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Re: back from the brink

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad, comp.sys.mac.apps, rec.travel.europe, soc.history.medieval
Subject Re: back from the brink
Date 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <cr7v2cF2djqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (2 earlier) <462080671450287602.254821drache-notchibardun.net@news.eternal-september.org> <conmorF4hngU1@mid.individual.net> <slrnmidctl.9pt.g.kreme@amelia.local> <conrgmF5hdpU1@mid.individual.net> <8vidnQinf8SfQ7vInZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@supernews.com>

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On 2015-04-09, Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> On 4/9/2015 1:34 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-04-09, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>>>
>>> I love how s/he/it blame Yosemite for s/he/it's fuckup.
>>
>> A bad workman always blames his tools.
>>
> It's remarkable how defensive the iCrowd gets about catastrophes. 

It has nothing at all to do with being defensive and everything to do
with someone following bad advice and turning around and blaming the
tools.

> I've lost things and it's awful. Since I'm a computer engineer, I have the 
> knowledge to indulge my obsession with backups. For (computer) laymen, 
> the loss of data varies from a PITA to life-changing crisis.
>
> Erilar, you have my sympathy.

I can sympathize as well since I have lost important data in the past as
well. The difference is I cared enough to learn what went wrong and
change my behavior to ensure it didn't happen again. I could be wrong,
but that's not what seems to be happening here, since even after people
have explained what she did wrong and how to fix it, she continues to
blame the tools. This thread is the result.

-- 
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JR

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back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
  Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:06 -0400
    Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 02:47 +1300
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 15:56 +0000
      Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 16:13 +0000
        Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:14 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-09 16:15 -0400
              Re: back from the brink Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-10 08:56 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:39 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:50 +0000
                Re: back from the brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-05-09 13:12 -1000
              Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-12 14:09 +1300
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 22:23 -0400
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 07:56 -0700
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 08:24 -0700
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:33 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 15:52 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:57 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:28 -0700
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:14 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:47 -0700
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 23:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-13 15:01 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:32 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-13 10:15 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:39 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-13 13:48 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:40 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-14 09:30 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 21:16 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-14 22:15 +1300
                Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 21:57 +1000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-15 13:12 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200
                Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100
                Re: back from the brink "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-04-15 23:30 -0700
                Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200
                Re: back from the brink "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2015-12-06 15:54 -0600
                Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-12-06 22:00 +0000
                Re: back from the brink "Happy.Hobo" <Happy.Hobo@Spam.Invalid> - 2015-12-06 16:34 -0600
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
          Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
              Re: back from the brink Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100
      Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400
      Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
          Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500
                Re: back from the brink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400
                Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:28 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:18 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
          Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 16:08 -0500
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:34 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
                Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:32 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
                Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:35 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-04-11 16:06 +0000
              Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0500
          Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
              Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
              Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
      Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
          Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
            Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200
              Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
              Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
                Re: Back From The Brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000
                Re: Back From The Brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 22:15 +0000
                Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:42 -0400
                Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:30 +0000
                Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
                Re: back from the brink JoeyDee <email@nothanks.com> - 2015-04-13 18:31 -0400
  Re: back from the brink "JohnT" <johnT@spamnot.com> - 2015-04-09 18:22 +0100
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
      Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:03 +0100
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
          Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 11:01 +0100
            Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
              Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 15:38 +0100
  Re: back from the brink Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-10 08:25 -0400
    Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
      Re: back from the brink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:32 -0700
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
      Re: back from the brink poldy <poldy@kfu.com> - 2015-04-13 11:09 -0700
        Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000

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