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  OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-09 19:44 -0400
    Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-07-09 17:29 -0700
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 01:06 +0000
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-09 21:56 -0400
    Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 01:05 +0000
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-10 02:55 +0000
    Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-07-09 19:18 -0700
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 05:09 +0000
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-07-09 22:18 -0700
        Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-07-09 22:30 -0700
          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-10 09:13 -0400
            Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-11 08:36 +1000
              Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-10 20:24 -0400
                Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-11 00:46 +0000
                Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-07-11 16:29 +1000
    Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-07-10 01:08 -0400
      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 05:31 +0000
        Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera M-M <nospam@ny.more> - 2014-07-10 01:49 -0400
          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 14:28 +0000
        Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-10 07:31 +0000
          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-10 14:50 +0000
            Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-11 07:20 +0000
              Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-11 14:01 +0000
                Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-11 18:04 +0000
                  Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-11 18:29 +0000
                    Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-12 15:03 +0000
                      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-12 15:48 +0000
                        Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-07-12 10:58 -0700
                          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-12 18:16 +0000
                        Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-07-13 07:42 +0000
                          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-07-13 08:17 -0700
                            Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-07-13 16:22 -0400
                          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-13 15:22 +0000
                          Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-13 15:26 +0000
                            Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-07-13 08:37 -0700
                              Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-07-13 11:10 -0500
                      Re: OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-07-12 14:44 -0400

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#62120 — OT: Looking for Remote WiFi Time-Lapse Camera

I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
location has a fast wireless Internet connection.

I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
by me would be sufficient.

The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.

Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
server.

TIA!

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you will say in your entire life.

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#62121

In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
> 
> I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> by me would be sufficient.
> 
> The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
> 
> Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> server.
> 
> TIA!

Given those requirements, I can't recommend one for you, but I can steer 
you AWAY from anything bearing the "TrendNet" name. They're not just 
"not-so-friendly" to Mac - I teeter on a razor edge on whether I should 
just come right out and bluntly call them actively Mac-hostile.

With some code I've been hacking on, TrendNet cameras *CAN* be used with 
a Mac, but "out of the box", forget it - If you're able to eyeball a 
still image in their provided web interface from a Mac, you're doing 
good. It's not impossible, but it isn't anywhere near as simple as it 
should be. As far as controlling the camera from a Mac, or looking at a 
live stream, you can just plain forget those concepts entirely - They 
supposedly provide a Java-based method for doing so, (with an ActiveX 
version for Windows folk) but there's a catch - namely, that they didn't 
bother to actually install the Java app into the on-board web server - 
Thus, the best result you'll get when you try to use it is either a 
timeout or a "404 - Not Found". Their customer service (so-called...) 
isn't even slightly interested in assisting Mac folks - "You should use 
a Windows computer - We don't like Macs around here" is a direct quote 
from one of their CS people to me when I finally managed to actually get 
a human on the line a few months back. A feat that required several days 
of try and retry.

Needless to say, I won't recommend them to anybody, but most especially 
not a Mac user.

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#62123

On 2014-07-10, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
>> location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
>> 
>> I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
>> by me would be sufficient.
>> 
>> The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
>> through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
>> viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
>> 
>> Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
>> server.
>> 
>> TIA!
>
> Given those requirements, I can't recommend one for you, but I can steer 
> you AWAY from anything bearing the "TrendNet" name. They're not just 
> "not-so-friendly" to Mac - I teeter on a razor edge on whether I should 
> just come right out and bluntly call them actively Mac-hostile.

Check out AXIS network cameras - highly recommended:

<http://www.axis.com/products/video/camera/>

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#62124

Don Bruder:
> Given those requirements, I can't recommend one for you, but I can steer 
> you AWAY from anything bearing the "TrendNet" name...

Thanks. What not to buy is also useful information.

-- 
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you will say in your entire life.

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#62122

On 2014-07-09, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
> I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
>
> I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> by me would be sufficient.
>
> The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
>
> Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> server.

Most AXIS network cameras fit this description nicely. I use their
cameras to do precisely what you describe and love mine:

<http://www.axis.com/products/video/camera/>

It occurs you may never see this post since you kill all of my posts.
Oh well. Your loss.

