 04:57 +0000
          Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-08 21:17 -0600
            Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 18:29 +1300
              Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-09 02:24 -0500
                Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 09:37 +1300
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-09 16:26 -0600
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 22:57 +0000
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:55 +1300
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-10 00:21 -0500
              Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-09 16:28 -0600
                Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:58 +1300
                Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 01:20 +0000
                  Re: keeping files on an external drive Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-09 21:33 -0800
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-10 18:52 +1300
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 19:08 +1300
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-11 11:20 +1300
                          Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 17:49 +1300
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 19:07 +1300
                    Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 08:38 -0500
                      Re: keeping files on an external drive Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-10 08:41 -0800
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-10 14:35 -0500
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 10:02 +1300
                        Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-11 07:22 +0000
        Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 20:25 +0000
      Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 23:24 +0000
        Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 15:14 +0000
          Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 15:30 +0000
            Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 17:12 +0000

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#119251 — keeping files on an external drive

FromJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-08 08:44 -0500
Subjectkeeping files on an external drive
Message-ID<ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>
Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.

Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
Classic?

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#119256

FromWade Garrett <wade@cooler.net>
Date2018-11-08 09:13 -0500
Message-ID<ps1gac$2jc$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#119251
On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote:
> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
> that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.
> 
> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
> Classic?

I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 port 
on my iMac. Works fine.

A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD 
with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access 
it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely 
noticeable.

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#119260

FromJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-08 09:47 -0500
Message-ID<ps1i97$2u1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119256
On 11/8/18 9:13 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
> On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote:
>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point 
>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very 
>> quick.
>>
>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as 
>> in Classic?
> 
> I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 port 
> on my iMac. Works fine.
> 
> A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD 
> with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access 
> it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely 
> noticeable.

Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your 
music and photos?

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#119264

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 09:57 -0400
Message-ID<081120180957305174%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119260
In article <ps1i97$2u1$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
wrote:

> > A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD 
> > with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access 
> > it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely 
> > noticeable.
> 
> Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your 
> music and photos?

of course. 

you can also encrypt the drive if you don't want that to happen, at
least without you being involved.

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#119265

FromWade Garrett <wade@cooler.net>
Date2018-11-08 10:29 -0500
Message-ID<ps1kpk$ptf$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#119260
On 11/8/18 9:47 AM, J Burns wrote:
> On 11/8/18 9:13 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
>> On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote:
>>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point 
>>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very 
>>> quick.
>>>
>>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as 
>>> in Classic?
>>
>> I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 
>> port on my iMac. Works fine.
>>
>> A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD 
>> with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access 
>> it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is 
>> barely noticeable.
> 
> Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your 
> music and photos?

The disk isn't encrypted, so yes- though most of the music is in my 
iTunes library. Don't know it that is accessible.

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#119271

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
Message-ID<081120181049111246%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119265
In article <ps1kpk$ptf$1@news.albasani.net>, Wade Garrett
<wade@cooler.net> wrote:

> > 
> > Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your 
> > music and photos?
> 
> The disk isn't encrypted, so yes- though most of the music is in my 
> iTunes library. Don't know it that is accessible.

it is, either directly or via itunes.

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#119262

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 09:49 -0400
Message-ID<081120180949417037%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119251
In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
> that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.
> 
> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
> Classic?

of course. put them anywhere you want.

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#119263

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2018-11-08 14:52 +0000
Message-ID<081120181452071967%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#119251
In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
wrote:

>Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
>that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.
>
>Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
>Classic?

I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.

-- 
"The EU Customs Union is a racket that defends producers in rich countries
against producers in poor countries."

Jacob Rees-Mogg MP

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#119273

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2018-11-08 16:09 +0000
Message-ID<g4j5dsFlb7aU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119263
On 2018-11-08, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
>>that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.
>>
>>Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>>user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
>>Classic?
>
> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.

I keep all of my personal files in my user folder (mostly organized in
subordinate folders to the Documents folder). I see no reason to change
that.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#119276

FromJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-08 12:02 -0500
Message-ID<ps1q6v$ma5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119263
On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point 
>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very 
>> quick.
>>
>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as 
>> in Classic?
> 
> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.
> 
By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go 
in the documents, music, movies, pictures, downloads, and desktop 
folders of my user folder. It's not system stuff, and it's not somebody 
else's.

