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| First post | 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400 |
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What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 01:59 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 06:05 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-18 08:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-18 11:33 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:16 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:32 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:05 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:23 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:53 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:31 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:10 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-08-20 10:30 -0300
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:01 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:24 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 22:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:02 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 06:48 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:15 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-23 21:52 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 01:07 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-24 11:15 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-24 19:26 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:45 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:39 +0000
Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-25 06:48 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 15:10 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-26 18:04 -0700
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 03:23 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 12:09 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:15 -0400
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 03:21 +0000
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 02:42 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:15 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:37 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:13 +0000
Re: Power lines "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:28 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:23 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:47 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:20 +0100
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:43 +0200
Re: Power lines Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-30 15:49 +0000
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:40 +0000
Re: Power lines "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:23 +0200
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:36 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:09 +0100
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:06 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 14:19 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 15:25 +0100
Re: Power lines c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:24 -0400
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:18 +0100
Re: Power lines Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 05:56 -0700
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 15:33 +0100
Re: Power lines Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:06 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:30 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:51 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:39 +0100
Re: Power lines rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:26 +0000
Re: Power lines The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:25 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 01:46 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 11:50 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-25 18:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-26 04:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 10:54 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-27 19:11 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Enoch Powell <e.powell@tutanatu.kom> - 2026-08-27 12:57 -0600
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 12:55 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:25 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-28 00:45 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-28 16:13 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 19:38 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:10 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:55 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-25 23:34 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-26 04:27 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-26 08:57 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 06:30 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-27 13:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:22 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 13:16 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-28 18:36 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-28 19:42 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 10:28 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 20:04 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 23:18 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 22:50 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-31 00:43 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 07:55 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:08 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000
[OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100
Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> - 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100
Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:49 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 16:32 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-27 22:44 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-19 12:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:03 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:24 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 22:07 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 03:42 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 02:14 -0400
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:13 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 14:14 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:27 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 16:57 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:02 +0100
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 13:54 +0000
Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ? c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-19 22:21 -0400
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 06:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfi108FprcuU70@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90880 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 02:08:55 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Well, stop invading other countries and things will improve. I certainly can agree with that. The US can stop invading countries any time now.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 10:04 +0100 |
| Subject | [OT] Russian Federation, wars (was: Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) |
