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| Started by | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| First post | 2018-11-08 08:44 -0500 |
| Last post | 2018-11-09 17:12 +0000 |
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keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 08:44 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-08 09:13 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 09:47 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 09:57 -0400
Re: keeping files on an external drive Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-08 10:29 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 09:49 -0400
Re: keeping files on an external drive Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-11-08 14:52 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 16:09 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 12:02 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-11-08 17:31 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 08:03 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive "J.Albert" <j.albert@nowhere.net> - 2018-11-09 22:29 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 16:08 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-08 12:27 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 12:44 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 23:38 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-12 02:30 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-12 21:57 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-12 22:14 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 12:55 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-13 19:52 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 12:51 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-13 19:52 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-12 12:19 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-12 12:31 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 22:41 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-13 15:10 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-13 12:24 -0800
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-13 17:11 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-13 15:02 -0800
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-14 00:41 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Alan Baker <nunya@ness.biz> - 2018-11-15 11:26 -0800
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-14 13:34 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-14 15:42 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-15 12:04 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-11-15 00:52 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-15 22:24 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-14 04:57 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-08 21:17 -0600
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 18:29 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-09 02:24 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 09:37 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-09 16:26 -0600
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 22:57 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:55 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-10 00:21 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2018-11-09 16:28 -0600
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:58 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 01:20 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-09 21:33 -0800
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-10 18:52 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 19:08 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2018-11-11 11:20 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 17:49 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 19:07 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-10 08:38 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-11-10 08:41 -0800
Re: keeping files on an external drive J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-11-10 14:35 -0500
Re: keeping files on an external drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 10:02 +1300
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-11 07:22 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-08 20:25 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-08 23:24 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 15:14 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 15:30 +0000
Re: keeping files on an external drive Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 17:12 +0000
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 08:44 -0500 |
| Subject | keeping files on an external drive |
| Message-ID | <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me> |
Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in Classic?
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| From | Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 09:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps1gac$2jc$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #119251 |
On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote: > Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out > that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. > > Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my > user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in > Classic? I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 port on my iMac. Works fine. A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely noticeable.
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 09:47 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps1i97$2u1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119256 |
On 11/8/18 9:13 AM, Wade Garrett wrote: > On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote: >> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point >> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very >> quick. >> >> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as >> in Classic? > > I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 port > on my iMac. Works fine. > > A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD > with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access > it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely > noticeable. Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your music and photos?
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 09:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <081120180957305174%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119260 |
In article <ps1i97$2u1$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > > A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD > > with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access > > it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is barely > > noticeable. > > Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your > music and photos? of course. you can also encrypt the drive if you don't want that to happen, at least without you being involved.
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| From | Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 10:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps1kpk$ptf$1@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #119260 |
On 11/8/18 9:47 AM, J Burns wrote: > On 11/8/18 9:13 AM, Wade Garrett wrote: >> On 11/8/18 8:44 AM, J Burns wrote: >>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point >>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very >>> quick. >>> >>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as >>> in Classic? >> >> I store my music and photos on an external HD connected to a USB 3 >> port on my iMac. Works fine. >> >> A portable external HD works better for me than a desktop external HD >> with a power supply which takes a few seconds to spin up when I access >> it. The portable needs to spin up too but for me, the lag time is >> barely noticeable. > > Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your > music and photos? The disk isn't encrypted, so yes- though most of the music is in my iTunes library. Don't know it that is accessible.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 10:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <081120181049111246%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119265 |
In article <ps1kpk$ptf$1@news.albasani.net>, Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> wrote: > > > > Could you plug that disk into somebody else's computer to access your > > music and photos? > > The disk isn't encrypted, so yes- though most of the music is in my > iTunes library. Don't know it that is accessible. it is, either directly or via itunes.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 09:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <081120180949417037%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119251 |
In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out > that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. > > Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my > user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in > Classic? of course. put them anywhere you want.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 14:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <081120181452071967%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #119251 |
In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out >that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. > >Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in >Classic? I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. -- "The EU Customs Union is a racket that defends producers in rich countries against producers in poor countries." Jacob Rees-Mogg MP
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 16:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g4j5dsFlb7aU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119263 |
On 2018-11-08, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote: > In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> > wrote: > >>Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out >>that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. >> >>Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >>user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in >>Classic? > > I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. I keep all of my personal files in my user folder (mostly organized in subordinate folders to the Documents folder). I see no reason to change that. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 12:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps1q6v$ma5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119263 |
On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote: > In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> > wrote: > >> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point >> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very >> quick. >> >> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as >> in Classic? > > I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. > By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go in the documents, music, movies, pictures, downloads, and desktop folders of my user folder. It's not system stuff, and it's not somebody else's.