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#62126

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 10 Jul 2014 01:05:13 GMT <c26769FntgaU1@mid.individual.net>
> On 2014-07-09, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:

> [Lots of useful stuff]

> It occurs you may never see this post since you kill all of my posts.
> Oh well. Your loss.

Excellent!

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#62125

In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
> 
> I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> by me would be sufficient.
> 
> The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
> 
> Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> server.
> 
> TIA!

I recommend Axis too.  They're buggy and complicated, but they are 
powerful and you can get them to work.

Avoid Hikvision cameras.  They have amazing specifications at a great 
price but their firmware is garbage.  About the only way you'll get them 
working is with a dedicated Windows server running their custom 
software.  SMB, RTSP, FTP, SMTP, and all the other open standards 
buzzwords don't work.  Watch out for anything that LOOKS like a 
Hikvision camera, because they're often rebranded.  (TrendNet's camera 
is made by Hikvision)

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#62127

On 2014-07-10, Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
>
> I recommend Axis too.  They're buggy and complicated, but they are 
> powerful and you can get them to work.

Yeah. One of mine occasionally stops responding to network requests and
needs to be power cycled. Haven't figured out why just yet. And setting
them up involves tethering them to a computer via Ethernet to get the
wireless stuff set up through a clunky web interface. But as you said,
they are quite powerful, leverage standard protocols, and generally have
good image quality compared to cheaper options.

> Avoid Hikvision cameras.  They have amazing specifications at a great 
> price but their firmware is garbage.  About the only way you'll get them 
> working is with a dedicated Windows server running their custom 
> software.  SMB, RTSP, FTP, SMTP, and all the other open standards 
> buzzwords don't work.  Watch out for anything that LOOKS like a 
> Hikvision camera, because they're often rebranded.  (TrendNet's camera 
> is made by Hikvision)

Good to know. Thanks!

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#62129

In article <mcmurtrie-20B31C.19184109072014@news.sonic.net>,
 Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:

> In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> > location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
> > 
> > I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> > by me would be sufficient.
> > 
> > The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> > through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> > viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
> > 
> > Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> > server.
> > 
> > TIA!
> 
> I recommend Axis too.  They're buggy and complicated, but they are 
> powerful and you can get them to work.
> 
> Avoid Hikvision cameras.  They have amazing specifications at a great 
> price but their firmware is garbage.  About the only way you'll get them 
> working is with a dedicated Windows server running their custom 
> software.  SMB, RTSP, FTP, SMTP, and all the other open standards 
> buzzwords don't work.  Watch out for anything that LOOKS like a 
> Hikvision camera, because they're often rebranded.  (TrendNet's camera 
> is made by Hikvision)

That tidbit is new info to me. I wasn't aware that Hikvision/TrendNet 
were interchangeable. I wonder if I'd get any better response if I tried 
talking straight to Hikvision instead of TrendNet? Have to look into 
that...

I suspect that the hacked-together app I've done for the TrendNet 
TV-IP400 would control the Hikvision equivalent, too - I've achieved 
pan/tilt control, and can either time-lapse still images, as David was 
asking about, or view the live stream with it. Haven't gotten to putting 
in the code to handle the preset capability, though I don't think it'd 
be too difficult - I've got the info needed, just need to turn it into 
actual code. Wouldn't be too hard to do the zoom (that TrendNet CLAIMS 
to have - They just don't mention that it's pure digital "make each 
pixel bigger at display time" rather than an optical zoom) function, 
either. Haven't done anything with the "email/FTP the image to 
someplace" functionality that's supposed to be built in, but again, I've 
got the info, so it should basically just need to be stuffed in.

