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| Started by | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000 |
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back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:06 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 02:47 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 15:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 16:13 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-09 16:15 -0400
Re: back from the brink Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-10 08:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:50 +0000
Re: back from the brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-05-09 13:12 -1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-12 14:09 +1300
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 22:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 07:56 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 08:24 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:33 -0400
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 15:52 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:57 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:28 -0700
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:14 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:47 -0700
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 23:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-13 15:01 +1200
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:32 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-13 10:15 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:39 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-13 13:48 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:40 +1200
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-14 09:30 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 21:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-14 22:15 +1300
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 21:57 +1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-15 13:12 +1300
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100
Re: back from the brink "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 23:30 -0700
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300
Re: back from the brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500
Re: back from the brink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:18 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 16:08 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:32 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:35 +0000
Re: back from the brink Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-04-11 16:06 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
Re: Back From The Brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000
Re: Back From The Brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 22:15 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:42 -0400
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-04-13 18:31 -0400
Re: back from the brink "JohnT" <johnT@spamnot.com> - 2015-04-09 18:22 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:03 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 11:01 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 15:38 +0100
Re: back from the brink Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-10 08:25 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:32 -0700
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink poldy <poldy@kfu.com> - 2015-04-13 11:09 -0700
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <652584065450541795.948352drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28755 |
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > >> On 2015-04-12, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: >> >>> My personal favourite was always people who used the Trash/Recycle Bin >>> as storage for files they wanted out of the way, but still accessible, >> >> I was stunned speechless the first time I came across that. > > I recall one guy who _still_ didn't get it when I asked them if they > would store important real life files in their trash bin. One would > think the Trash was one of the most obvious metephors of the GUI > desktop, but not obvious enough for everyone, I guess :-D The Trash stays full until I'm sure I want to get rid of its contents, but I have a "strays" folder for things I just want out of the way longer term 8-) -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cr7v2cF2djqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #28652 |
On 2015-04-09, Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote: > On 4/9/2015 1:34 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2015-04-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >>> >>> I love how s/he/it blame Yosemite for s/he/it's fuckup. >> >> A bad workman always blames his tools. >> > It's remarkable how defensive the iCrowd gets about catastrophes. It has nothing at all to do with being defensive and everything to do with someone following bad advice and turning around and blaming the tools. > I've lost things and it's awful. Since I'm a computer engineer, I have the > knowledge to indulge my obsession with backups. For (computer) laymen, > the loss of data varies from a PITA to life-changing crisis. > > Erilar, you have my sympathy. I can sympathize as well since I have lost important data in the past as well. The difference is I cared enough to learn what went wrong and change my behavior to ensure it didn't happen again. I could be wrong, but that's not what seems to be happening here, since even after people have explained what she did wrong and how to fix it, she continues to blame the tools. This thread is the result. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1551288310450298482.551041drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28639 |
Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <conmorF4hngU1@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2015-04-09, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> In article >>>> <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad were wiped >>>>> clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty battle with a new >>>>> computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal with: Yosemite. I now have >>>>> to clear away the old posts here to get up to date before I leave home on >>>>> my yearly trip combo and have only Newstap on the iPad with me. >>>> >>>> only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said >>>> yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new computer, >>>> so itunes saw it as a different computer. >>> >>> It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did something >>> wrong on the backup attempt. > >> The point is someone (you or your "more capable" helper) caused your >> data to be erased from the iPad by answering "yes" to the question "This >> will delete all data from your iPad. Are you sure?" It's not something >> that just happens on its own. > > I love how s/he/it blame Yosemite for s/he/it's fuckup. > Oh, that's only one of the many things Yosemite has mucked up! -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <893497260450298394.964602drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28637 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-04-09, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> In article >>> <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >>>> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad were wiped >>>> clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty battle with a new >>>> computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal with: Yosemite. I now have >>>> to clear away the old posts here to get up to date before I leave home on >>>> my yearly trip combo and have only Newstap on the iPad with me. >>> >>> only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said >>> yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new computer, >>> so itunes saw it as a different computer. >> >> It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did something >> wrong on the backup attempt. > > The point is someone (you or your "more capable" helper) caused your > data to be erased from the iPad by answering "yes" to the question "This > will delete all data from your iPad. Are you sure?" It's not something > that just happens on its own. I think the question was something about authenticating the new computer. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <coo9slF6o8dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #28651 |
On 2015-04-09, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >> The point is someone (you or your "more capable" helper) caused your >> data to be erased from the iPad by answering "yes" to the question "This >> will delete all data from your iPad. Are you sure?" It's not something >> that just happens on its own. > > I think the question was something about authenticating the new computer. It said: The iPhone/iPad "Whatever" is synced with another iTunes library. Do you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library? An iPhone can be synced with only one iTunes library at a time. Erasing and syncing replaces the contents of this iPhone with the contents of this iTunes library." You or your helper clicked "Erase". -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1681982608450322104.520160drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28661 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-04-09, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>> The point is someone (you or your "more capable" helper) caused your >>> data to be erased from the iPad by answering "yes" to the question "This >>> will delete all data from your iPad. Are you sure?" It's not something >>> that just happens on its own. >> >> I think the question was something about authenticating the new computer. > > It said: > > The iPhone/iPad "Whatever" is synced with another iTunes library. Do > you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library? > > An iPhone can be synced with only one iTunes library at a time. Erasing > and syncing replaces the contents of this iPhone with the contents of > this iTunes library." > > You or your helper clicked "Erase". Apparently I did it without realizing it. The tech who did the computer transfer didn't have the iPad itself. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420152253113721%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28671 |
In article <1681982608450322104.520160drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> I think the question was something about authenticating the new computer. > > > > It said: > > > > The iPhone/iPad "Whatever" is synced with another iTunes library. Do > > you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library? > > > > An iPhone can be synced with only one iTunes library at a time. Erasing > > and syncing replaces the contents of this iPhone with the contents of > > this iTunes library." > > > > You or your helper clicked "Erase". > > Apparently I did it without realizing it. The tech who did the computer > transfer didn't have the iPad itself. he didn't need the ipad and he failed at properly migrating your computer. fire him.
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| From | Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <mg8gkt$3go$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #28671 |
Erilar wrote: > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2015-04-09, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> The point is someone (you or your "more capable" helper) caused your >>>> data to be erased from the iPad by answering "yes" to the question "This >>>> will delete all data from your iPad. Are you sure?" It's not something >>>> that just happens on its own. >>> >>> I think the question was something about authenticating the new computer. >> >> It said: >> >> The iPhone/iPad "Whatever" is synced with another iTunes library. Do >> you want to erase this iPhone and sync with this iTunes library? >> >> An iPhone can be synced with only one iTunes library at a time. Erasing >> and syncing replaces the contents of this iPhone with the contents of >> this iTunes library." >> >> You or your helper clicked "Erase". > > Apparently I did it without realizing it. The tech who did the computer > transfer didn't have the iPad itself. > You remind me of my sister. She'll never own up and take responsibility. I don't know what she's afraid of; probably just being considered incompetent. One thing I do know, though, is that when she does take the blame on herself everything opens up between us; as opposed to when she's beating about the bush like a silly, irresponsible little girl, when my attitude toward her hardens because she's become untrustworthy. Ed
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420151246007917%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28636 |
In article <462080671450287602.254821drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad were wiped > >> clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty battle with a new > >> computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal with: Yosemite. I now have > >> to clear away the old posts here to get up to date before I leave home on > >> my yearly trip combo and have only Newstap on the iPad with me. > > > > only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said > > yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new computer, > > so itunes saw it as a different computer. > > It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did something > wrong on the backup attempt. obviously this person was incapable, since it did not work properly.
