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iPhoto vs Photo

Started byOtto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com>
First post2015-05-28 20:49 -0700
Last post2015-06-12 19:42 -0500
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  iPhoto vs Photo Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-05-28 20:49 -0700
    Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-29 02:21 -0400
    Re: iPhoto vs Photo dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-29 19:50 +1200
      Re: iPhoto vs Photo Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-05-29 18:13 -0700
        Re: iPhoto vs Photo John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-05-29 18:56 -0700
        Re: iPhoto vs Photo dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-05-30 14:36 +1200
        Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-30 02:06 -0400
          Re: iPhoto vs Photo Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-05-30 09:18 -0700
            Re: iPhoto vs Photo awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-05-30 12:13 -0700
              Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-05-30 17:01 -0400
                Re: iPhoto vs Photo Alan Baker <email@domain.com> - 2015-06-02 07:27 -0700
    Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-03 22:58 +0000
      Re: iPhoto vs Photo sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-06-05 16:27 +0000
        Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-06 01:59 +0000
          Re: iPhoto vs Photo Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-06-06 11:53 +0100
            Re: iPhoto vs Photo Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-06-06 11:58 +0100
        Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-07 17:02 -0500
          Re: iPhoto vs Photo Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-08 08:02 -0400
            Re: iPhoto vs Photo android <here@there.was> - 2015-06-08 17:02 +0200
            Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-10 10:44 -0500
              Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-10 21:05 +0000
                Re: iPhoto vs Photo Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-10 17:31 -0400
                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-10 15:00 -0700
                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-10 18:47 -0400
                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-12 18:23 +0000
                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-12 14:41 -0400
                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-12 19:50 -0500
                        Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-12 21:02 -0400
                          Re: iPhoto vs Photo sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-06-14 20:45 +0000
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-14 16:59 -0400
                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-06-12 14:30 -0500
                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-13 22:17 +0000
                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-12 19:49 -0500
                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-13 22:24 +0000
                        Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-16 11:33 -0500
                          Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-16 12:35 -0400
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2015-06-20 01:11 +0000
                          Re: iPhoto vs Photo David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-16 12:54 -0500
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-16 14:21 -0400
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-16 14:57 -0500
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-16 16:54 -0400
                                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-16 22:46 -0500
                                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-17 00:14 -0400
                                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 10:01 -0500
                                        Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-18 11:53 -0400
                                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-06-18 23:46 +1200
                                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 09:55 -0500
                                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 09:49 -0500
                                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-18 11:53 -0400
                                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-18 12:27 -0400
                                        Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-18 13:32 -0400
                                          Re: iPhoto vs Photo dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-06-19 12:35 +1200
                                      Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:02 -0500
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-16 19:06 -0400
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-17 18:29 -0500
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-06-17 19:42 -0400
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-17 23:38 -0400
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-06-17 13:19 +1200
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-06-16 18:56 -0700
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-17 12:44 -0400
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-17 12:56 -0400
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-17 18:28 -0500
                            Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-17 18:26 -0500
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-17 20:28 -0500
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-17 23:37 -0400
                                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 09:44 -0500
                                Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 09:44 -0500
                                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-18 11:53 -0400
                                  Re: iPhoto vs Photo Savageduck <savageduck1@(REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-06-18 09:32 -0700
                                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:07 -0500
                                  And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-18 18:09 -0500
                                    Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-22 10:46 -0500
                                      Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-22 17:40 +0100
                                      Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-06-22 16:49 -0500
                                        Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-23 09:35 +0100
                                          Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-06-23 11:02 -0400
                                            Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-23 18:50 -0500
                                        Re: And Now For Something Completely Different (Re: iPhoto vs Photo) erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-23 18:49 -0500
                                          Re: And Now For Something Completely Different erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-24 15:25 -0500
                                            Re: And Now For Something Completely Different Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-06-24 21:38 +0100
                              Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-18 09:22 -0500
                    Re: iPhoto vs Photo JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-06-12 21:42 -0400
                Re: iPhoto vs Photo erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2015-06-12 19:42 -0500

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#76471

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-06-10 21:05 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>
In reply to#76460
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar 
<drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> the 
> iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever 
> encountering.
 
You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.

-- 
John Varela

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#76475

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-10 17:31 -0400
Message-ID<5578acc4$0$24508$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#76471
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar 
> <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > the 
> > iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever 
> > encountering.
>  
> You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.

Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course, 
it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach 
the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and 
greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.

So, we will not be spending any time at all with Photos which 
righteously sucks; we need a professional useful well-designed 
application.

Sorry to piss on your deities.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#76476

FromSavageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date2015-06-10 15:00 -0700
Message-ID<0001HW.1B28EB0103473DC41148833CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to#76475
On Jun 10, 2015, Warren Oates wrote
(in article<5578acc4$0$24508$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>):

> In article<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>,
> "John Varela"<newlamps@verizon.net>wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar
> > <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>wrote:
> > 
> > > the
> > > iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever
> > > encountering.
> > 
> > You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.
> 
> Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course,
> it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach
> the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and
> greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.

Apple have done their best to hide the fix, but it is there in Image Capture.

Open Image Capture and attach a camera or memory card with image files.
In the Image Capture window, in the lower left corner you will see an icon 
with an upward facing arrow. click on that icon.
A dialog is opened for that camera or memory card with the following:
“Connecting this camera opens” + a dropdown menu with options, choose 
“No application”. The problem is solved and you can just forget about 
Photos/iPhoto.
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_179.jpg>

I use Lightroom and If it is open the import dialog opens automatically and 
defaults to ejection of memory card once the import is complete. If you want 
to you can add Lightroom as an optional app to open in Image Capture. I 
don't.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

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#76477

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-06-10 18:47 -0400
Message-ID<100620151847162750%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#76475
In article <5578acc4$0$24508$c3e8da3$f6268168@news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course, 
> it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach 
> the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and 
> greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.

no they didn't, and it's also in photos too.

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#76527

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-06-12 18:23 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-mD2lMTFxB2KP@localhost>
In reply to#76475
On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:31:47 UTC, Warren Oates 
<warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar 
> > <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> > 
> > > the 
> > > iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever 
> > > encountering.
> >  
> > You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.
> 
> Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course, 
> it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach 
> the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and 
> greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.
> 
> So, we will not be spending any time at all with Photos which 
> righteously sucks; we need a professional useful well-designed 
> application.
> 
> Sorry to piss on your deities.

Are you talking to me? Read my post again. It should be perfectly 
clear that whatever his problem is with iTunes, I said Photos is 
worse.

I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple 
brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds 
along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
never.

Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly 
labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers 
descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
Elements before importing to iPhoto.

-- 
John Varela

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#76528

FromWarren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com>
Date2015-06-12 14:41 -0400
Message-ID<557b27c1$0$32431$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#76527
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-mD2lMTFxB2KP@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> Are you talking to me? Read my post again. It should be perfectly 
> clear that whatever his problem is with iTunes, I said Photos is 
> worse.
>

Sorry, I completely took it the other way.
 
> I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple 
> brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds 
> along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> never.
> 

Reverting to iPhoto would have meant some hoop-jumping on a newly 
installed 10.10.3, so we went over to Lightroom. The oul' Woman quite 
liked iPhoto, but now she's totally enamoured of Lightroom, which does 
the same things for her but way better and has a direct link to 
Photoshop (it's called "Photoshop Lightroom" after all).

> Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly 
> labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers 
> descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> Elements before importing to iPhoto.

We've got that Canon app somehwere, but Lightroom will import the stuff 
any way we want, once it sees the camera. The dates are all in the exif 
data, which Lightroom will happily read.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#76534

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2015-06-12 19:50 -0500
Message-ID<drache-1C474E.19502412062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#76528
In article <557b27c1$0$32431$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com>,
 Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-mD2lMTFxB2KP@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > Are you talking to me? Read my post again. It should be perfectly 
> > clear that whatever his problem is with iTunes, I said Photos is 
> > worse.
> >
> 
> Sorry, I completely took it the other way.
>  
> > I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple 
> > brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds 
> > along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> > never.
> > 
> 
> Reverting to iPhoto would have meant some hoop-jumping on a newly 
> installed 10.10.3, so we went over to Lightroom. The oul' Woman quite 
> liked iPhoto, but now she's totally enamoured of Lightroom, which does 
> the same things for her but way better and has a direct link to 
> Photoshop (it's called "Photoshop Lightroom" after all).
> 
> > Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> > with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly 
> > labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers 
> > descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> > Elements before importing to iPhoto.
> 
> We've got that Canon app somehwere, but Lightroom will import the stuff 
> any way we want, once it sees the camera. The dates are all in the exif 
> data, which Lightroom will happily read.