-- 
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#62130

In article <lpl7ni$qu9$1@dont-email.me>, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> 
wrote:

> In article <mcmurtrie-20B31C.19184109072014@news.sonic.net>,
>  Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote:
> 
> > In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> > > location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
> > > 
> > > I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> > > by me would be sufficient.
> > > 
> > > The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> > > through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> > > viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
> > > 
> > > Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> > > server.
> > > 
> > > TIA!
> > 
> > I recommend Axis too.  They're buggy and complicated, but they are 
> > powerful and you can get them to work.
> > 
> > Avoid Hikvision cameras.  They have amazing specifications at a great 
> > price but their firmware is garbage.  About the only way you'll get them 
> > working is with a dedicated Windows server running their custom 
> > software.  SMB, RTSP, FTP, SMTP, and all the other open standards 
> > buzzwords don't work.  Watch out for anything that LOOKS like a 
> > Hikvision camera, because they're often rebranded.  (TrendNet's camera 
> > is made by Hikvision)
> 
> That tidbit is new info to me. I wasn't aware that Hikvision/TrendNet 
> were interchangeable. I wonder if I'd get any better response if I tried 
> talking straight to Hikvision instead of TrendNet? Have to look into 
> that...
> 
> I suspect that the hacked-together app I've done for the TrendNet 
> TV-IP400 would control the Hikvision equivalent, too - I've achieved 
> pan/tilt control, and can either time-lapse still images, as David was

Grrrr, Bad spellchecker! No biscuit! I meant Davoud, dammit!
 
> asking about, or view the live stream with it. Haven't gotten to putting 
> in the code to handle the preset capability, though I don't think it'd 
> be too difficult - I've got the info needed, just need to turn it into 
> actual code. Wouldn't be too hard to do the zoom (that TrendNet CLAIMS 
> to have - They just don't mention that it's pure digital "make each 
> pixel bigger at display time" rather than an optical zoom) function, 
> either. Haven't done anything with the "email/FTP the image to 
> someplace" functionality that's supposed to be built in, but again, I've 
> got the info, so it should basically just need to be stuffed in.

-- 
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#62138

Don Bruder:
> > ...as David was...

> Grrrr, Bad spellchecker! No biscuit! I meant Davoud, dammit!

Well, since my sig reveals that my real name is David, this is not a
big deal. Unlike man Internet cowards, I never intentionally post
anything without somehow including my real name. It's in my e-mail
address below: David Illig.

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#62150

In article <100720140913527579%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Unlike man Internet cowards, I never intentionally post
> anything without somehow including my real name. It's in my e-mail
> address below: David Illig.

How the hell do we know? Perhaps yopu protest too much. You do a lot 
of boasting (in this and other posts) for a man that seems so chuffed 
with reality and honesty. I too use my real name. It was given to me 
by my minders on the planet where I was made before I was sent to deal 
with the likes of you on earth.

-- 
dorayme

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#62151

Davoud:
> > ...I never intentionally post anything without somehow including my real name.
> > It's in my e-mail address below: David Illig.

dorayme:
> How the hell do we know...
> ...You do a lot of boasting...

How do we know anything? How do *I* know who I am? I believe that gets
into the philosophical area called epistemology, the study of knowledge
and distinguishing between justified belief and mere opinion. For
someone who boasts a lot, I am very quick to declare that I have
virtually no knowledge of epistemology. When I say that I am ignorant
about something, that is never a boast.

Perhaps you could look at davidillig.com or primordial-light.com or
flickr.com/photos/primeval, all of which contain photos of me. Perhaps
my favorite is this one
<http://www.primordial-light.com/macastronomer.html#couple>. It was
made about nine years ago, though.

My nature photos appear on the Encyclopedia of Life and Maryland
Biodiversity Project web sites, and you may find my photo of
Diestrammena asynamora in the Kaufman Field Guide to Nature of New
England, published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, and available from
Amazon and other on-line sellers.

You would probably say that I'm boasting, while I would say that from
the epistemological viewpoint the above statements are simple facts,
demonstrably true.

Still, that doesn't /prove/ what my name is. I have three or four
expired U.S. diplomatic passports, souvenirs from a different life,
which prove my identity to the satisfaction of the U.S.G., but I cannot
post reproductions of those for security reasons. I'm in on-line phone
listings, an on-line State of Maryland real-property database, and
other on-line sources. I am /not/ the David Illig who appealed a
second-degree murder conviction in the State of Nebraska.

