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Re: WWDC

From android <here@there.was>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: WWDC
Date 2018-05-25 08:05 +0200
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On 2018-05-25 03:50:21 +0000, Your Name said:

> On 2018-05-24 21:19:49 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
>> On May 24, 2018, Your Name wrote
>> (in article <pe79sf$1b9j$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
>>> On 2018-05-24 17:40:07 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
>>>> On May 23, 2018, Lewis wrote
>>>> (in article <slrnpgbs4o.2dfd.g.kreme@Snow.local>):
>>>>> In message<GG8NC.1897$Kp4.1381@fx43.iad>  JF
>>>>> Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
>>>>>> On 2018-05-22 22:16, Peter Kozlov wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd like a screen based keyboard so it can change language easily and
>>>>>>> office other kinds of controls for software. No more moving parts.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ideally, mechannical keyboard as we know it, but keycaps are e-rader
>>>>>> (e-ink) displays where the character can be changed by software. (so if
>>>>>> you press shiuft, the keys change to upperchase, and you get to see the
>>>>>> special characters etc).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems quite a waste when most people do not look at the keyboard when
>>>>> they type.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, let's you are bilingual and would like to easily switch between two
>>>> languages. This is effortless on the iPad and iPhone. On the Mac you have
>>>> physical keys to deal with. How about from Apple's point of view on
>>>> localization. They have to create a lot of various Macs for different
>>>> counties. It would be easier to have just one Mac. The customer chooses
>>>> their
>>>> language and the characters and layout required by that appear on the
>>>> screen.
>>>> You could have profiles where one use gets one localization and another user
>>>> gets something else entirely.
>>>> 
>>>> How about a final cut pro user. The keyboard could be transformed into the
>>>> controls for FCP. The same for music and other apps. I would to see this at
>>>> least as an option. I'd go for it. You're millage may vary.
>>> 
>>> As I posted before, such keyboards do actually exist (although
>>> expensive), but there are also keyboard overlays and key replacements
>>> that achieve the same purpose for a limited specific usages.
>> 
>> Keyboard overlays aren't a great idea in my opinion. Some alphabets are
>> larger than English and don't map well to the standard English keyboard.
> 
> Our old second-hand G4 iBook had an English keyboard, but the original 
> owner had put Asian stickers on all the keys which showed both the 
> English alphabet and whatever Asian language symbols were.

I think that OLED keys would be the swellest. My acer laptop has a 
"Nordic" keyboard with Swedish keys in white, Danish in green and 
Norwegian in red. That would be made sooo obsolete! :-)) There are 
other keyboards that I would like to be able to actually see too...
> 
> 
> 
>>> But once you've gotten used to the keyboard shortcuts, etc., you rarely
>>> actually look at the keyboard, so such options may be useful for the
>>> initial learning period, but quickly become rather pointless.
>> 
>> That's a good point.
>> 
>>> Then there's Apple's similar 'Touch Bar' gimmick that is barely used by
>>> app developers, largely because it's only available on a few laptops
>>> and will probably get dropped in a few years (if not sooner).
>> 
>> I like the touch bar. But I'd like it expanded to be the whole keyboard. :)
> 
> Well, that makes one person on the whole planet.   ;-)

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WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 09:34 -0700
  Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 12:14 -0700
  Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-22 16:30 -0400
    Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 16:46 -0400
    Re: WWDC Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-05-23 00:32 +0100
  Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 09:06 +1200
    Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 17:10 -0400
      Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:16 -0700
        Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-23 03:24 -0400
          Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 19:49 +1200
            Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 02:53 -0700
              Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 03:51 -0700
          Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 22:52 +0000
            Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 10:40 -0700
              Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 09:12 +1200
                Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 14:19 -0700
                Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 15:50 +1200
                Re: WWDC android <here@there.was> - 2018-05-25 08:05 +0200
                Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-25 07:39 -0700
                Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-26 11:13 +1200
                Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 16:18 -0700
    Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:00 -0700
  Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 02:13 +0000
    Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:30 -0700
      Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 18:35 +1200
        Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 00:48 -0700
        Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 08:46 -0400

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