Lightroom sounds useful.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#76535

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-06-12 21:02 -0400
Message-ID<120620152102404312%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#76534
In article <drache-1C474E.19502412062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> Lightroom sounds useful.

extremely

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#76611

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-06-14 20:45 +0000
Message-ID<mlkp4v$2gg$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76535
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:02:40 -0400, nospam wrote:

> In article <drache-1C474E.19502412062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Lightroom sounds useful.
> 
> extremely

What version(s) of Lightroom would work with Snow Leopard 10.6.8?

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#76612

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-06-14 16:59 -0400
Message-ID<140620151659077845%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#76611
In article <mlkp4v$2gg$1@dont-email.me>, sctvguy1
<sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> >> Lightroom sounds useful.
> > 
> > extremely
> 
> What version(s) of Lightroom would work with Snow Leopard 10.6.8?

1-4

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#76529

Fromsctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net>
Date2015-06-12 14:30 -0500
Message-ID<mlfbui$qe9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#76527
On 2015-06-12 13:23:24 -0500, John Varela said:

> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:31:47 UTC, Warren Oates
> <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>,
>> "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar
>>> <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> the
>>>> iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever
>>>> encountering.
>>> 
>>> You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.
>> 
>> Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course,
>> it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach
>> the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and
>> greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.
>> 
>> So, we will not be spending any time at all with Photos which
>> righteously sucks; we need a professional useful well-designed
>> application.
>> 
>> Sorry to piss on your deities.
> 
> Are you talking to me? Read my post again. It should be perfectly
> clear that whatever his problem is with iTunes, I said Photos is
> worse.
> 
> I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple
> brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds
> along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> never.
> 
> Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly
> labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers
> descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> Elements before importing to iPhoto.

What version of OSX are you using?  I have a Canon PowerShot A630.  I 
am on 10.6.8.  BTW, how hard was it to get OS/2 installed alongside on 
your iMac.  I have eComStation 2.1.  

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#76561

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-06-13 22:17 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-iO5HMb8ufXYb@localhost>
In reply to#76529
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 19:30:39 UTC, sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> 
wrote:

> On 2015-06-12 13:23:24 -0500, John Varela said:
> 
> > On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:31:47 UTC, Warren Oates
> > <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-XedMYKMSDYXq@localhost>,
> >> "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:44:25 UTC, erilar
> >>> <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> the
> >>>> iTunes thing in Yosemite is the worst abomination I can recall ever
> >>>> encountering.
> >>> 
> >>> You evidently haven't spent a lot of time with Photos.
> >> 
> >> Well, we did. It fucking sucks. So we went to Lightroom. And of course,
> >> it's pretty hard to find the "don't open fucking Photos when you attach
> >> the fucking camera" button and of course, Apple in their ignorance and
> >> greed have removed the Preferences from Image Capture.
> >> 
> >> So, we will not be spending any time at all with Photos which
> >> righteously sucks; we need a professional useful well-designed
> >> application.
> >> 
> >> Sorry to piss on your deities.
> > 
> > Are you talking to me? Read my post again. It should be perfectly
> > clear that whatever his problem is with iTunes, I said Photos is
> > worse.
> > 
> > I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple
> > brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds
> > along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> > never.
> > 
> > Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> > with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly
> > labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers
> > descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> > Elements before importing to iPhoto.
> 
> What version of OSX are you using?

Yosemite 10.10.3

>  I have a Canon PowerShot A630. I am on 10.6.8

I have a Canon S100 that's something over three years old. It came 
with a CD of Canon Utilities, one of which is called Camera Window 
and that's what I use to upload from the camera.

A look at the web site suggests that Canon now only supports upload 
via wi-fi. Take a look at your CD if you still have it. If not, I 
can email you a copy of the program, which may work with your 
camera. I am posting here with a valid email address so let me know 
by email if you need it. 

> BTW, how hard was it to get OS/2 installed alongside on 
> your iMac.  I have eComStation 2.1.  
 
