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booting with usb

Started by"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid>
First post2015-04-07 22:00 -0400
Last post2015-04-08 23:18 +0000
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  booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-07 22:00 -0400
    Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 17:05 +0000
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 13:20 -0400
        Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 20:56 +0000
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:27 -0400
            Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:58 +0000
              Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-09 07:44 -0700
                Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 16:51 -0400
                  Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 15:57 -0500
                    Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 18:19 -0400
                      Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-09 17:50 -0500
            Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 14:30 -0400
              Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-12 03:24 +0000
                Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:14 -0400
      Re: booting with usb Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-04-08 19:15 +0000
        Re: booting with usb Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-04-11 15:03 +0000
    Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 12:51 -0500
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:10 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Roland Latour <no-one@nowhere.com> - 2015-04-08 13:28 -0500
        Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 11:33 -0700
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 14:39 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> - 2015-04-08 16:18 -0500
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 18:19 -0400
            Re: booting with usb Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2015-04-09 02:28 +0000
            Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 04:00 +0000
          Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-09 03:59 +0000
    Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 20:46 +0200
      Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 15:15 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Pascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> - 2015-04-08 21:29 +0200
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-08 20:14 -0400
        Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-08 13:03 -0700
          Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-10 13:56 -0400
            Re: booting with usb Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-04-10 11:17 -0700
        Re: booting with usb William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2015-04-08 21:01 +0000
        Re: booting with usb Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2015-04-11 13:57 +0000
          Re: booting with usb "Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 17:04 -0400
            Re: booting with usb TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> - 2015-04-12 09:29 -0400
    Re: booting with usb Andreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-04-08 17:54 -0400
      Re: booting with usb J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> - 2015-04-08 23:18 +0000

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#14403

From"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-04-08 14:39 -0400
Message-ID<mg3sin$nsn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14402
"Bobbie Sellers" <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote in message 
news:mg3s8d$mfp$1@dont-email.me...
> On 04/08/2015 11:10 AM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
>> "Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message
>> news:20150408125123.0e7019a5@jmspc...
>>> On Tue, 7 Apr 2015 22:00:51 -0400
>>> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.
>>>> I have looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I
>>>> was advised to use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything
>>>> with initramfs.conf ? initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any
>>>> one know anything about this?
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you trying to boot from a USB stick?
>>>
>>> I have an old HP that doesn't see the USB stick when booting up.
>>>
>>> Heres how I got it to recognize it:
>>>
>>> Turn off the computer.
>>>
>>> Unplug the computer.
>>>
>>> Push the power button several times.
>>>
>>> Plug the computer back in.
>>>
>>> Insert the USB stick.
>>>
>>> Power on the computer.
>>>
>>> At the Splash screen, hit f9 or the key for Boot Menu.
>>>
>>> The USB stick should show up as a hard drive.
>>>
>>> Choose it, and boot from it.
>>
>> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the make 
>> of
>> the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting from usb is 
>> quite
>> common.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
> So Bill how did you create that USB stick to be bootable?
>
> Have you set your BIOS boot order to start with the USB stick as first 
> choice?

    Yes and it still doesn't boot. but I sometimes do not and the stick is 
still recognized by BIOS.

> Some computers have a hard time using USB sticks but a computer
> as new as your should have no problem.
> Using recent computers I have had no problem with USB booting
> on older computer and have even installed from PCLOS from such a USB.
>
> bliss 

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#14411

FromJohnny <johnny@invalid.net>
Date2015-04-08 16:18 -0500
Message-ID<20150408161856.272d1931@jmspc>
In reply to#14400
On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400
"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:

> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting
> from usb is quite common.
> 
> Bill

The problem is not common.

Here is something you can try, if you want to.

Download Rufus, it's for Windows.
http://rufus.akeo.ie/

Format the USB to MS-DOS.

Download Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 it should run on an old computer, and
burn it to the USB.
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2714

If your computer recognizes the USB, it will boot.

