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  Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 05:00 +0000
    Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-05 23:19 -0700
    Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-05 23:35 -0700
      Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 15:25 +0000
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 11:39 -0400
          Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 15:58 +0000
            Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 15:51 -0400
              Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Doc O'Leary  <droleary@2usenet2014.subsume.com> - 2015-04-07 02:38 +0000
            Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-07 09:45 -0400
              Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-07 14:35 +0000
                Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-07 12:09 -0400
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-06 09:17 -0700
          Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 18:42 +0000
            Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-06 14:07 -0700
              Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 16:04 -0700
                Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-06 16:29 -0700
                  Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 17:23 -0700
    Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2015-04-06 05:12 -0700
      Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 11:19 -0400
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 15:27 +0000
          Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 09:41 -0700
            Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2015-04-06 18:55 +0100
              Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 16:05 -0700
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-06 09:11 -0700
    Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-04-06 11:17 -0400
      Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-06 15:27 +0000
      Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-04-06 16:07 +0000
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? gtr <xxx@yyy.zzz> - 2015-04-06 09:43 -0700
        Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Robert Grimes <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-04-21 00:44 -0500
          Re: Should I go ahead and get the last Unison? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-21 05:50 +0000

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#28590 — Should I go ahead and get the last Unison?

Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of 
running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from Brian 
Clark).
Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching and 
moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader on 
the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).

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#28591

On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:

> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from Brian
> Clark).
> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching and
> moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
> I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader on
> the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).

It isn't going to trash your computer, and it is free, so you have 
nothing to lose. Unison 2.2 is OK! but I actually prefer Unison 1.8.1.

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28592

On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:

> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from Brian
> Clark).
> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching and
> moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?

It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10

> I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader on
> the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).

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#28599

On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:

> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> 
>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>> Brian Clark).
>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
> 
> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10

Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their website 
that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.

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#28602

On 2015-04-06 11:25, sctvguy1 wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>
>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>> Brian Clark).
>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>
>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>
> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their website
> that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.

Panic have given up usenet readers.  They've released 2.2 as a free 
farewell with no commitment to maintain it (or a soft maybe).
Unfortunately they screwed it up a little.

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#28603

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:39:31 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> On 2015-04-06 11:25, sctvguy1 wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>
>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>>
>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>>
>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
> 
> Panic have given up usenet readers.  They've released 2.2 as a free
> farewell with no commitment to maintain it (or a soft maybe).
> Unfortunately they screwed it up a little.

That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO NNTP 
clients?  Hell, Linux has a ton of them, Windows still have a lot, mostly 
Agent.  MacOS has always seemed to be behind on that front.  I guess that 
MacOS users are mostly into photo apps and music/video stuff and not the 
old stuff like USENET readers!  My favorite NNTP app was NR/2 that came 
with my OS/2 Warp Connect.  White text on blue background, fast and very 
readable.  No binaries, but back then, binaries were only for porn 
addicts!

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#28620

On 2015-04-06 11:58, sctvguy1 wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:39:31 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-06 11:25, sctvguy1 wrote:
>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>>
>>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>>>
>>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>>>
>>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
>>
>> Panic have given up usenet readers.  They've released 2.2 as a free
>> farewell with no commitment to maintain it (or a soft maybe).
>> Unfortunately they screwed it up a little.
>
> That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO NNTP
> clients?

'cause everyone wants to make money doing it.  Panic apparently were not 
making enough so they've dropped it.  Others have bailed as well. 
Recently someone suggested he would come up with a very nice up to date 
usenet reader but wanted crowdsource funding up front.  Not many takers.

Usenet has been in steady decline for a decade or so as fora go web based.

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#28627

For your reference, records indicate that 
Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:

> On 2015-04-06 11:58, sctvguy1 wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:39:31 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:
> >
> > That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO NNTP
> > clients?
> 
> 'cause everyone wants to make money doing it.

More correctly, they just don’t want to lose a ton of money doing it.
Development isn’t free.  Support isn’t free.

> Panic apparently were not 
> making enough so they've dropped it.

My read remains that Unison was a labor of love from someone inside Panic,
and they tried to make it available to other people at a great price for
all the features offered (provided the features they added were the same
ones you wanted), but the market just wasn’t big enough to cover the
increased support burden.  I doubt they ever came even *close* to breaking
even, never mind “making enough”.

> Recently someone suggested he would come up with a very nice up to date 
> usenet reader but wanted crowdsource funding up front.  Not many takers.