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#119278

FromTim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
Date2018-11-08 17:31 +0000
Message-ID<081120181731376136%timstreater@greenbee.net>
In reply to#119276
In article <ps1q6v$ma5$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
wrote:

>On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point 
>>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very 
>>> quick.
>>>
>>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as 
>>> in Classic?
>> 
>> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.
>> 
>By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go 
>in the documents

Documents are for the most part on a server so SWMBO can also access
them.

>music, movies

I have none of these

>pictures,

are in a set of folders on the server mentioned above as we both edit
them

>downloads

go to the desktop, otherwise they get forgotten and just accumulate in
the downloads folder

>and desktop

is largely empty but I may have some files there on a temporary basis
from time to time

My Mini has an SSD and a second, internal, drive, and I use the
internal drive as a sort of zeroth level backup. I use an external
drive for Time machine for that lot. Same on SWMBO's Mini. Then there's
the server, a slow Mini which has a 3TB drive as main files device and
two more external drives both used by TM.

Stuff I'd really, REALLY hate to lose is also copied to DropBox and
onto two sticks in case I have to rapidly exit the building.

I don't really believe in Apple's (and it seems Win and Linux) assuming
on your behalf that all photos, f'rinstance, should go in one folder in
your user folder. Balls to that, and fortunately at least on macOS it's
still possible to have that flexibility.

-- 
Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web
page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had
very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another
word processor, or another network.

-- Tim Berners-Lee

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#119288

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2018-11-09 08:03 +1300
Message-ID<ps219v$p3n$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#119276
On 2018-11-08 17:02:21 +0000, J Burns said:
> On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
>> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point 
>>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very 
>>> quick.
>>> 
>>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
>>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as 
>>> in Classic?
>> 
>> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.
> 
> By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go 
> in the documents, music, movies, pictures, downloads, and desktop 
> folders of my user folder. It's not system stuff, and it's not somebody 
> else's.

You can store normal personal files (Word documents, Quicktime movies, 
MP3 files, etc.) wherever you want. The OS and apps don't care where 
they are.

Apps that use their own library system such as iTunes and Photos can 
also store those libraries wherever you want, but you have to tell the 
app where you want to store them since they default to the User folder.

You shouldn't really store files on the Desktop (despite Apple's latest 
gimmick of Desktop Stacks). It doesn't really matter for your own 
personal use on your own computer, but if you are using external drives 
to move files between computers, you may get to the other computer to 
find the file isn't on the drive, but still back on the original 
computer.

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#119291

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
Message-ID<081120181422060772%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119288
In article <ps219v$p3n$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> You shouldn't really store files on the Desktop (despite Apple's latest 
> gimmick of Desktop Stacks). 

there's nothing wrong with that.

> It doesn't really matter for your own 
> personal use on your own computer, but if you are using external drives 
> to move files between computers, you may get to the other computer to 
> find the file isn't on the drive, but still back on the original 
> computer.

nope. they'll be in the desktop folder.

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#119412

From"J.Albert" <j.albert@nowhere.net>
Date2018-11-09 22:29 -0500
Message-ID<ps5jak$1pgr$1@adenine.netfront.net>
In reply to#119263
On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had.

I've never used the home folder much, either.

In fact, I keep most of my personal/data files on a separate 
drive partition. Makes backing them up quick -- usually no 
more than 30 seconds to do an incremental update to my 
cloned backup on an external SSD.

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#119272

FromJolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Date2018-11-08 16:08 +0000
Message-ID<g4j5ceFlb7aU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#119251
On 2018-11-08, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out 
> that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.

I keep my entire home folder on an external FileVault-encrypted SSD
connected to my 2013 Mac Pro with USB3. I just erased/formatted it with
Disk Utility, copied my home folder contents to the drive, then set
System Preferences > Users & Groups > Advanced Options > Home directory
to the copied home folder. No problems to report - works fine.

> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my 
> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in 
> Classic?

Storing arbitrary files on an external drive is not a problem for macOS.
I recommend encrypting it if you care about the data on it.

