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Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite

Started byOtto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com>
First post2015-01-12 18:41 -0800
Last post2015-01-13 15:06 -0500
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  Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite Otto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com> - 2015-01-12 18:41 -0800
    Re: Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-13 18:26 +1300
    Re: Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-01-13 00:35 -0500
      Re: Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-01-13 19:03 +1300
        Re: Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2015-01-13 15:06 -0500

#68328 — Migrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite

FromOtto Pylot <otto@bogus.address.com>
Date2015-01-12 18:41 -0800
SubjectMigrating Apps from Mavericks to Yosemite
Message-ID<120120151841194205%otto@bogus.address.com>
My wife's MacBook died (video cable) so it was a good time to buy a new
laptop. She gets my mid-2011 MacBook Air (Mavericks) and I have a new
MacBook Air (Yosemite) on order. I don't use Time Machine but do have
my Mavericks Air backed up via CCC on an external HD.

Moving/reinstalling apps is fairly straight forward but my concern is
Mail. When I moved up from the old MacBook to the Air, I used Migration
Assistant and that was a real mess. It took Apple about an hour to get
my Mail folders, etc migrated successfully to the new Air and setup the
way I wanted. Being as I'm starting with a brand new, and clean system
(Yosemite) I'd like to keep it that way and not move any items I don't
want or have any use for. All I see is the Mail app in the Applications
Folder and can't find anything else Mail-related that I could copy
over. I don't even see a plist for Mail.

Is there a way to copy/paste my Mail folder to Yosemite so that all my
received/sent mail and mail folders are still intact? Should I just
create new folders and then copy/paste the contents from Mavericks to
Yosemite, including my received/sent emails?

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replacing invalid with sonic.

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#68333

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-13 18:26 +1300
Message-ID<130120151826088100%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68328
In article <120120151841194205%otto@bogus.address.com>, Otto Pylot
<otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> 
> My wife's MacBook died (video cable) so it was a good time to buy a new
> laptop. She gets my mid-2011 MacBook Air (Mavericks) and I have a new
> MacBook Air (Yosemite) on order. I don't use Time Machine but do have
> my Mavericks Air backed up via CCC on an external HD.
> 
> Moving/reinstalling apps is fairly straight forward but my concern is
> Mail. When I moved up from the old MacBook to the Air, I used Migration
> Assistant and that was a real mess. It took Apple about an hour to get
> my Mail folders, etc migrated successfully to the new Air and setup the
> way I wanted. Being as I'm starting with a brand new, and clean system
> (Yosemite) I'd like to keep it that way and not move any items I don't
> want or have any use for. All I see is the Mail app in the Applications
> Folder and can't find anything else Mail-related that I could copy
> over. I don't even see a plist for Mail.
> 
> Is there a way to copy/paste my Mail folder to Yosemite so that all my
> received/sent mail and mail folders are still intact? Should I just
> create new folders and then copy/paste the contents from Mavericks to
> Yosemite, including my received/sent emails?

You shouldn't use Migration Assistant. You should instead use the
migration options in Set-up Assistant the very first time you start up
the new Mac.

If you create a user on a new Mac and then later use Migration
Assistant, things can get very messy.

The best option would be to leave your existing account with the old
emails (as well as all the other old files you rarely or never use) on
the old MacBook, and set-up a new account for your wife to use. Set-up
the same folder heirarcy on the new laptop. If you *really* need an old
email you can easily look it up or forward it from the old laptop then.

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#68334

FromM-M <nospam@ny.more>
Date2015-01-13 00:35 -0500
Message-ID<130120150035437899%nospam@ny.more>
In reply to#68328
In article <120120151841194205%otto@bogus.address.com>, Otto Pylot
<otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:

> My wife's MacBook died (video cable) so it was a good time to buy a new
> laptop. She gets my mid-2011 MacBook Air (Mavericks) and I have a new
> MacBook Air (Yosemite) on order. I don't use Time Machine but do have
> my Mavericks Air backed up via CCC on an external HD.
> 
> Moving/reinstalling apps is fairly straight forward but my concern is
> Mail. When I moved up from the old MacBook to the Air, I used Migration
> Assistant and that was a real mess. It took Apple about an hour to get
> my Mail folders, etc migrated successfully to the new Air and setup the
> way I wanted. Being as I'm starting with a brand new, and clean system
> (Yosemite) I'd like to keep it that way and not move any items I don't
> want or have any use for. All I see is the Mail app in the Applications
> Folder and can't find anything else Mail-related that I could copy
> over. I don't even see a plist for Mail.
> 
> Is there a way to copy/paste my Mail folder to Yosemite so that all my
> received/sent mail and mail folders are still intact? Should I just
> create new folders and then copy/paste the contents from Mavericks to
> Yosemite, including my received/sent emails?