That guy was an idiot.  He knew Usenet hasn’t been popular for *years* and
yet he still spent his time writing an alpha version *actually* up front.
Now he has nothing to show for his effort except getting a good chuckle
out of how many times this thread keeps popping up.

-- 
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

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#28628

In article <mfuag2$uho$7@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> 
> That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO NNTP 
> clients?  

We were all served so well for so long by *NW that nothing else was 
needed. Until now. And now Usenet is kinda dead, and no one cares. I 
haven't seen a new Gopher client for a while either. Or Finger.
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28629

On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 09:45:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:

> In article <mfuag2$uho$7@dont-email.me>,
>  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO
>> NNTP clients?
> 
> We were all served so well for so long by *NW that nothing else was
> needed. Until now. And now Usenet is kinda dead, and no one cares. I
> haven't seen a new Gopher client for a while either. Or Finger.

How about Archie?  Would Gopher even still work?  Do they still have 
servers at the U. of Wisconsin?

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#28630

In article <mg0puq$pcl$1@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 07 Apr 2015 09:45:38 -0400, Warren Oates wrote:
> 
> > In article <mfuag2$uho$7@dont-email.me>,
> >  sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> That is what I cannot understand: why would a major OS have almost NO
> >> NNTP clients?
> > 
> > We were all served so well for so long by *NW that nothing else was
> > needed. Until now. And now Usenet is kinda dead, and no one cares. I
> > haven't seen a new Gopher client for a while either. Or Finger.
> 
> How about Archie?  Would Gopher even still work?  Do they still have 
> servers at the U. of Wisconsin?

Well, Archie was (mostly) an ftp client, and ftp is far from dead. 

Gopher is still supported in some browsers including Konqueror and 
Firefox (the latter with the OverbitFF add-on).
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#28610

On 2015-04-06 15:25:45 +0000, sctvguy1 said:

> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>> 
>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>> Brian Clark).
>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>> 
>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
> 
> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their website
> that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.

It is a total freebee.
All the releases are available:
<http://download.panic.com/unison/>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28619

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:17:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote:

> On 2015-04-06 15:25:45 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> 
>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>> 
>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>> 
>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>> 
>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
> 
> It is a total freebee.
> All the releases are available: <http://download.panic.com/unison/>

So, will ALL the releases have a free registration number?  Will the one 
provided by Panic work with even the older releases?

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#28621

On 2015-04-06 18:42:03 +0000, sctvguy1 said:

> On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:17:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-06 15:25:45 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>> 
>>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>>> 
>>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>>> 
>>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
>> 
>> It is a total freebee.
>> All the releases are available: <http://download.panic.com/unison/>
> 
> So, will ALL the releases have a free registration number?  Will the one
> provided by Panic work with even the older releases?

I certainly had registration numbers for both U1 & U2, but the current 
distribution of the dead Panic catalog does not require registration, 
there is no support, and there will not be any updates or fixes. 
Perhaps they might get the wild idea to resurrect it sometime in the 
future, but I can't see that happening any time soon. So, download the 
version(s) of your choice and see which works best for you. Try 1.8.1, 
2.1.10, & 2.2. My preference lies with 1.8.1.


Personnally I would
-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28622

On 2015-04-06 21:07:17 +0000, Savageduck said:

> On 2015-04-06 18:42:03 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
> 
>> On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:17:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-04-06 15:25:45 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>>>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
>>> 
>>> It is a total freebee.
>>> All the releases are available: <http://download.panic.com/unison/>
>> 
>> So, will ALL the releases have a free registration number?  Will the one
>> provided by Panic work with even the older releases?
> 
> I certainly had registration numbers for both U1 & U2, but the current 
> distribution of the dead Panic catalog does not require registration, 
> there is no support, and there will not be any updates or fixes. 
> Perhaps they might get the wild idea to resurrect it sometime in the 
> future, but I can't see that happening any time soon. So, download the 
> version(s) of your choice and see which works best for you. Try 1.8.1, 
> 2.1.10, & 2.2. My preference lies with 1.8.1.
> 
> 
> Personnally I would

I would too!

