Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: android Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system Subject: Re: WWDC Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 08:05:13 +0200 Organization: the center Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <0001HW.20B47E120005406170000445E2CF@news.eternal-september.org> <220520181710207306%nospam@nospam.invalid> <0001HW.20B5068800054410700005C702CF@news.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.20B730770006EED970000177C2CF@news.eternal-september.org> <0001HW.20B763F50013005C7000042CC2CF@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net FXkJPV2yOef6cnW3xYVkrg60d+Xe0c035KfB7ob15jFrwbl1nm Cancel-Lock: sha1:FUiA+KxiyU5LOGNcMQozGgsdD+U= User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:116652 On 2018-05-25 03:50:21 +0000, Your Name said: > On 2018-05-24 21:19:49 +0000, Peter Kozlov said: >> On May 24, 2018, Your Name wrote >> (in article ): >>> On 2018-05-24 17:40:07 +0000, Peter Kozlov said: >>>> On May 23, 2018, Lewis wrote >>>> (in article ): >>>>> In message JF >>>>> Mezei wrote: >>>>>> On 2018-05-22 22:16, Peter Kozlov wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd like a screen based keyboard so it can change language easily and >>>>>>> office other kinds of controls for software. No more moving parts. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ideally, mechannical keyboard as we know it, but keycaps are e-rader >>>>>> (e-ink) displays where the character can be changed by software. (so if >>>>>> you press shiuft, the keys change to upperchase, and you get to see the >>>>>> special characters etc). >>>>> >>>>> Seems quite a waste when most people do not look at the keyboard when >>>>> they type. >>>> >>>> Well, let's you are bilingual and would like to easily switch between two >>>> languages. This is effortless on the iPad and iPhone. On the Mac you have >>>> physical keys to deal with. How about from Apple's point of view on >>>> localization. They have to create a lot of various Macs for different >>>> counties. It would be easier to have just one Mac. The customer chooses >>>> their >>>> language and the characters and layout required by that appear on the >>>> screen. >>>> You could have profiles where one use gets one localization and another user >>>> gets something else entirely. >>>> >>>> How about a final cut pro user. The keyboard could be transformed into the >>>> controls for FCP. The same for music and other apps. I would to see this at >>>> least as an option. I'd go for it. You're millage may vary. >>> >>> As I posted before, such keyboards do actually exist (although >>> expensive), but there are also keyboard overlays and key replacements >>> that achieve the same purpose for a limited specific usages. >> >> Keyboard overlays aren't a great idea in my opinion. Some alphabets are >> larger than English and don't map well to the standard English keyboard. > > Our old second-hand G4 iBook had an English keyboard, but the original > owner had put Asian stickers on all the keys which showed both the > English alphabet and whatever Asian language symbols were. I think that OLED keys would be the swellest. My acer laptop has a "Nordic" keyboard with Swedish keys in white, Danish in green and Norwegian in red. That would be made sooo obsolete! :-)) There are other keyboards that I would like to be able to actually see too... > > > >>> But once you've gotten used to the keyboard shortcuts, etc., you rarely >>> actually look at the keyboard, so such options may be useful for the >>> initial learning period, but quickly become rather pointless. >> >> That's a good point. >> >>> Then there's Apple's similar 'Touch Bar' gimmick that is barely used by >>> app developers, largely because it's only available on a few laptops >>> and will probably get dropped in a few years (if not sooner). >> >> I like the touch bar. But I'd like it expanded to be the whole keyboard. :) > > Well, that makes one person on the whole planet. ;-) Two! -- teleportation kills