| Message-ID | <1170rms$3u4us$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90878 |
[I've removed the alt.* group for this reply.] On 2026-08-30, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote: > 30.08.2026 03:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 29/08/2026 21:04, rbowman wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't >>>> aware of that. >>> >>> Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either >>> government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in consideration >>> the biases and you may glimpse the real story. >>> >> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. >> >> Its always about how well Russia is doing, and never about the fact >> that Russia is pretty much on the point of total collapse, >> threatening nuclear strikes on Britain. > > Hello from Russia. > > It is not near 1980s, when USSR where near point of total > collapse. The only thing that is happening here, besides Wildberries > users (both sellers and buyers) whining is I have to wait for an hour > at gasoline station to refuel my car with petrol. What is causing this, people thinking petrol is going to end soon? If so, good to see that that stupid trend is universal... On April 28, 2025, I did see roads stopped still because some idiots decided the thing to do in the middle of a blackout (and grid bootstrap) was to go refuel like there's no tomorrow. >>> For example, while some of the articles became more balanced today's hot >>> headline was >>> >>> "Russian strike near Kyiv kills 37, in one of the year's deadliest >>> attacks" >>> >>> https://www.npr.org/2026/08/29/nx-s1-5948714/russian-strike-kyiv >>> >>> Dastardly attack on civilians! As the story got fleshed out it seems the >>> Russians had hit a drone depot that was next to a home for elderly >>> citizens. It's not clear how many of the personnel working in the depot >>> were killed but as might be expected the facility, chock full of high >>> explosives meant for Russian, blew up. >>> >> I think that is not actually quite correct, buy I haven't fact checked it. >> >> The fact does remain that Russia bombs Ukraine indiscriminately with >> no regard for civilian life. >> >> Ukraine is somewhat more circumspect, but it's war and shit inevitably happens > > Circumspect? They tried to bomb ME with drone on 6 aug 2024 near I... will focus on drinking my coffee. I spent too long trying to parse "ME". >> Russia no longer has access to Starlink, but Ukraine does. > > Russia never officially has access to Starlink. Local laws requires > satellites to transmit signals via stations on ground. > > And yet how da hell UA hitting civilian buildings like houses and > shops (not a big one like Lenta, Ashan or other, something small like > SELPO)? They has access to Starlink, high-speed internet connection, > they should clearly saw it isn't a military target! Do they? Wasn't it a news item a few months ago that Elon Musk actively hampered Ukraine's access to Starlink in military attacks? (Which, given that the US was clearly aiding Ukraine, might even count as "Treason against the United States" (U.S. Const. Art.III §3)) >> Putin is on the edge of being deposed. His 'elections' are due. He >> is desperate to be able to say 'NATO attacked us 'and we are winning >> in Ukraine'. What? 1) If anything, Russia is repeatedly trying to trigger some reaction from NATO with continuing incidents in Washington Treaty territory. 2) Russia saying others attacked Russia isn't newsworthy at all. It has been consistently a m.o. of Russia through *decades*. See, e.g. the Shelling of Mainila [1], which was fabricated as a casus belli to start the Winter War. In more recent years, this was still a propaganda point within Russia, with Medvedev claiming something along the lines of "Russia or the Soviet Union have never started a war"[2]. I think in the past few months there have been more Article 5-worthy incidents? 3) If elections posed a real threat to his permanence, you'd think he'd have been shown the door several years ago. I mean, I guess things could change... [1] <https://enwp.org/Shelling_of_Mainila> [2] <https://www.is.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000000143646.html> >> But the banks have closed their doors and people cannot >> withdraw cash, there is no gasoline West of the Urals and not much >> diesel, 50% of the distilleries are out of action and nearly all >> Wildberries warehouses are gone. Wild berries the fruit or is this a company? > Hey, stop being lying. This is just plain wrong propaganda: > > 1. Plenty of Diesel on every gasoline station, only petroleum > (a.k.a. AI-92/AI-95) is a temporary problem. > 2. Banks are working, was in Sberbank on Thursday because my MIR card > expired. ATMs working fine and, as always, plenty of people near > Sberbank ones withdrawing cash and paying mortrages/socials. > 2.1. Also, we have MIR Pay now, so Google Pay/Apple Pay disablement > isn't a problem at all. > 2.2. Also, all banks implemented a way to pay via QR code. The problem here is probably more about globalisation, the payment system may be local, but that's no good if you need to do a transaction with a foreign entity which refuses do to such a transfer from/to the Russian Federation. It's good that such systems exist, and bank cards with a national + an international network also aren't new technology (in the current context in Europe, it seems some people might just not be aware that you can have an EMV smartcard on more than one network, - but SIBS has done this for *ages* with Multibanco, meaning you get a card that both works in a national network (SIBS Multibanco) and on one international network (usually Visa or MasterCard)). > 3. Wildberries still delivering without problems, but I prefer > OZON. Plenty of their (Wildberries) cars on roads, and big warehouse > near my city is working fine. > 4. And I can pay for everything everywhere with bank card/MIR Pay/QR > code. In Ashan, Lenta or small SELPO shop in 150km from Ekaterinburg. > >> Putin is hitting civilians because his armaments are mostly >> crap. The ones that get through - the supersonic ballistic missiles >> - are simply not very accurate, and the subsonic drones are mostly >> being shot down, So they are going to miss. Putin doesn't care. He >> is a war criminal already and a few more civilian lives are not >> going to change that. >> >> Ukrainians at least want to be able to appear to be civilised after >> the war is over. > > Try to fact-check not only using UK/UA/USA sites. You probably will be > very surprised. > > And also, as always, truth is somewhere between. (The truth is that the only winning move is not to play. Sadly, that's not always a choice.) > And WHY this thread still in comp.os.linux.*? Seriously, move it to > politics related group. This is actually interesting to read compared to the usual political content that pops up in comp.os.linux.misc, so thanks for that. -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 10:22 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars |
| Message-ID | <nfiav4Fc752U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90888 |
Nuno Silva wrote: > Wild berries the fruit or is this a company? Wildberries is "the Russian Amazon" and Ukraine has been bombing the shit out of their warehouses in the past few weeks, justifying it based on them stocking drone components, I have no way of knowing if that's true, but it seems to be the first part of the war that everyday Russians have taken notice of?