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 17:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <081120181731376136%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #119276 |
In article <ps1q6v$ma5$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote: >> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point >>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very >>> quick. >>> >>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as >>> in Classic? >> >> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. >> >By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go >in the documents Documents are for the most part on a server so SWMBO can also access them. >music, movies I have none of these >pictures, are in a set of folders on the server mentioned above as we both edit them >downloads go to the desktop, otherwise they get forgotten and just accumulate in the downloads folder >and desktop is largely empty but I may have some files there on a temporary basis from time to time My Mini has an SSD and a second, internal, drive, and I use the internal drive as a sort of zeroth level backup. I use an external drive for Time machine for that lot. Same on SWMBO's Mini. Then there's the server, a slow Mini which has a 3TB drive as main files device and two more external drives both used by TM. Stuff I'd really, REALLY hate to lose is also copied to DropBox and onto two sticks in case I have to rapidly exit the building. I don't really believe in Apple's (and it seems Win and Linux) assuming on your behalf that all photos, f'rinstance, should go in one folder in your user folder. Balls to that, and fortunately at least on macOS it's still possible to have that flexibility. -- Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network. -- Tim Berners-Lee
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-09 08:03 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <ps219v$p3n$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #119276 |
On 2018-11-08 17:02:21 +0000, J Burns said: > On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote: >> In article <ps1ekh$c8n$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point >>> out that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very >>> quick. >>> >>> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >>> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as >>> in Classic? >> >> I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. > > By "personal files," I mean that stuff that, on my boot disk, would go > in the documents, music, movies, pictures, downloads, and desktop > folders of my user folder. It's not system stuff, and it's not somebody > else's. You can store normal personal files (Word documents, Quicktime movies, MP3 files, etc.) wherever you want. The OS and apps don't care where they are. Apps that use their own library system such as iTunes and Photos can also store those libraries wherever you want, but you have to tell the app where you want to store them since they default to the User folder. You shouldn't really store files on the Desktop (despite Apple's latest gimmick of Desktop Stacks). It doesn't really matter for your own personal use on your own computer, but if you are using external drives to move files between computers, you may get to the other computer to find the file isn't on the drive, but still back on the original computer.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 14:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <081120181422060772%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119288 |
In article <ps219v$p3n$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote: > You shouldn't really store files on the Desktop (despite Apple's latest > gimmick of Desktop Stacks). there's nothing wrong with that. > It doesn't really matter for your own > personal use on your own computer, but if you are using external drives > to move files between computers, you may get to the other computer to > find the file isn't on the drive, but still back on the original > computer. nope. they'll be in the desktop folder.
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| From | "J.Albert" <j.albert@nowhere.net> |
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| Date | 2018-11-09 22:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps5jak$1pgr$1@adenine.netfront.net> |
| In reply to | #119263 |
On 11/8/18 9:52 AM, Tim Streater wrote: > I have no personal files in my user folder and never have had. I've never used the home folder much, either. In fact, I keep most of my personal/data files on a separate drive partition. Makes backing them up quick -- usually no more than 30 seconds to do an incremental update to my cloned backup on an external SSD.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 16:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <g4j5ceFlb7aU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #119251 |
On 2018-11-08, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out > that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. I keep my entire home folder on an external FileVault-encrypted SSD connected to my 2013 Mac Pro with USB3. I just erased/formatted it with Disk Utility, copied my home folder contents to the drive, then set System Preferences > Users & Groups > Advanced Options > Home directory to the copied home folder. No problems to report - works fine. > Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my > user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in > Classic? Storing arbitrary files on an external drive is not a problem for macOS. I recommend encrypting it if you care about the data on it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 12:27 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119272 |
On 11/8/18 11:08 AM, Jolly Roger wrote: > On 2018-11-08, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: >> Internal storage is very expensive on the new minis. Reviewers point out >> that the Thunderbolt/USB C ports could make external disks very quick. > > I keep my entire home folder on an external FileVault-encrypted SSD > connected to my 2013 Mac Pro with USB3. I just erased/formatted it with > Disk Utility, copied my home folder contents to the drive, then set > System Preferences > Users & Groups > Advanced Options > Home directory > to the copied home folder. No problems to report - works fine. > >> Since Classic, I don't recall working with personal files outside my >> user folder. How would that work? Would they be accessible to all, as in >> Classic? > > Storing arbitrary files on an external drive is not a problem for macOS. > I recommend encrypting it if you care about the data on it. > Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than 50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of 128. If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, or I could store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.)