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#119277

FromJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-08 12:27 -0500
Message-ID<ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119272
On 11/8/18 11:08 AM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2018-11-08, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out
>> that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick.
> 
> I keep my entire home folder on an external FileVault-encrypted SSD
> connected to my 2013 Mac Pro with USB3. I just erased/formatted it with
> Disk Utility, copied my home folder contents to the drive, then set
> System Preferences > Users & Groups > Advanced Options > Home directory
> to the copied home folder. No problems to report - works fine.
> 
>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my
>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in
>> Classic?
> 
> Storing arbitrary files on an external drive is not a problem for macOS.
> I recommend encrypting it if you care about the data on it.
> 
Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than 
50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of 
128.

If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, or I could 
store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would 
be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... 
maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.)

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#119279

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-11-08 12:44 -0500
Message-ID<081120181244369756%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#119277
In article <ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
wrote:

> Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than 
> 50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of 
> 128.

128 gig is a bit tight.

> If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, 

that's significantly slower. it's fine for a temporary test, but not as
an everyday system, and for laptops, makes it non-portable.

> or I could 
> store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would 
> be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... 
> maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.)

that type of stuff is not speed critical, so toss it on a server and/or
cloud, which itunes fully supports.

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#119312

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2018-11-08 23:38 +0000
Message-ID<slrnpu9i78.ct8.g.kreme@jaka.local>
In reply to#119279
In message <081120181244369756%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com>
> wrote:

>> Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than 
>> 50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of 
>> 128.

> 128 gig is a bit tight.

Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of
Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space.

If you use Backblaze (or used crashplan) you probably have tens of GB is
data just for those apps in /Library. On my machine the Backblaze bundle
is 35GB or so.

>> If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, 

> that's significantly slower. it's fine for a temporary test, but not as
> an everyday system, and for laptops, makes it non-portable.

>> or I could 
>> store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would 
>> be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... 
>> maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.)

Books are tiny.

> that type of stuff is not speed critical, so toss it on a server and/or
> cloud, which itunes fully supports.

That's what my Synology is for!

-- 
he sat on the bank, while the river still chattered on to him, a
babbling procession of the best stories in the world, sent from the
heart of the earth to be told at last to the insatiable sea.

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#119488

FromJ Burns <burns@nospam.com>
Date2018-11-12 02:30 -0500
Message-ID<psba6e$hbd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#119312
On 11/8/18 6:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> 128 gig is a bit tight.

> Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of
> Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space.

Ben Lovejoy of 9 to 5 Mac meant to order his mini with 128 GB. By 
mistake, he ordered 256.

He plugged in a Samsung X5, and Blackmagic showed it to be vastly faster 
than the internal SSD. It all stems from System 8's support for Firewire 
and USB.

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#119490

Fromdempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)
Date2018-11-12 21:57 +1300
Message-ID<1ny68jv.41v5k5qtlw3bN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz>
In reply to#119488
J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:

> On 11/8/18 6:38 PM, Lewis wrote:
> >> 128 gig is a bit tight.
> 
> > Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of
> > Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space.
> 
> Ben Lovejoy of 9 to 5 Mac meant to order his mini with 128 GB. By 
> mistake, he ordered 256.

Are you talking about this review?

https://9to5mac.com/2018/11/10/review-2018-mac-mini-video/

It was written by Jeff Benjamin, not Ben Lovejoy.

> He plugged in a Samsung X5, and Blackmagic showed it to be vastly faster
> than the internal SSD. It all stems from System 8's support for Firewire
> and USB.

Um, what? System 8 has nothing to do with this review, there is no
Firewire anywhere, USB is not relevant to this test.

The Samsung X5 was only 3% faster for read, but 42% faster for write.
The better write speed is probably due to the X5 being higher capacity
(at least 500 GB compared to 256 GB internal SSD).

It is a common pattern with SSDs in the same family that higher capacity
models can write faster than lower capacity models. This is because
flash memory is slower for writing than reading, higher capacity SSDs
have more flash memory chips, and they are arranged in parallel so the
greater number of chips means more data can be written at the same time.

Read doesn't benefit from the increased parallelism because the read
speed of a single flash memory chip is usually fast enough to saturate
the interface bus and/or controller.

My Mac Mini should be arriving tomorrow and will have a 512 GB internal
SSD, so I'll be able to add another data point to the write speed
comparison.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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