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| From | "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 16:13 +0500 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars |
| Message-ID | <117139n$v1cn$1@inn.news.oldproto.ru> |
| In reply to | #90889 |
30.08.2026 14:22, Andy Burns wrote: > Nuno Silva wrote: > >> Wild berries the fruit or is this a company? > > Wildberries is "the Russian Amazon" and Ukraine has been bombing the shit out of their warehouses in the past few weeks, justifying it based on them stocking drone components, I have no way of knowing if that's true, but it seems to be the first part of the war that everyday Russians have taken notice of? I have more interesting thought here - UA tries to do a mirrored response, as Nova Poshta trucks was (and still) used to transfer military equipment and personnel. But why OZON (another "Russian Amazon" thing) warehouses wasn't bombed? Because they're not so popular here, as Wildberries. And why now? Because bombing oils refineries isn't made internal situation as unstable as they hope. -- WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 18:12 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars |
| Message-ID | <1171o91$7umf$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90889 |
On 30/08/2026 10:22, Andy Burns wrote: > Nuno Silva wrote: > >> Wild berries the fruit or is this a company? > > Wildberries is "the Russian Amazon" and Ukraine has been bombing the > shit out of their warehouses in the past few weeks, justifying it based > on them stocking drone components, I have no way of knowing if that's > true, but it seems to be the first part of the war that everyday > Russians have taken notice of? > That and the lack of gasoline and diesel Of course a lot depends on where in over 5000 miles of Russia you actually are. Ukraine is not especially targeting areas well to the east of the Urals. https://fortune.com/2026/08/23/russia-economy-bank-run-deposit-withdrawals-war-funding-military-mobilization/ https://hromadske.ua/en/world/270147-russian-gasoline-output-falls-to-70-of-domestic-demand-after-drone-strikes-reuters etc etc. -- Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy. Its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
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| From | "Stanislav N. aka pztrn" <pztrn@oldproto.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 16:47 +0500 |
| Subject | Re: [OT] Russian Federation, wars |
| Message-ID | <117158d$v1hn$1@inn.news.oldproto.ru> |
| In reply to | #90888 |
30.08.2026 14:04, Nuno Silva wrote: > [I've removed the alt.* group for this reply.] > > On 2026-08-30, Stanislav N. aka pztrn wrote: > >> 30.08.2026 03:18, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> On 29/08/2026 21:04, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 10:28:27 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> >>>>> RT is Russian state sponsored propaganda. I didn't think you weren't >>>>> aware of that. >>>> >>>> Certainly I'm aware of that, just as I'm aware much of the MSM is either >>>> government or NGO propaganda. Compare the reports taking in consideration >>>> the biases and you may glimpse the real story. >>>> >>> Most UK media doesn't report at all, or only reports pro Russian stuff. >>> >>> Its always about how well Russia is doing, and never about the fact >>> that Russia is pretty much on the point of total collapse, >>> threatening nuclear strikes on Britain. >> >> Hello from Russia. >> >> It is not near 1980s, when USSR where near point of total >> collapse. The only thing that is happening here, besides Wildberries >> users (both sellers and buyers) whining is I have to wait for an hour >> at gasoline station to refuel my car with petrol. > > What is causing this, people thinking petrol is going to end soon? If > so, good to see that that stupid trend is universal... > > On April 28, 2025, I did see roads stopped still because some idiots > decided the thing to do in the middle of a blackout (and grid bootstrap) > was to go refuel like there's no tomorrow. Idiots, they are everywhere. Here we have some idiots that refuels several 100L canisters because "a-a-a-a there will be no fuel soooooon!!!11". That is the case. Even on my last refuel two days ago I saw several of them. > I... will focus on drinking my coffee. I spent too long trying to parse > "ME". Not abbreviation ;) They tries to attack my car with me inside of it, gladly we have good roads here so I can accelerate way beyond limits. > >>> Russia no longer has access to Starlink, but Ukraine does. >> >> Russia never officially has access to Starlink. Local laws requires >> satellites to transmit signals via stations on ground. >> >> And yet how da hell UA hitting civilian buildings like houses and >> shops (not a big one like Lenta, Ashan or other, something small like >> SELPO)? They has access to Starlink, high-speed internet connection, >> they should clearly saw it isn't a military target! > > Do they? Wasn't it a news item a few months ago that Elon Musk actively > hampered Ukraine's access to Starlink in military attacks? (Which, given > that the US was clearly aiding Ukraine, might even count as "Treason > against the