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 12:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <081120181244369756%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #119277 |
In article <ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than > 50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of > 128. 128 gig is a bit tight. > If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, that's significantly slower. it's fine for a temporary test, but not as an everyday system, and for laptops, makes it non-portable. > or I could > store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would > be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... > maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.) that type of stuff is not speed critical, so toss it on a server and/or cloud, which itunes fully supports.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2018-11-08 23:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnpu9i78.ct8.g.kreme@jaka.local> |
| In reply to | #119279 |
In message <081120181244369756%nospam@nospam.invalid> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <ps1rll$fg$1@dont-email.me>, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> > wrote: >> Thank you. In the last six years, my boot disk has always had less than >> 50 GB, so I don't want to pay Apple an extra $200 for 256 GB instead of >> 128. > 128 gig is a bit tight. Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space. If you use Backblaze (or used crashplan) you probably have tens of GB is data just for those apps in /Library. On my machine the Backblaze bundle is 35GB or so. >> If my needs changed, I could boot off a bigger external disk, > that's significantly slower. it's fine for a temporary test, but not as > an everyday system, and for laptops, makes it non-portable. >> or I could >> store some folders externally, as I did in Classic. The space hogs would >> be things like books, music, and movies... not at all private. (Hmmm... >> maybe one of these days I should try using iTunes again.) Books are tiny. > that type of stuff is not speed critical, so toss it on a server and/or > cloud, which itunes fully supports. That's what my Synology is for! -- he sat on the bank, while the river still chattered on to him, a babbling procession of the best stories in the world, sent from the heart of the earth to be told at last to the insatiable sea.
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| From | J Burns <burns@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 02:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <psba6e$hbd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #119312 |
On 11/8/18 6:38 PM, Lewis wrote: >> 128 gig is a bit tight. > Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of > Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space. Ben Lovejoy of 9 to 5 Mac meant to order his mini with 128 GB. By mistake, he ordered 256. He plugged in a Samsung X5, and Blackmagic showed it to be vastly faster than the internal SSD. It all stems from System 8's support for Firewire and USB.
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| From | dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) |
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| Date | 2018-11-12 21:57 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1ny68jv.41v5k5qtlw3bN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz> |
| In reply to | #119488 |
J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote: > On 11/8/18 6:38 PM, Lewis wrote: > >> 128 gig is a bit tight. > > > Very. My Applications folder is 160GB and while 60GB of that is World of > > Warcraft that I would not have on a laptop, it's still a lot of space. > > Ben Lovejoy of 9 to 5 Mac meant to order his mini with 128 GB. By > mistake, he ordered 256. Are you talking about this review? https://9to5mac.com/2018/11/10/review-2018-mac-mini-video/ It was written by Jeff Benjamin, not Ben Lovejoy. > He plugged in a Samsung X5, and Blackmagic showed it to be vastly faster > than the internal SSD. It all stems from System 8's support for Firewire > and USB. Um, what? System 8 has nothing to do with this review, there is no Firewire anywhere, USB is not relevant to this test. The Samsung X5 was only 3% faster for read, but 42% faster for write. The better write speed is probably due to the X5 being higher capacity (at least 500 GB compared to 256 GB internal SSD). It is a common pattern with SSDs in the same family that higher capacity models can write faster than lower capacity models. This is because flash memory is slower for writing than reading, higher capacity SSDs have more flash memory chips, and they are arranged in parallel so the greater number of chips means more data can be written at the same time. Read doesn't benefit from the increased parallelism because the read speed of a single flash memory chip is usually fast enough to saturate the interface bus and/or controller. My Mac Mini should be arriving tomorrow and will have a 512 GB internal SSD, so I'll be able to add another data point to the write speed comparison. -- David Empson dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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