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Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests
Date 2013-11-07 10:29 +1100
Message-ID <be01mcF5bkqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Quite interesting.  Apple is on the side of privacy.

>>>> Apple is on the side of Apple.  If they were truly on the side
>>>> of privacy, they wouldn't be trying to force iCloud on people.
>>>> Because, you know, the first step in protecting your customer's
>>>> private information is to not collect it in the first place.

>>> What makes you think that Apple is collecting
>>> private information on people?

>> They obviously are when you can only do some things
>> using icloud that used to be possible by usb and local
>> wifi when they know they get lots of requests by govt
>> for that private information.

> No, it is not at all obvious, but paranoids can't see that it isn't 
> obvious,

Nothing to do with paranoia when they have just announced the
THOUSANDS of requests for information that they have got from
govt for that private information that they have complied with.

And that doesn't even list the requests that they have got
that they have complied with that they aren't even allowed
to even say they have complied with in totals etc.

> and Apple haters will accuse Apple of it on general principles.

Separate matter entirely to what they clearly do with at least
some of that private data they do have from their users.

>> They could allow you to synch via usb or local wifi
>> and tell people that care about the privacy of their
>> private information to do it that way if they care.

Closing your eyes to that and deleting if from the
quoting won't make that very fundamental fact go away.

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Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 08:40 -0700
  Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-06 11:05 -0600
    Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 10:50 -0700
      Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 04:59 +1100
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 11:23 -0700
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 10:29 +1100
      Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2013-11-06 18:33 +0000
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 12:13 -0700
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 14:20 -0500
            Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-06 13:35 -0700
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-07 10:31 +1100
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2013-11-06 23:52 +0000
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests billy@MIX.COM - 2013-11-06 22:16 +0000
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-06 19:00 -0500
            Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-06 21:22 -0500
              Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-06 23:30 -0500
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Simon Antslinger" <sa1964@nospam.com> - 2013-11-07 15:41 +1100
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Michelle Steiner <foo@bar.com> - 2013-11-07 07:55 -0700
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 03:08 +1100
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Paul Magnussen <magiconinc@earthlink.net> - 2013-11-07 08:51 -0800
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2013-11-07 18:42 -0500
                Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Simon Antslinger" <sa1964@nospam.com> - 2013-11-08 12:21 +1100
            Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2013-11-07 17:23 +0000
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 01:31 +0000
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
      Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-07 11:08 -0600
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2013-11-08 08:58 +1300
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2013-11-08 09:12 +1100
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Doc O'Leary <droleary@6usenet2013.subsume.com> - 2013-11-08 11:36 -0600
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 20:34 +0000
    Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 01:29 +0000
      Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500
  Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 01:28 +0000
    Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Simon Antslinger" <sa1964@nospam.com> - 2013-11-07 12:54 +1100
      Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-07 20:24 +0000
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests "Simon Antslinger" <sa1964@nospam.com> - 2013-11-08 09:13 +1100
        Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-07 18:21 -0500
          Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2013-11-08 05:07 +0000
    Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2013-11-06 21:32 -0500
    Re: Apple's Report on Government Information Requests nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2013-11-06 22:40 -0500

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