United States" (U.S. Const. Art.III §3)) That was typical "give me what I need" from Elon. Cut access, got something, reinstate access. > >>> Putin is on the edge of being deposed. His 'elections' are due. He >>> is desperate to be able to say 'NATO attacked us 'and we are winning >>> in Ukraine'. > > What? > > 1) If anything, Russia is repeatedly trying to trigger some reaction > from NATO with continuing incidents in Washington Treaty territory. Or NATO repeatedly trying to trigged some reaction from Russia. Two-way game ¯⧹_(ツ)_⧸¯. > >>> But the banks have closed their doors and people cannot >>> withdraw cash, there is no gasoline West of the Urals and not much >>> diesel, 50% of the distilleries are out of action and nearly all >>> Wildberries warehouses are gone. > > Wild berries the fruit or is this a company? Company, like Amazon in Russia. > >> Hey, stop being lying. This is just plain wrong propaganda: >> >> 1. Plenty of Diesel on every gasoline station, only petroleum >> (a.k.a. AI-92/AI-95) is a temporary problem. >> 2. Banks are working, was in Sberbank on Thursday because my MIR card >> expired. ATMs working fine and, as always, plenty of people near >> Sberbank ones withdrawing cash and paying mortrages/socials. >> 2.1. Also, we have MIR Pay now, so Google Pay/Apple Pay disablement >> isn't a problem at all. >> 2.2. Also, all banks implemented a way to pay via QR code. > > The problem here is probably more about globalisation, the payment > system may be local, but that's no good if you need to do a transaction > with a foreign entity which refuses do to such a transfer from/to the > Russian Federation. We already have alternatives for foreign transactions, and that alternative isn't a cryptocurrency ;). >>> Putin is hitting civilians because his armaments are mostly >>> crap. The ones that get through - the supersonic ballistic missiles >>> - are simply not very accurate, and the subsonic drones are mostly >>> being shot down, So they are going to miss. Putin doesn't care. He >>> is a war criminal already and a few more civilian lives are not >>> going to change that. >>> >>> Ukrainians at least want to be able to appear to be civilised after >>> the war is over. >> >> Try to fact-check not only using UK/UA/USA sites. You probably will be >> very surprised. >> >> And also, as always, truth is somewhere between. > > (The truth is that the only winning move is not to play. Sadly, that's > not always a choice.) Exactly that was happened in 2022. I think the very last drop in a cup of patience was Zelenskiy's statements about reinstating nuclear weaponry in UA. But, of course, I might be wrong, it can be whole Minsk's agreements violations UA caused for 7 years. Also, EU politics of these times (around mid-2010's) confesses that these Minsk's agreements was a fake to put as much weapons as possible in UA. -- WBR, Stanislav Nikitin a.k.a. pztrn.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 13:58 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nffvrgF3giU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90756 |
On 2026-08-28 14:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote:
>> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?
>
> Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules
>
What's the difference?
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 10:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <116v3rp$3dl25$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90820 |
On 2026-08-29 04:58, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-28 14:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote: >>> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ? >> >> Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules >> > > What's the difference? EU rules - and apparently still also UK rules - emphasize keeping chicken farms free of salmonella. This is different from US rules that generally accept that it is economically impossible to keep huge chicken farms salmonella free, so it is the responsibility of consumers to cook check meat well. As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong): Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not yet so in the UK. -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:20 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfgt9aF3giU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90833 |
On 2026-08-29 19:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2026-08-29 04:58, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-28 14:16, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 28/08/2026 03:22, c186282 wrote:
>>>> Salmonella in frozen blueberries. Eh ?
>>>
>>> Eggs reared under EU rather than UK rules
>>>
>>
>> What's the difference?
>
> EU rules - and apparently still also UK rules - emphasize keeping
> chicken farms free of salmonella. This is different from US rules that
> generally accept that it is economically impossible to keep huge chicken
> farms salmonella free, so it is the responsibility of consumers to cook
> check meat well.
I thought that it would be about washing or not the eggs. I know that
eggs are washed in the USA (dunno about Canada). In Spain they are not
(I don't know about the EU).