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#28624

On 2015-04-06 23:04:03 +0000, gtr said:

> On 2015-04-06 21:07:17 +0000, Savageduck said:
>> On 2015-04-06 18:42:03 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>> On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 09:17:14 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
>>>> On 2015-04-06 15:25:45 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>>> On Sun, 05 Apr 2015 23:35:09 -0700, gtr wrote:
>>>>>> On 2015-04-06 05:00:07 +0000, sctvguy1 said:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>>>>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>>>>>> Brian Clark).
>>>>>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>>>>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's broken in various ways: Crashes, locks up.  Get Unison 2.1.10
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would it be free with a registration number?  Panic said on their
>>>>> website that 2.2 is free with no registration number required.
>>>> 
>>>> It is a total freebee.
>>>> All the releases are available: <http://download.panic.com/unison/>
>>> 
>>> So, will ALL the releases have a free registration number?  Will the one
>>> provided by Panic work with even the older releases?
>> 
>> I certainly had registration numbers for both U1 & U2, but the current 
>> distribution of the dead Panic catalog does not require registration, 
>> there is no support, and there will not be any updates or fixes. 
>> Perhaps they might get the wild idea to resurrect it sometime in the 
>> future, but I can't see that happening any time soon. So, download the 
>> version(s) of your choice and see which works best for you. Try 1.8.1, 
>> 2.1.10, & 2.2. My preference lies with 1.8.1.
>> 
>> 
>> Personnally I would
> 
> I would too!

Sigh... I guess I hit that send button prematurely. :-(

What I intended to say was; "Personally, I would opt for 1.8.1 before 2.2."


-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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#28625

On 2015-04-06 23:29:20 +0000, Savageduck said:

>>> I certainly had registration numbers for both U1 & U2, but the current 
>>> distribution of the dead Panic catalog does not require registration, 
>>> there is no support, and there will not be any updates or fixes. 
>>> Perhaps they might get the wild idea to resurrect it sometime in the 
>>> future, but I can't see that happening any time soon. So, download the 
>>> version(s) of your choice and see which works best for you. Try 1.8.1, 
>>> 2.1.10, & 2.2. My preference lies with 1.8.1.
>>> 
>>> Personnally I would
>> 
>> I would too!
> 
> Sigh... I guess I hit that send button prematurely. :-(
> 
> What I intended to say was; "Personally, I would opt for 1.8.1 before 2.2."

For me, 2.1.10 is the sweet spot.

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#28594

In article <mft3sn$aj9$2@dont-email.me>,
 sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:

> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of 
> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from Brian 
> Clark).
> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching and 
> moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
> I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader on 
> the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).

If all you want is to read text, stick with command line tools.  The 
binary downloading in borked in 2.2, so I use 2.1.  It's the only reason 
I have Unison.

-- 
DeeDee, don't press that button!  DeeDee!  NO!  Dee...
[I filter all Goggle Groups posts, so any reply may be automatically ignored]

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#28598

On 2015-04-06 08:12, Michael Vilain wrote:
> In article <mft3sn$aj9$2@dont-email.me>,
>   sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from Brian
>> Clark).
>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching and
>> moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>> I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader on
>> the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).
>
> If all you want is to read text, stick with command line tools.  The
> binary downloading in borked in 2.2, so I use 2.1.  It's the only reason
> I have Unison.

I too found the binary DL in 2.2 to be screwed up.  Doesn't "multipart" 
properly.  I too use 2.1.1.

For text (99% of my usenet ops), Thunderbird is fine.

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#28600

On Mon, 06 Apr 2015 11:19:23 -0400, Alan Browne wrote:

> On 2015-04-06 08:12, Michael Vilain wrote:
>> In article <mft3sn$aj9$2@dont-email.me>,
>>   sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Just got my new(to me) iMac, and my old G4 Thoth is not capable of
>>> running on an Intel machine(even if I could get a new version from
>>> Brian Clark).
>>> Have been seeing all the hoopla about Unison 2.2 and all the bitching
>>> and moaning.  Is it that bad?  Is it really OK?  What's the deal?
>>> I use Pan on all my Linux machines, but wanted a graphical newsreader
>>> on the iMac when I am using it(not slrn or tin).
>>
>> If all you want is to read text, stick with command line tools.  The
>> binary downloading in borked in 2.2, so I use 2.1.  It's the only
>> reason I have Unison.
> 
> I too found the binary DL in 2.2 to be screwed up.  Doesn't "multipart"
> properly.  I too use 2.1.1.
> 
> For text (99% of my usenet ops), Thunderbird is fine.

I was thinking about just downloading Thunderbird, it is clunky, but it 
is effective.

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