So, if you don't accept my claim as to who I am, you will just have to
go through life wondering. There aren't many other David Illigs in the
country, but there are a few. BTW, if you're googling, I'm not the
hypnotist, either. Try astrophotography, nature photography,
woodworking, that sort of thing.

And I do consider it both cowardly and rude to hide behind an alias.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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#62152

On 2014-07-11, Davoud <star@sky.net> wrote:
>
> And I do consider it both cowardly and rude to hide behind an alias.

Hear that? That's the sound of millions of tiny violins, playing just
for little, old you. Aren't you special!

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#62159

In article <100720142024141161%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net> 
wrote:

> Davoud:
> > > ...I never intentionally post anything without somehow including my real 
> > > name.
> > > It's in my e-mail address below: David Illig.
> 
> dorayme:
> > How the hell do we know...
> > ...You do a lot of boasting...
> 
> How do we know anything? 

That is not really relevant because we can assume the criteria for 
this.

> How do *I* know who I am? 

And now, this is *quite* irrelevant. The question is not about you! Of 
course, you find it difficult to comprehend this, narcissistic 
characters tend to have difficulty hereabouts.

> I believe that gets
> into the philosophical area called epistemology, the study of knowledge
> and distinguishing between justified belief and mere opinion. For
> someone who boasts a lot, I am very quick to declare that I have
> virtually no knowledge of epistemology. When I say that I am ignorant
> about something, that is never a boast.
>

Bullshit, of course. By admitting things (in your case, naively, what 
is the bleeding obvious) you are hoping to gain brownie points for 
appearing reasonable. It is a known technique the guilty use in their 
defence in court.
 
> Perhaps you could look at...  photos of me. Perhaps
> my favorite is ...

Maaaate... perhaps you could take your pants down and wank in front of 
a mirror.

> 
> My nature photos appear on the Encyclopedia of...and you may find 
> my photo of
> ... published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, and available from
> Amazon and other on-line sellers and blah blah fucking blah...
> 
> You would probably say that I'm boasting, 

You don't say!

> while I would say that from
> the epistemological viewpoint the above statements are simple facts,
> demonstrably true.
>

There is no known thing called the epistemological viewpoint. Facts do 
not need a wanky viewpoint. Perhaps they get a viewpoint when pointed 
out by a wanker.
 
> Still, that doesn't /prove/ what my name is.

So why bother protesting you are so authentic and uncowardly.

> So, if you don't accept my claim as to who I am, you will just have to
> go through life wondering. 

There's that illness of narcissism showing its ugly head again. As if 
anyone except you would have no better things to do! The cheek of it! 

> 
> And I do consider it both cowardly and rude to hide behind an alias.

I agree, so don't! And if you do, don't protest your innocence too 
much. You can't fool me, I have men on the ground everywhere checking 
up on things.

Now where is that troll, Sandman?

-- 
dorayme

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#62128

In article <090720141944460673%star@sky.net>, Davoud <star@sky.net>
wrote:

> I'm looking for a color camera to monitor a remote location. The
> location has a fast wireless Internet connection.
> 
> I don't need streaming video; still photos at time intervals specified
> by me would be sufficient.
> 
> The camera must upload to a web page directly (without having to go
> through a computer on the camera end) so that uploaded images may be
> viewed from any web-enabled device at any remote location.
> 
> Camera setup must be doable from a Mac, preferably from a built-in web
> server.
> 
> TIA!


Have you looked at Dropcam? You can make a time-lapse video of any
period of time and have that video be 30, 60, 90 or 120 seconds long.