>
> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong):
>
> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a waiver
> to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. When this led to
> problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not yet so in the UK.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 23:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfh6urFprcuU67@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90841 |
On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:20:58 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I thought that it would be about washing or not the eggs. I know that > eggs are washed in the USA (dunno about Canada). In Spain they are not > (I don't know about the EU). https://scientificdiscoveries.ars.usda.gov/tellus/stories/articles/how-we- store-our-eggs-and-why Washing eggs is relatively new in the US, 'relatively new' meaning 'in my adult life'. Back in Ye Olde Days eggs were preserved by packing them in wood ash or submerging them in water glass (sodium silicate). Supposedly they were good for a year or more. Cynically, if you want to sell refrigerators to Eskimos and the American housewife you first have to convince them food will rot if not refrigerated within 15 minutes.
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 02:14 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <Fdycnej-qMCYVw73nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #90871 |
On 8/29/26 19:06, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:20:58 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > >> I thought that it would be about washing or not the eggs. I know that >> eggs are washed in the USA (dunno about Canada). In Spain they are not >> (I don't know about the EU). > > https://scientificdiscoveries.ars.usda.gov/tellus/stories/articles/how-we- > store-our-eggs-and-why > > Washing eggs is relatively new in the US, 'relatively new' meaning 'in my > adult life'. > > Back in Ye Olde Days eggs were preserved by packing them in wood ash or > submerging them in water glass (sodium silicate). Supposedly they were > good for a year or more. > > Cynically, if you want to sell refrigerators to Eskimos and the American > housewife you first have to convince them food will rot if not > refrigerated within 15 minutes. Hmm ... 'preserved'. If you mean "Won't KILL you" then silicate-sealed eggs might fit the bill. But do NOT expect them to taste very good :-) Modern 'preserved' - MRE's and dehydrated - will last a number of years, maybe a good 10 with dehydrated, but every year the taste gets worse.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 06:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfi1a6FprcuU71@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90882 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 02:14:19 -0400, c186282 wrote: > Hmm ... 'preserved'. If you mean "Won't KILL you" > then silicate-sealed eggs might fit the bill. But do NOT expect them > to taste very good https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_egg Century eggs taste good. I used to get them in an Asian market in Tucson. I can't find them locally although there is a place in Spokane that might have them.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 19:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfj7hpF3glU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90871 |
On 2026-08-30 01:06, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Aug 2026 22:20:58 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I thought that it would be about washing or not the eggs. I know that
>> eggs are washed in the USA (dunno about Canada). In Spain they are not
>> (I don't know about the EU).
>
> https://scientificdiscoveries.ars.usda.gov/tellus/stories/articles/how-we-
> store-our-eggs-and-why
>
> Washing eggs is relatively new in the US, 'relatively new' meaning 'in my
> adult life'.
>
> Back in Ye Olde Days eggs were preserved by packing them in wood ash or
> submerging them in water glass (sodium silicate). Supposedly they were
> good for a year or more.
WOW! I never heard of that.
> Cynically, if you want to sell refrigerators to Eskimos and the American
> housewife you first have to convince them food will rot if not
> refrigerated within 15 minutes.
{Chuckle}
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-29 22:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <116vkh0$3j6fu$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90833 |
On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote: > As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong): > > Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU > would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a waiver > to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. EU rules are already looser than UK ones. > When this led to > problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not yet so in the UK. No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, but there are cases in many EU countries too. And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on fowl, ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter. Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the protective covering off them. -- When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frédéric Bastiat
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| From | Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 09:28 -0700 |
| Subject | Salmonella (Re: What's Wrong With LinuxMint ?) |
| Message-ID | <1171lnf$7art$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #90854 |
On 2026-08-29 14:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote: >> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong): >> >> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU >> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a >> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. > > EU rules are already looser than UK ones. > >> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not >> yet so in the UK. > > No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have > tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, > but there are cases in many EU countries too. > > And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on fowl, > ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the > shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with > disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter. > > Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the > protective covering off them. This is true, but also chickens infected with salmonella may shed bacteria INSIDE the eggs. -- Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 19:27 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfj7g4F3glU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90854 |
On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am wrong):
>>
>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a
>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war.
