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On 2018-05-24 21:19:49 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
> On May 24, 2018, Your Name wrote
> (in article <pe79sf$1b9j$1@gioia.aioe.org>):
>> On 2018-05-24 17:40:07 +0000, Peter Kozlov said:
>>> On May 23, 2018, Lewis wrote
>>> (in article <slrnpgbs4o.2dfd.g.kreme@Snow.local>):
>>>> In message<GG8NC.1897$Kp4.1381@fx43.iad>  JF
>>>> Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>  wrote:
>>>>> On 2018-05-22 22:16, Peter Kozlov wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd like a screen based keyboard so it can change language easily and
>>>>>> office other kinds of controls for software. No more moving parts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ideally, mechannical keyboard as we know it, but keycaps are e-rader
>>>>> (e-ink) displays where the character can be changed by software. (so if
>>>>> you press shiuft, the keys change to upperchase, and you get to see the
>>>>> special characters etc).
>>>> 
>>>> Seems quite a waste when most people do not look at the keyboard when
>>>> they type.
>>> 
>>> Well, let's you are bilingual and would like to easily switch between two
>>> languages. This is effortless on the iPad and iPhone. On the Mac you have
>>> physical keys to deal with. How about from Apple's point of view on
>>> localization. They have to create a lot of various Macs for different
>>> counties. It would be easier to have just one Mac. The customer chooses
>>> their
>>> language and the characters and layout required by that appear on the
>>> screen.
>>> You could have profiles where one use gets one localization and another user
>>> gets something else entirely.
>>> 
>>> How about a final cut pro user. The keyboard could be transformed into the
>>> controls for FCP. The same for music and other apps. I would to see this at
>>> least as an option. I'd go for it. You're millage may vary.
>> 
>> As I posted before, such keyboards do actually exist (although
>> expensive), but there are also keyboard overlays and key replacements
>> that achieve the same purpose for a limited specific usages.
> 
> Keyboard overlays aren't a great idea in my opinion. Some alphabets are
> larger than English and don't map well to the standard English keyboard.

Our old second-hand G4 iBook had an English keyboard, but the original 
owner had put Asian stickers on all the keys which showed both the 
English alphabet and whatever Asian language symbols were.



>> But once you've gotten used to the keyboard shortcuts, etc., you rarely
>> actually look at the keyboard, so such options may be useful for the
>> initial learning period, but quickly become rather pointless.
> 
> That's a good point.
> 
>> Then there's Apple's similar 'Touch Bar' gimmick that is barely used by
>> app developers, largely because it's only available on a few laptops
>> and will probably get dropped in a few years (if not sooner).
> 
> I like the touch bar. But I'd like it expanded to be the whole keyboard. :)

Well, that makes one person on the whole planet.   ;-)

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WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 09:34 -0700
  Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 12:14 -0700
  Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-22 16:30 -0400
    Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 16:46 -0400
    Re: WWDC Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2018-05-23 00:32 +0100
  Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 09:06 +1200
    Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-22 17:10 -0400
      Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:16 -0700
        Re: WWDC JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2018-05-23 03:24 -0400
          Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 19:49 +1200
            Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 02:53 -0700
              Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 03:51 -0700
          Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 22:52 +0000
            Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 10:40 -0700
              Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 09:12 +1200
                Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-24 14:19 -0700
                Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-25 15:50 +1200
                Re: WWDC android <here@there.was> - 2018-05-25 08:05 +0200
                Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-25 07:39 -0700
                Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-26 11:13 +1200
                Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-24 16:18 -0700
    Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-22 17:00 -0700
  Re: WWDC Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-05-23 02:13 +0000
    Re: WWDC Peter Kozlov <pkoz@blacksea.design> - 2018-05-22 19:30 -0700
      Re: WWDC Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-05-23 18:35 +1200
        Re: WWDC Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-23 00:48 -0700
        Re: WWDC nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-23 08:46 -0400

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