Re: programmer's keyboard

From	BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.programming
Subject	Re: programmer's keyboard
Date	2013-01-03 13:19 -0600
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On 1/2/2013 3:35 PM, Robert Wessel wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:34:51 -0600, BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1/2/2013 6:23 AM, Rui Maciel wrote:
>>> Using a shell tends to be a bit better because it gives more control to the
>>> user, and can be more efficient.  For example, typing "git checkout branch"
>>> can be done faster than navigating a menu.
>>>
>>> Regarding the "bringing up a shell" bit, essentially this costs the same as
>>> bringing up any other GUI application, such as a FTP client or a file
>>> manager.
>>>
>>
>> the advantage of the GUI based option though is that usually a person
>> can click on things faster than they can type things.
>>
>> this is mostly an issue of having longish paths to 'cd' through, making
>> getting to the desired directory take a little longer (meaning a higher
>> initial cost).
>>
>>
>> this means that navigating to a directory, or moving between
>> directories, can be done faster and easier in Windows Explorer than in a
>> shell.
>>
>> ( granted, right now, I can observe that I have around 30 copies of
>> Windows Explorer open, each currently pointing to a different directory.
>> nevermind that the current number of open text editors is in the "stack
>> doesn't fit on screen and Windows scrolls very slowly" territory. )
>>
>>
>> granted, a better option would be if Explorer had an "Open CMD Shell
>> Here" option. (or, even, the ability to, like in Linux, open a new shell
>> in the same directory as the prior shell...).
>
>
> If you're using Vista or later, hold the shift key when you
> right-click the directory in Explorer.
>

yep, confirmed...

though granted it is the standard CMD shell.
probably useful enough for a lot of things...


> In XP there's a doshere or cmdhere program that's part of Windows
> Powertoys.  Or there's  simple registry change.  Actually that's all
> the cmdhere is anyway, it's an .inf ("cmdhere.inf") file that has the
> install/uninstall scripts for the registry settings.  There are
> versions people have done for post-XP systems as well.
>

ok.

>
>> but, even then, there would be a secondary annoyance:
>> MS configures their compiler via environment variables used in the batch
>> file used to open the shell (rather than, say, putting the compiler on
>> the default path and using an INI file or similar for config). granted,
>> OTOH, it does make MSVC a little easier to auto-configure tools against
>> than GCC (which would externally appear to use magic to know its
>> settings...).
>>
>> the issue here is that an "open shell here" would then not be nearly so
>> useful if the intent is to rebuild the project...
>
>
> Once you get the cmdhere.inf (or other appropriate version for post-XP
> systems), you can trivially modify it to add different commands, and
> different invocations of cmd.  Note that there are several, depending
> on what object you're seeing in explorer (file folver, vs. drive,
> etc).  I have a couple that change invoke something like:
>
>    cmd.exe /k cd ""%1""" & c:\somebatchfile
>
> And if you make the changes with a modicum of care, you'll get full
> uninstall support.
>
> Or just look under HKCR\Drive\Shell and HKCR\Directory\Shell, you
> should find some samples to modify.  For example, you could add the
> following strings under the indicated keys:
>
>    HKCR\Directory\Shell\mycmd
>       (default)="Open My CMD &Window"
>    HKCR\Directory\Shell\mycmd\command
>       (default)="C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /k cd "%1" & c:\mybat"
>
> note the & in front of "Window" adds an accelerator key, and is not
> necessary if you don't want one.
>
> (similar entries under HKCR\Drive)
>

nifty, ...

will have to look into this.

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programmer's keyboard bob <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2012-12-26 11:45 -0800
  Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 15:01 -0600
    Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-26 21:36 +0000
      Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-26 21:12 -0600
      Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-27 23:45 -0600
        Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-28 13:46 +0000
          Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 11:42 +1300
          Re: programmer's keyboard "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2012-12-29 15:15 +0000
            Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 14:41 -0600
              Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-29 21:10 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 15:26 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-29 22:41 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 02:12 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-30 11:20 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com - 2012-12-30 10:19 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 14:51 -0600
              Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 10:43 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 01:55 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 21:06 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 02:35 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 18:12 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 13:30 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 09:36 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 17:27 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 13:00 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 03:13 -0600
                version control (was: Re: programmer's keyboard) rugxulo@gmail.com - 2012-12-31 10:36 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-01 09:05 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 16:58 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-01 13:24 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 12:23 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-02 14:34 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-02 15:35 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:19 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Willem <willem@turtle.stack.nl> - 2013-01-03 08:35 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:46 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard rugxulo@gmail.com - 2013-01-03 00:52 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-03 15:00 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 11:58 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-02 15:03 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard rugxulo@gmail.com - 2013-01-03 00:54 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:06 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 18:04 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 14:24 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 11:34 +0000
          Writing Experimental Code "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2013-01-02 15:08 -0600
  Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:45 +0000
    Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-28 12:29 -0600

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