I did that so long ago I don't even remember. I run eCS 2.0 under 
Parallels Desktop. I had written a REXX script to back up my OS/2 
system to two (!) CD-RWs of ZIP files, one CD for the system and 
another for the apps and data. I think what I did was to install eCS
from its install disks and then fetched the apps and data from the 
backup. I have propagated the eCS VM through a half-dozen versions 
of OS X and at least that many versions of Parallels Desktop.

-- 
John Varela

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#76533

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2015-06-12 19:49 -0500
Message-ID<drache-708C47.19492312062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#76527
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-mD2lMTFxB2KP@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple 
> brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds 
> along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> never.

Is there a way to get it into a laptop cursed with Yosemite?

> Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly 
> labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers 
> descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> Elements before importing to iPhoto.

I still have to use my old laptop with Snow Leopard for foto editing for 
the same reasons. I have a system of nested folders I prefer for storing 
them. My Nikon app also lets ME control where they go. iPhoto is just 
for making albums not dependent on a bloated Camera Roll backup that I 
can edit on the computer that will then hold still on the iPad.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#76563

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-06-13 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-GO9LCym5c6nl@localhost>
In reply to#76533
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:49:23 UTC, erilar 
<drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-mD2lMTFxB2KP@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> > I've reverted to iPhoto, for as long as it lasts or until Apple 
> > brings Photos up to the level of iPhoto, which, if this proceeds 
> > along the lines of the switch from iMovie HD down to iMovie, will be
> > never.
> 
> Is there a way to get it into a laptop cursed with Yosemite?

If by "it" you mean iPhoto, I haven't had any problem running it 
under Yosemite. If you mean iMovie HD, that won't run so I have a 
Snow Leopard partition on an external drive that I use to work with 
movies. Apps running from the external drive can access files in
[Mac hard drive]/Users/Shared. 
 
> > Regarding how to upload photos from the camera, my Canon camera came
> > with a Mac app that loads photos and videos to folders neatly 
> > labeled  by date. I like to cull my photos and give the keepers 
> > descriptive filenames and, when needed, preprocess them in Photoshop
> > Elements before importing to iPhoto.
> 
> I still have to use my old laptop with Snow Leopard for foto editing for 
> the same reasons. I have a system of nested folders I prefer for storing 
> them. My Nikon app also lets ME control where they go. iPhoto is just 
> for making albums not dependent on a bloated Camera Roll backup that I 
> can edit on the computer that will then hold still on the iPad.

-- 
John Varela

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#76698

Fromerilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid>
Date2015-06-16 11:33 -0500
Message-ID<drache-231E4C.11330116062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
In reply to#76563
In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-GO9LCym5c6nl@localhost>,
 "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:49:23 UTC, erilar 
> <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> > Is there a way to get it into a laptop cursed with Yosemite?
> 
> If by "it" you mean iPhoto, I haven't had any problem running it 
> under Yosemite. If you mean iMovie HD, that won't run so I have a 
> Snow Leopard partition on an external drive that I use to work with 
> movies. Apps running from the external drive can access files in
> [Mac hard drive]/Users/Shared. 

Yosemite has imposed Photo on the new laptop. How do I get iPhoto to 
replace it?  ( The laptops share the data file on Time Capsule, so I 
have moved some things that way)

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist

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#76699

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-06-16 12:35 -0400
Message-ID<160620151235407328%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#76698
In article <drache-231E4C.11330116062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> Yosemite has imposed Photo on the new laptop. How do I get iPhoto to 
> replace it?  ( The laptops share the data file on Time Capsule, so I 
> have moved some things that way)

iphoto is still there.

however, photos is better, although that isn't saying much.

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#76872

From"John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net>
Date2015-06-20 01:11 +0000
Message-ID<51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-U6sy0BBkZKY6@localhost>
In reply to#76699
On Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:35:40 UTC, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> 
wrote:

> In article <drache-231E4C.11330116062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>,
> erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > Yosemite has imposed Photo on the new laptop. How do I get iPhoto to 
> > replace it?  ( The laptops share the data file on Time Capsule, so I 
> > have moved some things that way)
> 
> iphoto is still there.
> 
> however, photos is better, although that isn't saying much.

You might find Photos better if you never use Places or an external 
editor or any of a half-dozen other things.