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#14414

From"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-04-08 18:19 -0400
Message-ID<mg49gb$g46$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14411
"Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
news:20150408161856.272d1931@jmspc...
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400
> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
>> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting
>> from usb is quite common.
>>
>> Bill
>
> The problem is not common.
>
> Here is something you can try, if you want to.
>
> Download Rufus, it's for Windows.
> http://rufus.akeo.ie/

    I've tried this rufus before. I set it to fat16 not fat32 because if I 
was running old ms-dos it would be fat16 for DOS 6.xx for example. There is 
a 64k cluster limit and I can't format fat16 with rufus. So more for it 
working to use old dos. Now it formats my USB  with fat32 but ms-dos isn't 
going to work on that unless it's dos 7.1 or win98. What kinda windows tool 
is this?

    So the thing is.  Can just any ISO be copied onto a USB. I think someone 
in the thread said no. But I will look for usb ISOs.

Bill

> Format the USB to MS-DOS.
>
> Download Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 it should run on an old computer, and
> burn it to the USB.
> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2714
>
> If your computer recognizes the USB, it will boot.
> 

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#14418

FromRobert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Date2015-04-09 02:28 +0000
Message-ID<slrnmibou6.2p2.spamtrap42@one.localnet>
In reply to#14414
On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
> news:20150408161856.272d1931@jmspc...
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400
>> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
>>> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting
>>> from usb is quite common.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> The problem is not common.
>>
>> Here is something you can try, if you want to.
>>
>> Download Rufus, it's for Windows.
>> http://rufus.akeo.ie/
>
>     I've tried this rufus before. I set it to fat16 not fat32 because if I 
> was running old ms-dos it would be fat16 for DOS 6.xx for example. There is 
> a 64k cluster limit and I can't format fat16 with rufus. So more for it 
> working to use old dos. Now it formats my USB  with fat32 but ms-dos isn't 
> going to work on that unless it's dos 7.1 or win98. What kinda windows tool 
> is this?
>
>     So the thing is.  Can just any ISO be copied onto a USB. I think someone 
> in the thread said no. But I will look for usb ISOs.
>
> Bill
>...

It depends.  There is a command, isohybrid, that can modify an
ISO to make it so it can be booted from USB.  I have used it with
success.

HTH

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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#14421

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-04-09 04:00 +0000
Message-ID<mg4th2$2l7$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14414
On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "Johnny" <johnny@invalid.net> wrote in message 
> news:20150408161856.272d1931@jmspc...
>> On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400
>> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
>>> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting
>>> from usb is quite common.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>> The problem is not common.
>>
>> Here is something you can try, if you want to.
>>
>> Download Rufus, it's for Windows.
>> http://rufus.akeo.ie/
>
>     I've tried this rufus before. I set it to fat16 not fat32 because if I 
> was running old ms-dos it would be fat16 for DOS 6.xx for example. There is 
> a 64k cluster limit and I can't format fat16 with rufus. So more for it 
> working to use old dos. Now it formats my USB  with fat32 but ms-dos isn't 
> going to work on that unless it's dos 7.1 or win98. What kinda windows tool 
> is this?
>
>     So the thing is.  Can just any ISO be copied onto a USB. I think someone 
> in the thread said no. But I will look for usb ISOs.

The iso has to be of the kind that will allow a boot from usb. I know
the mageia One distributions are. I do not know about anything else. 

>
> Bill
>
>> Format the USB to MS-DOS.
>>
>> Download Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 it should run on an old computer, and
>> burn it to the USB.
>> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2714
>>
>> If your computer recognizes the USB, it will boot.
>> 
>
>

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#14420

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-04-09 03:59 +0000
Message-ID<mg4ter$2l7$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14411
On 2015-04-08, Johnny <johnny@invalid.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Apr 2015 14:10:18 -0400
> "Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> My computer is old but BIOS seems to recognize a usb stick. Even the
>> make of the USB stick. I have heard problems in linux with booting
>> from usb is quite common.
>> 
>> Bill
>
> The problem is not common.
>
> Here is something you can try, if you want to.
>
> Download Rufus, it's for Windows.
> http://rufus.akeo.ie/
>
> Format the USB to MS-DOS.
>
> Download Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1 it should run on an old computer, and
> burn it to the USB.
> http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2714
>
> If your computer recognizes the USB, it will boot.

Not necessarily. The computer has to be able to load the file from the
usb into memory and branch to it. If the bios does not have that
capability you cannot boot from it. 

>

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#14404

FromPascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2015-04-08 20:46 +0200
Message-ID<mg3t19$1e31$1@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#14391
Hello,

Bill Cunningham a écrit :
>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb.

