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  Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-17 12:46 -0700
    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-17 15:59 -0400
    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 11:08 +1200
    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-17 23:50 +0000
      Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-08-18 01:42 +0000
        Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-18 15:35 +1200
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-18 18:01 +0000
        Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-18 17:58 +0000
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-08-19 14:52 -0400
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-20 00:16 +0000
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-22 23:25 +0000
    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-18 03:09 +0000
      Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-18 18:01 +0000
        Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-19 00:18 -0700
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-19 17:00 +0000
        Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-19 12:34 +0000
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-08-19 22:57 +0000
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-19 19:03 -0400
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 05:05 -0400
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-08-21 01:46 +0000
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-08-19 22:13 -0400
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-20 16:03 +0000
              Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? J Burns <burns@nospam.com> - 2018-08-20 16:31 -0400
                Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-20 22:42 +0000
                  Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-27 10:31 -0700
                    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-27 13:49 -0400
                    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2018-08-27 20:39 +0200
                    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-27 20:13 +0000
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-08-22 23:22 +0000
              Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-08-29 16:45 -0700
                Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-30 15:45 +1200
                Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-30 17:26 +0000
                  Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-08-30 17:59 -0700
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-27 10:28 -0700
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Elden <usenet@moondog.org> - 2018-09-01 12:59 -0500
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-09-03 03:48 +0000
        Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-19 23:57 -0700
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-08-20 19:19 +1200
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-20 09:17 -0400
          Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-08-20 15:58 +0000
            Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? csampson@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) - 2018-08-27 10:22 -0700
    Re: Where Does Advanced Mac Cleaner Come From? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2018-08-19 19:27 -0700

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#117760

On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>
>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
> 
>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
> 
> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
> install Flash...
> 
I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.

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#117772

On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>
>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>> 
>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>> 
>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>> install Flash...
>> 
> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.

Are you sure about that? Did you try changing your user agent to an iOS
string? Often that's all that is needed to play videos on sites that
falsely claim Flash is required on desktop browsers.

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#117779

On 8/20/18 12:03 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>>>
>>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>>>
>>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>>> install Flash...
>>>
>> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.
> 
> Are you sure about that? Did you try changing your user agent to an iOS
> string? Often that's all that is needed to play videos on sites that
> falsely claim Flash is required on desktop browsers.
> 
http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites

I read about it here. When I tried 24hoursofhappy, it played without 
flash. The article, written this year, seemed to say it was required.

As long as I can have Pharrell Williams' song playing on my Mac 24 hours 
a day, I don't need flash! ;)

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#117781

On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 8/20/18 12:03 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>>>>
>>>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>>>>
>>>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>>>> install Flash...
>>>>
>>> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.
>> 
>> Are you sure about that? Did you try changing your user agent to an iOS
>> string? Often that's all that is needed to play videos on sites that
>> falsely claim Flash is required on desktop browsers.
>> 
> http://www.ebizmba.com/articles/best-flash-sites
>
> I read about it here. When I tried 24hoursofhappy, it played without 
> flash. The article, written this year, seemed to say it was required.

I repeat: Sites often falsely claim "Flash is required" when in
actuality, if you view them on any mobile device or if you change the
User Agent string of your browser (Safari > Develop > User Agent > any
iOS string) then they play just fine with HTML5 instead of Flash.

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#117825

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> I repeat: Sites often falsely claim "Flash is required" when in
> actuality, if you view them on any mobile device or if you change the
> User Agent string of your browser (Safari > Develop > User Agent > any
> iOS string) then they play just fine with HTML5 instead of Flash.

What is an iOS string, JR? Not being a power Mac user, I would have
thought that it has something to do with iOS, not Mac OS X.

Charlie
-- 
Nobody in this country got rich on his own.  You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for.  You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward.  Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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#117826

In article <1nu6t4t.mtg315kohvqN%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

> > I repeat: Sites often falsely claim "Flash is required" when in
> > actuality, if you view them on any mobile device or if you change the
> > User Agent string of your browser (Safari > Develop > User Agent > any
> > iOS string) then they play just fine with HTML5 instead of Flash.
> 
> What is an iOS string, JR? Not being a power Mac user, I would have
> thought that it has something to do with iOS, not Mac OS X.

that's exactly it. by setting the user agent to any ios browser, the
web site will see that you're connecting from an ios device (even if
you're not) and offer a non-flash version of the site in almost every
case.