-- 
John Varela

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#76701

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-06-16 12:54 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1506161220330.43505@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#76698
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On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 11:33 -0500, 
 in article <drache-231E4C.11330116062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, 
 erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

> In article <51W5y0sPNk52-pn2-GO9LCym5c6nl@localhost>,
>  "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> wrote:

>> On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 00:49:23 UTC, erilar 
>> <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:

>>> Is there a way to get it into a laptop cursed with Yosemite?

It isn't Yosemite which is cursed; PEBCAK.

You skipped over three version of OS X, yet you expect Yosemite 
(10.10.x) to operate exactly as Snow Leopard (10.6.x).  Get over it and 
please try to move forward, rather remaining stuck in a rut and 
complaining that you cannot get out.

>> If by "it" you mean iPhoto, I haven't had any problem running it 
>> under Yosemite. If you mean iMovie HD, that won't run so I have a 
>> Snow Leopard partition on an external drive that I use to work with 
>> movies. Apps running from the external drive can access files in
>> [Mac hard drive]/Users/Shared. 

> Yosemite has imposed Photo on the new laptop. How do I get iPhoto to 
> replace it?  ( The laptops share the data file on Time Capsule, so I 
> have moved some things that way)

erilar, you only /think/ you want to replace Photos on your new box.  
As Photos is part of Yosemite, you do not want to fuck with it.  
Leave it alone.  Don't use it, if that's your choice, but DO NOT 
attempt to remove it.

You can copy iPhoto from an OS X 10.9.x installation, into your 
Applications directory, via a network connection or a direct 
connection between the two machine where one is booted into target 
mode (if that's still possible).  As you've demonstrated, these 
techniques are beyond your skill set.  Contact your local "Mac Expert" 
and ask whether they can perform either of these techniques for you.

iPhoto and Photos can coexist under Yosemite.  One can use iPhoto, but 
changes may not be saved to your photo library.  This will likely be 
the case, even if you manage to remove /Applications/Photos.app from 
your new computer, Woden forbid.

It really is time for you to attempt to move on, rather than wishing 
for the past to magically become the present and future.  It ain't 
gonna happen.

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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#76702

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2015-06-16 14:21 -0400
Message-ID<160620151421549775%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#76701
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1506161220330.43505@mako.ath.cx>, David
Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

> You can copy iPhoto from an OS X 10.9.x installation, into your 
> Applications directory, via a network connection or a direct 
> connection between the two machine where one is booted into target 
> mode (if that's still possible). 

no need to copy anything, since iphoto is still there.

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#76703

FromDavid Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
Date2015-06-16 14:57 -0500
Message-ID<alpine.OSX.2.20.1506161424520.43505@mako.ath.cx>
In reply to#76702
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On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 14:21 -0400, 
 in article <160620151421549775%nospam@nospam.invalid>, 
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1506161220330.43505@mako.ath.cx>, 
>  David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote:

<restored>
>> On Tuesday, 16 June 2015 11:33 -0500, 
>>  in article <drache-231E4C.11330116062015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, 
>>  erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
[...]
>>> Is there a way to get it [iPhoto] into a laptop cursed with 
>>> Yosemite?
[...]
>>> Yosemite has imposed Photo on the new laptop. How do I get iPhoto to 
>>> replace it?  ( The laptops share the data file on Time Capsule, so I 
>>> have moved some things that way)
</restored>

>> You can copy iPhoto from an OS X 10.9.x installation, into your 
>> Applications directory, via a network connection or a direct 
>> connection between the two machine where one is booted into target 
>> mode (if that's still possible). 

> no need to copy anything, since iphoto is still there.

Please do try to read for comprehension.

You seem to have missed the part regarding erilar having a new 
machine, which came with OS X 10.10.x on it, hence all the whining 
about Yosemite not being Snow Leopard.  As such, it doesn't have 
iPhoto installed.  Additionally, eliar's old iPhoto, from OS X 10.6.x, 
will likely not run on the new box.

It is because of these _facts_ that I suggested trying to copy iPhoto 
from a machine which has the most recent version of iPhoto installed.  
In retrospect, I could have as easily suggested copying it from any 
running a version of OS X, on which the most recent version of iPhoto 
(9.6.1) will run on Intel hardware.

Even so, it's possible erilar will encounter registration issues for 
the software.  Changes, in the way things are done, have occurred over 
the past decade or so.  %\

-- 
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
 Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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