Here is a 30 sec infrared timelapse of a deer eating my garden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPvFJbV1Fs

Here is one sunrise to moonset in one minute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWuJlwWWbA

-- 
m-m
http://www.mhmyers.com

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#62131

On 2014-07-10, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>
> Have you looked at Dropcam? You can make a time-lapse video of any
> period of time and have that video be 30, 60, 90 or 120 seconds long.
>
> Here is a 30 sec infrared timelapse of a deer eating my garden:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPvFJbV1Fs
>
> Here is one sunrise to moonset in one minute:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWuJlwWWbA

The thing that worries me about DropCam is the fact that Google now owns
them, and Google's number one interest is gathering personal data abut
its customers. We see it happening with Nest already. 

I haven't looked at DropCam's products in depth, but if connecting them
to the WAN is a requirement for full network camera functionality that
you get with other network cameras, that would certainly be a deal
breaker for me.

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#62132

In article <c26mqdFqnqhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
<jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2014-07-10, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> >
> > Have you looked at Dropcam? You can make a time-lapse video of any
> > period of time and have that video be 30, 60, 90 or 120 seconds long.
> >
> > Here is a 30 sec infrared timelapse of a deer eating my garden:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPvFJbV1Fs
> >
> > Here is one sunrise to moonset in one minute:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWuJlwWWbA
> 
> The thing that worries me about DropCam is the fact that Google now owns
> them, and Google's number one interest is gathering personal data abut
> its customers. We see it happening with Nest already. 
> 
> I haven't looked at DropCam's products in depth, but if connecting them
> to the WAN is a requirement for full network camera functionality that
> you get with other network cameras, that would certainly be a deal
> breaker for me.

Don't know if this would be comforting to you, but here is what Dropcam
says about it:

"Dropcam uses bank-level security to ensure that your live and stored
video are safe, even on open wireless networks. Your video is encrypted
on the camera before it is transmitted to the cloud and streamed
securely to your devices using SSL encryption. By default all video is
private and you control sharing rights."

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#62141

On 2014-07-10, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
> In article <c26mqdFqnqhU1@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2014-07-10, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>> >
>> > Have you looked at Dropcam? You can make a time-lapse video of any
>> > period of time and have that video be 30, 60, 90 or 120 seconds long.
>> >
>> > Here is a 30 sec infrared timelapse of a deer eating my garden:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPvFJbV1Fs
>> >
>> > Here is one sunrise to moonset in one minute:
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWuJlwWWbA
>> 
>> The thing that worries me about DropCam is the fact that Google now owns
>> them, and Google's number one interest is gathering personal data abut
>> its customers. We see it happening with Nest already. 
>> 
>> I haven't looked at DropCam's products in depth, but if connecting them
>> to the WAN is a requirement for full network camera functionality that
>> you get with other network cameras, that would certainly be a deal
>> breaker for me.
>
> Don't know if this would be comforting to you, but here is what Dropcam
> says about it:
>
> "Dropcam uses bank-level security to ensure that your live and stored
> video are safe, even on open wireless networks. Your video is encrypted
> on the camera before it is transmitted to the cloud and streamed
> securely to your devices using SSL encryption. By default all video is
> private and you control sharing rights."

Nest said similar things before going back on their word. 

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#62137

Okay, so one time? In band camp? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> was all, like: 
 --> 	 10 Jul 2014 05:31:57 GMT <c26mqdFqnqhU1@mid.individual.net>
> On 2014-07-10, M-M <nospam@ny.more> wrote:
>>
>> Have you looked at Dropcam? You can make a time-lapse video of any
>> period of time and have that video be 30, 60, 90 or 120 seconds long.
>>
>> Here is a 30 sec infrared timelapse of a deer eating my garden:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmPvFJbV1Fs
>>
>> Here is one sunrise to moonset in one minute:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PWuJlwWWbA

> The thing that worries me about DropCam is the fact that Google now owns
> them, and Google's number one interest is gathering personal data abut
> its customers. We see it happening with Nest already. 

We do?

> I haven't looked at DropCam's products in depth, but if connecting them
> to the WAN is a requirement for full network camera functionality that
> you get with other network cameras, that would certainly be a deal
> breaker for me.

Um... what? How do you expect them to be network cameras if they don't
connect to a WAN? Or do you mean LAN only, because that seems of little
utility to me. The reason I want a camera is so I can check on the house
remotely.


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