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#117837

On 2018-08-27, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>> I repeat: Sites often falsely claim "Flash is required" when in
>> actuality, if you view them on any mobile device or if you change the
>> User Agent string of your browser (Safari > Develop > User Agent > any
>> iOS string) then they play just fine with HTML5 instead of Flash.
>
> What is an iOS string, JR? Not being a power Mac user, I would have
> thought that it has something to do with iOS, not Mac OS X.

If you don't see Develop in the main Safari menu, you can enable it
from Safari Preferences -> Advanced. It's the bottom item on that
screen.

If in Safari you click on Develop > User Agent, you will see a further
submenu listing various browsers you can choose.  On my system there
are 3 for iOS:

Safari -- iOS 11.0 -- iPhone
Safari -- iOS 11.0 -- iPos Touch
Safari -- iOS 11.0 -- iPad


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The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the
intelligent are full of doubt.                 -- Bertrand Russell

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#117844

On 2018-08-27, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-20, J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> I repeat: Sites often falsely claim "Flash is required" when in
>> actuality, if you view them on any mobile device or if you change the
>> User Agent string of your browser (Safari > Develop > User Agent > any
>> iOS string) then they play just fine with HTML5 instead of Flash.
>
> What is an iOS string, JR? Not being a power Mac user, I would have
> thought that it has something to do with iOS, not Mac OS X.

Web browsers identify themselves to web servers with a "user agent"
string. It's a string of text that identifies which web browser you are
using to view the site.

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent>

To temporarily change your User Agent string to iOS in any browser
windows or tab, follow my instructions above - here's what that looks
like:

<https://i.imgur.com/GdyZu9w.png>

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#117793

In message <pld84b$5gi$1@dont-email.me> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>
>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>> 
>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>> 
>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>> install Flash...
>> 
> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.

Any site in 2010 that required Flash was a site I refused to use. Flash
is a massive security issue, and the simplest thing you can do to make
your computer entirely open to attackers. If you are using it, you are
being foolish, and that has been true for a decade.

There is no website that is worth the security risk of installing Flash.

Also, the vast majority of sites that "require" flash are simply lying.
Change your user agent to iOS iPad and everything works perfectly.

They want you to use flash because they specifically want to inject
malware and tracking onto your computer.

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like world peace and happiness, but you might just about be able to
achieve some tiny deed that'd make the world, in a small way, a better
place. Like shooting someone.

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#117884

On 2018-08-22 23:22:29 +0000, Lewis said:

> In message <pld84b$5gi$1@dont-email.me> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger 
>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. 
>>>>> Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>>> 
>>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>>> 
>>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>>> install Flash...
>>> 
>> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.
> 
> Any site in 2010 that required Flash was a site I refused to use. Flash
> is a massive security issue, and the simplest thing you can do to make
> your computer entirely open to attackers. If you are using it, you are
> being foolish, and that has been true for a decade.
> 
> There is no website that is worth the security risk of installing Flash.
> 
> Also, the vast majority of sites that "require" flash are simply lying.
> Change your user agent to iOS iPad and everything works perfectly.
> 
> They want you to use flash because they specifically want to inject
> malware and tracking onto your computer.

I (attempted to) take your advice and switch the user agent to IOS 
iPad.  But every time I load a new site it defaults again to:

     Develop > User Agent > Default (Automatically Chosen)

Is there no way to change the default?

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#117896

On 2018-08-29 23:45:57 +0000, gtr said:
> On 2018-08-22 23:22:29 +0000, Lewis said:
>> In message <pld84b$5gi$1@dont-email.me> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/19/18 8:34 AM, Lewis wrote:
>>>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger 
>>>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. 
>>>>>> Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>>>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>>>> 
>>>>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>>>> 
>>>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>>>> install Flash...
>>> 
>>> I'm sympathetic.  Until recently, 24hoursofhappy.com required it.
>> 
>> Any site in 2010 that required Flash was a site I refused to use. Flash
>> is a massive security issue, and the simplest thing you can do to make
>> your computer entirely open to attackers. If you are using it, you are
>> being foolish, and that has been true for a decade.
>> 
>> There is no website that is worth the security risk of installing Flash.
>> 
>> Also, the vast majority of sites that "require" flash are simply lying.
>> Change your user agent to iOS iPad and everything works perfectly.
>> 
>> They want you to use flash because they specifically want to inject
>> malware and tracking onto your computer.
> 
> I (attempted to) take your advice and switch the user agent to IOS 
> iPad.  But every time I load a new site it defaults again to:
> 
>      Develop > User Agent > Default (Automatically Chosen)

It keeps your custom setting as long as you don't close that window / 
tab. As soon as you open another window / tab, it returns to the deaful 
option.