>
> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>
>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not
>> yet so in the UK.
>
> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have
> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases,
> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>
> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on fowl,
> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the
> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with
> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
What disinfectant do they use?
>
> Eggs covered in salmonella are perfectly safe UNTIL you wash the
> protective covering off them.
Cracking them open needs following a procedure or it turns out
dangerous, too.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 18:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfjb7gFprcuU72@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90914 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 19:27:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote: >>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am >>> wrong): >>> >>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU >>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a >>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war. >> >> EU rules are already looser than UK ones. >> >>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not >>> yet so in the UK. >> >> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have >> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases, >> but there are cases in many EU countries too. >> >> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on >> fowl, >> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the >> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with >> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter. > > What disinfectant do they use? https://www.eggcartons.com/products/egg-wash-powder-8lbs The detailed government list requires an advanced chemistry degree to translate it into English or Spanish. It's mostly ammonia, chlorine, or iodine compounds. Backyard chicken farmers use dish washing liquid, vinegar, bleach (chlorine) or similar cleaning products. Aside: keeping chickens in the city requires a $30 license that's good for three years.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 21:30 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfjelvF3giU10@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90916 |
On 2026-08-30 20:31, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 19:27:32 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2026-08-29 23:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> On 29/08/2026 18:11, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> As I understand the issue at hand (please correct me where I am
>>>> wrong):
>>>>
>>>> Ukraine (like UK) is outside the EU and has looser rules. Normally, EU
>>>> would keep out food not produced to EU standards, but they gave a
>>>> waiver to Ukraine in order to support her in the war.
>>>
>>> EU rules are already looser than UK ones.
>>>
>>>> When this led to problems, he waiver was rescinded in the EU, but not
>>>> yet so in the UK.
>>>
>>> No, the salmonella outbreak is not confined to the UK, We merely have
>>> tougher medical reporting processes so we have identified more cases,
>>> but there are cases in many EU countries too.
>>>
>>> And no, it is not about permitting or not permitting salmonella on
>>> fowl,
>>> ALL chickens have filthy bottoms and all eggs have salmonella, BUT the
>>> shells are microbial tight EXCEPT in the USA where they wash them with
>>> disinfectant. And therefore need to be refrigerated thereafter.
>>
>> What disinfectant do they use?
>
> https://www.eggcartons.com/products/egg-wash-powder-8lbs
>
> The detailed government list requires an advanced chemistry degree to
> translate it into English or Spanish. It's mostly ammonia, chlorine, or
> iodine compounds. Backyard chicken farmers use dish washing liquid,
> vinegar, bleach (chlorine) or similar cleaning products.
>
> Aside: keeping chickens in the city requires a $30 license that's good for
> three years.
Heh.
I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a
water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without
bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures
recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were
too complicated, so I would wash them.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 19:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nfjfejFprcuU79@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90923 |
On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:30:07 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote: > I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a > water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without > bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures > recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were > too complicated, so I would wash them. My parents kept chickens but they'd wrapped up the operation when I was very young. They came in handy during the war (II) when you could trade eggs for sugar or other rationed items. However they also attracted rats and other vermin. My mother had a thing about rats and mice. A family legend was the day she saw a rat and blew it away with her shotgun. Unfortunately the rat was sitting on a five gallon can of oil, which was another rationed item.
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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-08-30 21:57 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfjg9jF3glU9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #90926 |
On 2026-08-30 21:43, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2026 21:30:07 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> I asked because I wash the eggs at home, with a few drops of bleach in a
>> water bowl. Then I refrigerate them. My father was doing that, without
>> bleach, since before I was born. Me, I decided that the procedures
>> recommended here to store and handle unwashed eggs in the kitchen were
>> too complicated, so I would wash them.
>
> My parents kept chickens but they'd wrapped up the operation when I was
> very young. They came in handy during the war (II) when you could trade
> eggs for sugar or other rationed items. However they also attracted rats
> and other vermin. My mother had a thing about rats and mice. A family
> legend was the day she saw a rat and blew it away with her shotgun.
> Unfortunately the rat was sitting on a five gallon can of oil, which was
> another rationed item.
Here, my father went on the queue to get his tobacco ration. He did not
smoke, but he then used the tobacco to barter for something he needed,
like eggs.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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