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| From | David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504091204140.3087@mako.ath.cx> |
| In reply to | #28636 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message [ Note: Followup-To trimmed to relevant groups ] On Thursday, 09 April 2015 15:56 -0000, in article <462080671450287602.254821drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> In article <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, >> Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: >>> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad >>> were wiped clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty >>> battle with a new computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal >>> with: Yosemite. I now have to clear away the old posts here to get >>> up to date before I leave home on my yearly trip combo and have >>> only Newstap on the iPad with me. >> only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said >> yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new >> computer, so itunes saw it as a different computer. > It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did > something wrong on the backup attempt. You should be able to restore your iOS device from the automatic backups, using iTunes. Please note, your iPad must be physically plugged into the computer, from which you are attempting to perform the restore. In iTunes on your computer, using the full size window, select you iOS device, displayed the the top of the window. It's going to be a small icon, just to the right of the icons for music, videos, etc. In the Summary, there's an option to restore your iOS device, where you want to click Restore Backup. If your backups exist in your iCloud account, your documents, music and photos will not be restored, as only basic things like system files and preferences are being backed up remotely. If you've been backing up your iOS device to your computer, everything should be restored, including your documents, music, photos, apps and the like. See <https://help.apple.com/itunes/mac/12.1/index.html?localePath=en.lproj#/itns3280> If worse comes to worse, you may be able to restore you iPad, using iTunes on your old Mac, then performing whatever updates need to be made so that it will cooperate with OS X 10.10.x. If, on the other hand, you haven't backed up your device, you're going to have to start from scratch. While I hadn't noticed earlier, iOS 8.3 update is available. It includes security updates. <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222> Please note, not one of your self inflicted issues has anything to do with running OS X 10.10.x. PEBCAK. -- David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> Be kind to animals; kiss a shark. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlUmuoIACgkQUrwpmRoS3ushgQCfaEApFdhAPaCk+XknQEv/6M8X 0HcAniBn9sr0qvJmwhuYau6wvrtHInUS =IwYi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1232853322450298650.126801drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28642 |
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message > > [ Note: Followup-To trimmed to relevant groups ] > > On Thursday, 09 April 2015 15:56 -0000, > in article <462080671450287602.254821drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >>> In article >>> <553643483450280509.999995drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, >>> Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>>> I'm battling back from disaster-- almost all my apps on the iPad >>>> were wiped clean of all data somewhere in the middle of the nasty >>>> battle with a new computer with the worst OS I've ever had to deal >>>> with: Yosemite. I now have to clear away the old posts here to get >>>> up to date before I leave home on my yearly trip combo and have >>>> only Newstap on the iPad with me. > >>> only because itunes asked if you wanted to delete them and you said >>> yes. you apparently did not migrate the old system to the new >>> computer, so itunes saw it as a different computer. > >> It WAS migrated by someone much more capable than I, but I did >> something wrong on the backup attempt. > > You should be able to restore your iOS device from the automatic > backups, using iTunes. Please note, your iPad must be physically > plugged into the computer, from which you are attempting to perform the > restore. > > In iTunes on your computer, using the full size window, select you iOS > device, displayed the the top of the window. It's going to be a small > icon, just to the right of the icons for music, videos, etc. In the > Summary, there's an option to restore your iOS device, where you want > to click Restore Backup. > > If your backups exist in your iCloud account, your documents, music > and photos will not be restored, as only basic things like system > files and preferences are being backed up remotely. If you've been > backing up your iOS device to your computer, everything should be > restored, including your documents, music, photos, apps and the like. > > See > <https://help.apple.com/itunes/mac/12.1/index.html?localePath=en.lproj#/itns3280> > > If worse comes to worse, you may be able to restore you iPad, using > iTunes on your old Mac, then performing whatever updates need to be > made so that it will cooperate with OS X 10.10.x. > > If, on the other hand, you haven't backed up your device, you're going > to have to start from scratch. > > While I hadn't noticed earlier, iOS 8.3 update is available. It > includes security updates. <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222> > > Please note, not one of your self inflicted issues has anything to do > with running OS X 10.10.x. PEBCAK. Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite problems. The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420151708172103%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28647 |
In article <1232853322450298650.126801drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER > spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite > problems. > The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. apparently your ipad backup was not migrated to the new computer, which is why the new computer reset it. you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid money, demand a refund.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <257187097450306865.653224drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28654 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <1232853322450298650.126801drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER >> spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite >> problems. >> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. > > apparently your ipad backup was not migrated to the new computer, which > is why the new computer reset it. > > you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the > idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid > money, demand a refund. Too late now. Driving a hundred miles would not restore the content. The time is better spent retrieving or rebuilding content. The most important Pages info, for instance, existed independently in a folder on my desktop. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420151723166081%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28658 |
In article <257187097450306865.653224drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >> Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER > >> spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite > >> problems. > >> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. > > > > apparently your ipad backup was not migrated to the new computer, which > > is why the new computer reset it. > > > > you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the > > idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid > > money, demand a refund. > > Too late now. Driving a hundred miles would not restore the content. The > time is better spent retrieving or rebuilding content. The most important > Pages info, for instance, existed independently in a folder on my desktop. where is your old computer and more importantly, where are its backups?