> Is there no way to change the default?

Not within Safari itself.

I don't know if one of the system utility apps like TinkerTool or Onyx 
can change it more easily ... and make it easier to revert if things go 
wrong!

It's not really something you should probably be playing with and I 
don't know if it still works, but you used to be able to change it 
using a Terminal command:

    defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "\"useragentstring\""

where you replace useragentstring with the one you want. The easiest 
way to find that string is to change the User Agent in Safari to the 
one you want, then go to the Develop > User Agent > Other and copy the 
text from that window.

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#117912

On 2018-08-29, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>
> I (attempted to) take your advice and switch the user agent to IOS 
> iPad.  But every time I load a new site it defaults again to:
>
>      Develop > User Agent > Default (Automatically Chosen)

Yes, the setting stays in effect for the current window or tab only.
And that's a Good Thing™.

> Is there no way to change the default?

Yes. There's a hidden preference setting called CustomUserAgent that you
can add to Safari's property list. You can do it using the "defaults"
command-line tool. 

Here's an example using the user agent string for Safari's Develop >
User Agent > Safari — iOS 11 — iPhone menu command:

defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "\"Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; CPU iPhone OS 9_3 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13E188a Safari/601.1\""

Note: You need to wrap the user agent string in escaped quotes (\") s
shown above.

You can optionally add it directly to the
~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Safari.plist property list file,
assuming you have a property list editor (Xcode has one built in)
installed on your system.

Tip: You can view the user agent string for the one you are currently
using at any time by doing a web search for "what is my user agent". At
the top of the search results most search engines will show you the
string you are currently using.

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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#117914

On 2018-08-30 17:26:29 +0000, Jolly Roger said:

> On 2018-08-29, gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> wrote:
>> 
>> I (attempted to) take your advice and switch the user agent to IOS
>> iPad.  But every time I load a new site it defaults again to:
>> 
>> Develop > User Agent > Default (Automatically Chosen)
> 
> Yes, the setting stays in effect for the current window or tab only.
> And that's a Good Thing™.
> 
>> Is there no way to change the default?
> 
> Yes. There's a hidden preference setting called CustomUserAgent that you
> can add to Safari's property list. You can do it using the "defaults"
> command-line tool.
> 
> Here's an example using the user agent string for Safari's Develop >
> User Agent > Safari — iOS 11 — iPhone menu command:
> 
> defaults write com.apple.Safari CustomUserAgent "\"Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; 
> CPU iPhone OS 9_3 like Mac OS X) AppleWebKit/601.1.46 (KHTML, like 
> Gecko) Version/9.0 Mobile/13E188a Safari/601.1\""
> 
> Note: You need to wrap the user agent string in escaped quotes (\") s
> shown above.
> 
> You can optionally add it directly to the
> ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.Safari.plist property list file,
> assuming you have a property list editor (Xcode has one built in)
> installed on your system.
> 
> Tip: You can view the user agent string for the one you are currently
> using at any time by doing a web search for "what is my user agent". At
> the top of the search results most search engines will show you the
> string you are currently using.

Thanks.

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#117824

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger
> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> >> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H.
> >> Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> >>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
> >>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
> >>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
> >>> speak to him sternly.
> >>
> >> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
> >> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
> 
> > In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
> 
> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
> install Flash...

As usual, YMMV. Whether you have any sympathy depends on how sympathetic
a person you are. Also, a slightly more polite person would use
"ignorant" rather than "dumb".

But of course, none of that matters, since the point of your "response"
was to show how superior you are to the person asking for help.

Charlie
-- 
Nobody in this country got rich on his own.  You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for.  You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward.  Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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#117945

On 2018-08-27, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> But of course, none of that matters, since the point of your "response"
> was to show how superior you are to the person asking for help.

Heh, welcome to usenet.

-- 
-=Elden=-

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#117968

In message <1nu6svo.71i0x6m5sy0xN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

>> In message <ftr58kFltkpU3@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger
>> <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> > On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> >> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H.
>> >> Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>> >>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>> >>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>> >>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>> >>> speak to him sternly.
>> >>
>> >> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>> >> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>> 
>> > In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>> 
>> Then it's really hard to have any sympathy. Anyone dumb enough to
>> install Flash...