What do you mean exactly by "booting from a USB" ?
For what purpose ?
What kind of USB device ?
What's on it ? Only the boot loader or the whole system ?

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#14405

From"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-04-08 15:15 -0400
Message-ID<mg3unm$1ae$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14404
"Pascal Hambourg" <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote in message 
news:mg3t19$1e31$1@saria.nerim.net...

> What do you mean exactly by "booting from a USB" ?
> For what purpose ?
> What kind of USB device ?
> What's on it ? Only the boot loader or the whole system ?

    I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file. I don't know if that's the 
whole system or a boot loader. I would say just a bootloader. I am not quit 
sure what to look for in a whole system. I have gentoo and archlinux 
downloaded files. bzip'd tarballs. Do I need a special USB iso? I am using 
F20 and don't know what system to put on or how.

    So I guess no. Not a whole system. But I'm not getting an error no 
system found. or such and such file is not present. Just something about DPI 
and everything halts. BIOS says a sandisk is being booted.

Bill
HTH

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#14407

FromPascal Hambourg <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org>
Date2015-04-08 21:29 +0200
Message-ID<mg3vji$1f02$1@saria.nerim.net>
In reply to#14405
Bill Cunningham a écrit :
> 
>     I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file.

Can you explain what you did to install... whatever you installed on
that USB drive ?

> I have gentoo and archlinux downloaded files. bzip'd tarballs.

What do you mean ? What kind of files ? For what purpose ?

> Do I need a special USB iso?

ISO images are designed for optical media. However some installation
media images are "hybrid", i.e. can be used either as a bootable ISO
filesystem or as a hard disk images. You need to write such an image to
a raw USB device using .e.g. (assuming /dev/sdb is the USB device)

dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdb

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#14417

From"Bill Cunningham" <mospam@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-04-08 20:14 -0400
Message-ID<mg4g7s$52j$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14407
"Pascal Hambourg" <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote in message 
news:mg3vji$1f02$1@saria.nerim.net...
> Bill Cunningham a écrit :
>>
>>     I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file.
>
> Can you explain what you did to install... whatever you installed on
> that USB drive ?

 http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php#windows-method-b

I know this isn't a distro but it was recognized by BIOS as a sandisk and 
then hung.

Bill

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#14408

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2015-04-08 13:03 -0700
Message-ID<mg41hi$d77$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14405
On 04/08/2015 12:15 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:
> "Pascal Hambourg" <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote in message
> news:mg3t19$1e31$1@saria.nerim.net...
>
>> What do you mean exactly by "booting from a USB" ?
>> For what purpose ?
>> What kind of USB device ?
>> What's on it ? Only the boot loader or the whole system ?
>
>      I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file. I don't know if that's the
> whole system or a boot loader. I would say just a bootloader. I am not quit
> sure what to look for in a whole system. I have gentoo and archlinux
> downloaded files. bzip'd tarballs. Do I need a special USB iso? I am using
> F20 and don't know what system to put on or how.
>
>      So I guess no. Not a whole system. But I'm not getting an error no
> system found. or such and such file is not present. Just something about DPI
> and everything halts. BIOS says a sandisk is being booted.
>
> Bill
> HTH
>
>


	I make my USB bootable drives from *.iso files just
as I do with making DVD/CD boot files.  I wish there was a
Linux wide system for making flash drives.  PCLOS has its own
Flash Drive writer and it is very finicky about the file
system on the drive. Still I have managed to make several of
these on cheap USB Flash sticks.

	Knoppix is a little better but again is making
only Knoppix Flash Drives.  Put it on a 8 Gigabyte Flash
drive though and you have a persistent preferences system.
I will be updating my Knoppix FD later today as Linux Pro
brought a new CEBIT special of Knoppix.

	I am currently having a bad time trying to make
a bootable Kali flash drive using "dd" according to their
own directions and having a bad time with that.