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2127437568450322191.508066drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28660 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <257187097450306865.653224drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september. >> , Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>>> Backups were to computer, not iCloud. And the iPad problems occurred AFTER >>>> spending the morning before on the phone with Apple dealing with Yosemite >>>> problems. >>>> The iPad WAS backed up to the old laptop running SnowLeopard. >>> >>> apparently your ipad backup was not migrated to the new computer, which >>> is why the new computer reset it. >>> >>> you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the >>> idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid >>> money, demand a refund. >> >> Too late now. Driving a hundred miles would not restore the content. The >> time is better spent retrieving or rebuilding content. The most important >> Pages info, for instance, existed independently in a folder on my desktop. > > where is your old computer and more importantly, where are its backups? Three/four feet from the new one, on the dining table. I'm still using it for programs the new one doesn't have. -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <090420152253123768%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #28670 |
In article <2127437568450322191.508066drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>> you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the > >>> idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid > >>> money, demand a refund. > >> > >> Too late now. Driving a hundred miles would not restore the content. The > >> time is better spent retrieving or rebuilding content. The most important > >> Pages info, for instance, existed independently in a folder on my desktop. > > > > where is your old computer and more importantly, where are its backups? > > Three/four feet from the new one, on the dining table. I'm still using it > for programs the new one doesn't have. perfect. do a restore from the backup and you'll be back were you were before.
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| From | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <284219395450390923.086388drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #28679 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <2127437568450322191.508066drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-septembe > r.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > >>>>> you can restore the ipad from the old computer and then chastise the >>>>> idiot who claimed to have done a bad job of upgrading you. if you paid >>>>> money, demand a refund. >>>> >>>> Too late now. Driving a hundred miles would not restore the content. The >>>> time is better spent retrieving or rebuilding content. The most important >>>> Pages info, for instance, existed independently in a folder on my desktop. >>> >>> where is your old computer and more importantly, where are its backups? >> >> Three/four feet from the new one, on the dining table. I'm still using it >> for programs the new one doesn't have. > > perfect. do a restore from the backup and you'll be back were you were > before. Tried that immediately. Apps came back empty 8-( -- biblioholic medievalist
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| From | David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504101721470.33201@mako.ath.cx> |
| In reply to | #28692 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message On Friday, 10 April 2015 20:37 -0000, in article <284219395450390923.086388drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org>, Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: [ iPad is next to one or another computer ] >> perfect. do a restore from the backup and you'll be back were you >> were before. > Tried that immediately. Apps came back empty 8-( Apps are applications. They don't contain data, configurations or properties. You restored the apps, but nothing else. Now you have to go through and re-do everything from scratch. Were you expecting different results, because everything you've described suggests that no other result was possible from your actions? Get over yourself. You'll survive. -- David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> Be kind to animals; kiss a shark. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlUoTusACgkQUrwpmRoS3uvi8QCgp6BGLkt+9jbLvOJVtPYJgnG3 H08AoJ3FYJ7PALI4Z5iZXB/trq0hvgem =0wwW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <552854ee$0$1891$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #28705 |
In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504101721470.33201@mako.ath.cx>, David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message > > On Friday, 10 April 2015 20:37 -0000, > in article > <284219395450390923.086388drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> > , > Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> wrote: > > > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > [ iPad is next to one or another computer ] > > >> perfect. do a restore from the backup and you'll be back were you > >> were before. > > > Tried that immediately. Apps came back empty 8-( > > Apps are applications. They don't contain data, configurations or > properties. You restored the apps, but nothing else. Now you have to > go through and re-do everything from scratch. Were you expecting > different results, because everything you've described suggests that > no other result was possible from your actions? > > Get over yourself. You'll survive. Well, yeah, I guess. Are the prefs backed up? And the stuff in Application Support? -- Where's the Vangelis music? Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her. They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing room scene. -- notes for Blade Runner
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| From | David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504101943350.33201@mako.ath.cx> |
| In reply to | #28706 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday, 10 April 2015 18:55 -0400, in article <552854ee$0$1891$b1db1813$2411a48f@news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> wrote: > In article <alpine.OSX.2.20.1504101721470.33201@mako.ath.cx>, > David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> wrote: >> Get over yourself. You'll survive. > Well, yeah, I guess. Are the prefs backed up? And the stuff in > Application Support? Under normal circumstances, everything is backed up. In the case of Erilar, who knows? AFAICT, Erilar 'lost' his backups in the aether. Recall, PEBCAK. - -- David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> Be kind to animals; kiss a shark. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlUocPUACgkQUrwpmRoS3uvo4ACeIA44930W/xwcW8wppKT66VOF y6oAoMnb6x7dbmrX0UJBRgyW55NfNGGw =kY0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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