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Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine?

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine?
Date 2018-11-09 19:32 +1300
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On 2018-11-09 05:47:08 +0000, Tom Evans said:
> On 2018-11-09 05:26:15 +0000, Your Name said:
>> On 2018-11-09 03:34:35 +0000, Tom Evans said:
>>> On 2018-11-09 03:16:22 +0000, Tom Evans said:
>>>> 
>>>> What's an easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without 
>>>> using Time Machine?
>>>> 
>>>> I found Disk Drill, from Cleverfiles.com, but I don't know if it's good.
>>> 
>>> I don't use Time Machine because it's confusing; in almost every case I 
>>> wouldn't know what previous state to back up to, because I change 
>>> multiple files mutiple times every day.
>>> 
>>> As a result, I might restore a file to the desired history state , 
>>> while simultaneously rewinding too far back for  multiple other files 
>>> at the same time, thereby losing days, weeks or even months of 
>>> paintstaking work.
>>> 
>>> (I assume that Time Machine reverts to a previous state for all 
>>> documents on the computer at once.)
>> 
>> Time Machine can be used to retrieve individual files, or even previous 
>> versions of files that still exist. You can also use Time machine to 
>> open the old files to copy text or whatever from them without fully 
>> retrieving them. Individual files can be retrieved from Time Machine in 
>> the Finder, or opened from Time Machine in whichever app they were 
>> created in (assuming the developer has included that functionality of 
>> course).
>> 
>> The biggest "problem" with Time Machine is that is does store multiple 
>> copies of files when they have been changed, so it takes up more space 
>> than a simple syncing back (it's the same issues with Apple's silly 
>> "Versioning" system, which is a pain in the backside!). That's why I 
>> don't use Time Machine and prefer Carbon Copy Cloner. Most syncing 
>> backup apps can be set to keep copies of files no longer on the source 
>> drive, which would help in your situation even if another sync has been 
>> done since you emptied the Trash.
> 
> Thanks, Your Name.
> 
> How old are the files that Carbon Copy Cloner can retrieve?
> 
> (Super Duper has already updated my back-up drives' contents to clone 
> my Mac's contents, since I set it to back up my Mac every night, so the 
> file I want to retrieve has been wiped off of those back-up drives 
> also).

Carbon Copy Cloner has three options:

   - Safety Net On
     Keeps copies of files no longer on source drive in a separate folder
     (not the original location) for as long as backup drive space allows.
     When backup drive space is running out it will delete the oldest
     files first. (Time Machine has a similar technique.)

   - Safety Net Off
     Does not keep copies of files no longer on the source drive.

   - Don't Delete Anything
     Keeps copies of all files forever (or until manually deleted from
     the backup drive). Backup drive will eventually run out of space.


I've never used Super Duper, but it may have similar options.

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Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:16 -0800
  Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:18 -0500
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 21:38 -0800
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 08:34 -0500
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 14:52 +0000
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-11 13:13 -0500
  Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 19:34 -0800
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 22:36 -0500
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 20:09 -0800
        Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-08 23:18 -0500
          Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 21:36 -0800
            Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 08:34 -0500
              Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-09 08:18 -0800
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 11:32 -0500
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 16:56 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 09:31 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2018-11-09 20:45 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 23:08 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-10 01:13 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-10 21:01 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-11 17:47 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Wade Garrett <wade@cooler.net> - 2018-11-11 08:32 -0500
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-11 16:39 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-11 23:39 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-12 13:00 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without  using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-12 00:23 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-11 20:02 -0500
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-12 03:15 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-12 14:09 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-12 23:01 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-13 13:42 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-13 22:36 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without  using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-17 15:13 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without   using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-11 23:33 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:48 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2018-11-09 21:24 +0000
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 13:52 +1300
                Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2018-11-09 23:03 +0000
            Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2018-11-09 15:04 +0000
            Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2018-11-09 10:56 -0500
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 18:26 +1300
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Tom Evans <tomevans9890@yahoo.ca> - 2018-11-08 21:47 -0800
        Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-09 19:32 +1300
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-08 22:25 -0800
      Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2018-11-10 09:25 +1300
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2018-11-11 13:17 -0500
  Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> - 2018-11-08 22:19 -0800
    Re: Easy way to recover a file from the emptied Trash, without using Time Machine? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-09 08:34 -0500

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