Re: programmer's keyboard

From	Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.programming
Subject	Re: programmer's keyboard
Date	2013-01-02 12:23 +0000
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BGB wrote:

> On 12/30/2012 6:00 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
>>
>> So that's all less hassle than "hg revert"?
>>
> 
> partly yes, because usually this can be done via the GUI, whereas typing
> in "hg revert" could very well involve bringing up a shell, changing to
> the right path, and typing it in.

Using a shell tends to be a bit better because it gives more control to the 
user, and can be more efficient.  For example, typing "git checkout branch" 
can be done faster than navigating a menu.

Regarding the "bringing up a shell" bit, essentially this costs the same as 
bringing up any other GUI application, such as a FTP client or a file 
manager. 

> granted, TorgoiseHg adds revert to Explorer, making the above a bit moot.
> 
> 
> the rest would come down mostly to granularity.
> (like, if you revert, it will go back to the last commit, meaning being
> strategic about when to commit, ...).

You can checkout any version you've committed from any development branch.  
Some version control systems such as Git also provide a nifty feature: 
stashing away changes that weren't committed in a temporary stack.  
Mercurial also supports this feature, but only as an extension.

<snip/>
>>>> As for copying, with Mercurial at least, everything in in the source
>>>> directory, so there's no additional effort required.  Because you don't
>>>> have all those dated directories floating around, where's way less data
>>>> to copy.
>>>>
>>>> The convenience of being able to use ssh to clone and synchronise
>>>> between hosts and devices is a big win.
>>>>
>>>
>>> you can also transfer things using, say, FTP, or network shares (if on a
>>> LAN). (granted, yes, a person needs an FTP server for the FTP route).
>>
>> Share maybe, but handle merging?  Branches?
>>
> 
> not usually a big issue for a single developer project.
> 
> more so, if the developer does the bulk of their development from a
> single computer (which then generally holds the "authoritative" copy).
> 
> more often, if I am going to be away, and have a laptop, I will usually
> make a copy on an external HDD (or "USB Mass Storage Device"), then if I
> work on it more, that version will become the authoritative copy, at
> least until I copy it back onto my main computer.

Development branches are useful even in single-developer projects.  They let 
you have multiple development branches which can be easily merged and 
forked.  The best part of it is that versioned history can be kept between 
merges.

> for a single developer though, it is harder pressed that it is less
> effort, since a lone developer hardly ever has reason to diff their own
> code.

Not necessarily.  If you track changes to your project tree, and if by any 
chance one of those changes happens to introduce a bug, a version control 
system lets you pinpoint which change introduced the bug, and you can 
quickly inspect what changes were made by diff'ing between any couple of 
versions.  With a version control system, you can do all this without having 
to checkout anything.

Rui Maciel

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programmer's keyboard bob <bob@coolfone.comze.com> - 2012-12-26 11:45 -0800
  Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-26 15:01 -0600
    Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-26 21:36 +0000
      Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-26 21:12 -0600
      Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2012-12-27 23:45 -0600
        Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-28 13:46 +0000
          Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 11:42 +1300
          Re: programmer's keyboard "Chris Uppal" <chris.uppal@metagnostic.REMOVE-THIS.org> - 2012-12-29 15:15 +0000
            Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 14:41 -0600
              Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-29 21:10 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-29 15:26 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-29 22:41 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 02:12 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard "BartC" <bc@freeuk.com> - 2012-12-30 11:20 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com - 2012-12-30 10:19 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 14:51 -0600
              Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 10:43 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 01:55 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 21:06 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 02:35 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 18:12 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 13:30 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 09:36 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 17:27 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 13:00 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 03:13 -0600
                version control (was: Re: programmer's keyboard) rugxulo@gmail.com - 2012-12-31 10:36 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-01 09:05 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-31 16:58 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-01 13:24 +1300
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 12:23 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-02 14:34 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2013-01-02 15:35 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:19 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Willem <willem@turtle.stack.nl> - 2013-01-03 08:35 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:46 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard rugxulo@gmail.com - 2013-01-03 00:52 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-03 15:00 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 11:58 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-02 15:03 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard rugxulo@gmail.com - 2013-01-03 00:54 -0800
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2013-01-03 13:06 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-30 18:04 +0000
                Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-30 14:24 -0600
                Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2013-01-02 11:34 +0000
          Writing Experimental Code "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcfide@sacrideo.us> - 2013-01-02 15:08 -0600
  Re: programmer's keyboard Rui Maciel <rui.maciel@gmail.com> - 2012-12-28 11:45 +0000
    Re: programmer's keyboard BGB <cr88192@hotmail.com> - 2012-12-28 12:29 -0600

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