> As usual, YMMV. Whether you have any sympathy depends on how sympathetic
> a person you are. Also, a slightly more polite person would use
> "ignorant" rather than "dumb".

Ignorant was 10 years ago, now we're well within dumb.

> But of course, none of that matters, since the point of your "response"
> was to show how superior you are to the person asking for help.

No, the point was to make it clear to the person that running Flash is
stupid.

-- 
Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

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#117766

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
> > In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson
> > <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> >> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
> >> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
> >> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
> >> speak to him sternly.
> >
> > It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
> > knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
> 
> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
> 
> <https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2018/04/new-crossrider-variant-
> installs-configuration-profiles-on-macs/>

Holy cow! Do you mean that all of these warnings I've been getting,
around every other day, that my Adobe Flash must be updated have been
fakes? It's a wonder my computer runs at all.

Charlie
-- 
Nobody in this country got rich on his own.  You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for.  You hired workers we
all paid to educate. So keep a big hunk of the money from your factory.
But take a hunk and pay it forward.  Elizabeth Warren (paraphrased)

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#117768

On 2018-08-20 06:57:20 +0000, Charles H. Sampson said:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>> In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson
>>> <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>>>> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>>>> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>>>> speak to him sternly.
>>> 
>>> It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>>> knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>> 
>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>> 
>> <https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2018/04/new-crossrider-variant-
>> installs-configuration-profiles-on-macs/>
> 
> Holy cow! Do you mean that all of these warnings I've been getting,
> around every other day, that my Adobe Flash must be updated have been
> fakes? It's a wonder my computer runs at all.
> 
> Charlie

It depends on where those warnings have been coming from.

Always use the Flash Player panel in System Prefences to check for 
updates for the Flash plug-ins, although some web browsers may have it 
built-in, so you need to get the new version of the browser from their 
official website.

The standalone Flash Player you have to manually download from Adobe's 
website, but most people don't need that anyway.

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#117770

In article <1ntt138.10nncqgvabfr2N%csampson@inetworld.net>, Charles H.
Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:

> 
> Holy cow! Do you mean that all of these warnings I've been getting,
> around every other day, that my Adobe Flash must be updated have been
> fakes? It's a wonder my computer runs at all.

yes

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#117771

On 2018-08-20, Charles H. Sampson <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2018-08-18, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>> > In message <1ntogjr.qfo5c1c07bakN%csampson@inetworld.net> Charles H. Sampson
>> > <csampson@inetworld.net> wrote:
>> >> Does anyone know how I might have picked it up? I'm pretty good about
>> >> not messing around with sites that are unfamiliar. It might have been
>> >> done by one of the other users of this computer, in which case I will
>> >> speak to him sternly.
>> >
>> > It is generally installed by the user, often without their explicit
>> > knowledge as it will be a "feature" of a downloaded installer.
>> 
>> In this case, very likely a fake "Adobe Flash" installer:
>> 
>> <https://blog.malwarebytes.com/threat-analysis/2018/04/new-crossrider-variant-
>> installs-configuration-profiles-on-macs/>
>
> Holy cow! Do you mean that all of these warnings I've been getting,
> around every other day, that my Adobe Flash must be updated have been
> fakes? It's a wonder my computer runs at all.

That's not what I said. 

If you are browsing a website and the webpage (or a pop-up window in
your browser) displays an unsolicited message that tells you that you
need to install or update Flash, then unless you are on the adobe.com
website, you should be suspicious of the message. 

If instead you have Flash already installed and configured to
automatically check for updates periodically, and you see a notification
outside of your web browser telling you an update is available, then you
should check to be sure the notification is in fact from Adobe. 

In either case, you should *never* install any software advertised
through any unsolicited message in your web browser. You should *always*
be sure to download software *directly* from the entity that creates the
software in question. For Flash that means the adobe.com website and no
other place on the net. 

As I've said previously: There is not much of a real need for any Mac
users these days to install Flash. If you encounter a video on the web
that claims Flash is needed, use the Debug menu to change your User
Agent string to one of the iOS strings and like magic, nine times out of
ten, the video will play. This has to do with the fact that website
authors often use HTML5 to play videos on mobile devices, but use Flash
to play them on desktop devices - a really silly convention these days.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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