Why not use CCC the way it's supposed to work- start from the external
and clone it right back to the new machine? 

Or if you don't like the idea of wiping your new machine, plug in your
external the first time you start the new machine and use Migration
Assistant. It really does work well. I don't know why you had problems
before. You shouldn't have to move anything. Just when you start the
new machine, create a test user- don't use the username that you have
on the external. You can delete the test user later.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#68335

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2015-01-13 19:03 +1300
Message-ID<130120151903000814%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#68334
In article <130120150035437899%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
wrote:
> In article <120120151841194205%otto@bogus.address.com>, Otto Pylot
> <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> >
> > My wife's MacBook died (video cable) so it was a good time to buy a new
> > laptop. She gets my mid-2011 MacBook Air (Mavericks) and I have a new
> > MacBook Air (Yosemite) on order. I don't use Time Machine but do have
> > my Mavericks Air backed up via CCC on an external HD.
> > 
> > Moving/reinstalling apps is fairly straight forward but my concern is
> > Mail. When I moved up from the old MacBook to the Air, I used Migration
> > Assistant and that was a real mess. It took Apple about an hour to get
> > my Mail folders, etc migrated successfully to the new Air and setup the
> > way I wanted. Being as I'm starting with a brand new, and clean system
> > (Yosemite) I'd like to keep it that way and not move any items I don't
> > want or have any use for. All I see is the Mail app in the Applications
> > Folder and can't find anything else Mail-related that I could copy
> > over. I don't even see a plist for Mail.
> > 
> > Is there a way to copy/paste my Mail folder to Yosemite so that all my
> > received/sent mail and mail folders are still intact? Should I just
> > create new folders and then copy/paste the contents from Mavericks to
> > Yosemite, including my received/sent emails?
> 
> Why not use CCC the way it's supposed to work- start from the external
> and clone it right back to the new machine? 

That would be very silly ... you'd be copying the old Mavericks over
the top of the new Yosemite, and possibly causing the new MacBook Air
to no longer boot.

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#68378

FromM-M <nospam@ny.more>
Date2015-01-13 15:06 -0500
Message-ID<130120151506566801%nospam@ny.more>
In reply to#68335
In article <130120151903000814%YourName@YourISP.com>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <130120150035437899%nospam@ny.more>, M-M <nospam@ny.more>
> wrote:
> > In article <120120151841194205%otto@bogus.address.com>, Otto Pylot
> > <otto@bogus.address.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > My wife's MacBook died (video cable) so it was a good time to buy a new
> > > laptop. She gets my mid-2011 MacBook Air (Mavericks) and I have a new
> > > MacBook Air (Yosemite) on order. I don't use Time Machine but do have
> > > my Mavericks Air backed up via CCC on an external HD.
> > > 
> > > Moving/reinstalling apps is fairly straight forward but my concern is
> > > Mail. When I moved up from the old MacBook to the Air, I used Migration
> > > Assistant and that was a real mess. It took Apple about an hour to get
> > > my Mail folders, etc migrated successfully to the new Air and setup the
> > > way I wanted. Being as I'm starting with a brand new, and clean system
> > > (Yosemite) I'd like to keep it that way and not move any items I don't
> > > want or have any use for. All I see is the Mail app in the Applications
> > > Folder and can't find anything else Mail-related that I could copy
> > > over. I don't even see a plist for Mail.
> > > 
> > > Is there a way to copy/paste my Mail folder to Yosemite so that all my
> > > received/sent mail and mail folders are still intact? Should I just
> > > create new folders and then copy/paste the contents from Mavericks to
> > > Yosemite, including my received/sent emails?
> > 
> > Why not use CCC the way it's supposed to work- start from the external
> > and clone it right back to the new machine? 
> 
> That would be very silly ... you'd be copying the old Mavericks over
> the top of the new Yosemite, and possibly causing the new MacBook Air
> to no longer boot.

The latest Air will run 10.8. Then just upgrade to 10.10. Or use MA the
way it's supposed to work.

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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