	Kali has some good stuff there.
	bliss

	

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#14452

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2015-04-10 13:56 -0400
Message-ID<mg92ra$bs1$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14408
On 04/08/2015 04:03 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

>
>
>      I make my USB bootable drives from *.iso files just
> as I do with making DVD/CD boot files.  I wish there was a
> Linux wide system for making flash drives.  PCLOS has its own
> Flash Drive writer and it is very finicky about the file
> system on the drive. Still I have managed to make several of
> these on cheap USB Flash sticks.
>
>      Knoppix is a little better but again is making
> only Knoppix Flash Drives.  Put it on a 8 Gigabyte Flash
> drive though and you have a persistent preferences system.
> I will be updating my Knoppix FD later today as Linux Pro
> brought a new CEBIT special of Knoppix.
>
>      I am currently having a bad time trying to make
> a bootable Kali flash drive using "dd" according to their
> own directions and having a bad time with that.
>
>      Kali has some good stuff there.
>      bliss
>
>
I have had good luck creating bootable versions of the Mageia LiveDVDs 
on flash drives using isodumper from the Mageia repositories.

TJ

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#14455

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2015-04-10 11:17 -0700
Message-ID<mg9428$ffe$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14452
On 04/10/2015 10:56 AM, TJ wrote:
> On 04/08/2015 04:03 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>      I make my USB bootable drives from *.iso files just
>> as I do with making DVD/CD boot files.  I wish there was a
>> Linux wide system for making flash drives.  PCLOS has its own
>> Flash Drive writer and it is very finicky about the file
>> system on the drive. Still I have managed to make several of
>> these on cheap USB Flash sticks.
>>
>>      Knoppix is a little better but again is making
>> only Knoppix Flash Drives.  Put it on a 8 Gigabyte Flash
>> drive though and you have a persistent preferences system.
>> I will be updating my Knoppix FD later today as Linux Pro
>> brought a new CEBIT special of Knoppix.
>>
>>      I am currently having a bad time trying to make
>> a bootable Kali flash drive using "dd" according to their
>> own directions and having a bad time with that.
>>
>>      Kali has some good stuff there.
>>      bliss
>>
>>
> I have had good luck creating bootable versions of the Mageia LiveDVDs
> on flash drives using isodumper from the Mageia repositories.
>
> TJ
	Thanks, TJ for the isodumper reference.

	bliss

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#14410

FromWilliam Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Date2015-04-08 21:01 +0000
Message-ID<mg44vq$p64$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14405
On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>
> "Pascal Hambourg" <boite-a-spam@plouf.fr.eu.org> wrote in message 
> news:mg3t19$1e31$1@saria.nerim.net...
>
>> What do you mean exactly by "booting from a USB" ?
>> For what purpose ?
>> What kind of USB device ?
>> What's on it ? Only the boot loader or the whole system ?
>
>     I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file. I don't know if that's the 
> whole system or a boot loader. I would say just a bootloader. I am not quit 
> sure what to look for in a whole system. I have gentoo and archlinux 
> downloaded files. bzip'd tarballs. Do I need a special USB iso? I am using 
> F20 and don't know what system to put on or how.
>
>     So I guess no. Not a whole system. But I'm not getting an error no 
> system found. or such and such file is not present. Just something about DPI 
> and everything halts. BIOS says a sandisk is being booted.

So, it is booting from the usb, but the structure ifscrewed up. 
Many systems have there "One" drives set up to be bootable, however you
cannot copy the file to the usb, you have to use 
dd
to copy it
dd if=distro.iso of=/dev/sdd bs=1M

Be very very careful as if you put in the wrong of= you WILL destroy
your hard drive (well the contents) 

>
> Bill
> HTH
>
>

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#14469

FromChick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com>
Date2015-04-11 13:57 +0000
Message-ID<mgb98k$r82$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14405
On 2015-04-08, Bill Cunningham <mospam@nspam.invalid> wrote:
>     I have used a clonezilla usb boot zip file. I don't know if that's the 
> whole system or a boot loader. I would say just a bootloader. I am not quit 
> sure what to look for in a whole system. I have gentoo and archlinux 
> downloaded files. bzip'd tarballs. Do I need a special USB iso? I am using 
> F20 and don't know what system to put on or how.

I've never done what you're trying to do, Bill, but I have some ideas of
where to look and what to look for.

You used Outlook Express to post this message.  Do you have Fedora
running on a PC?  If so, and you have a GUI running, see if there's a
menu selection for creating a bootable USB drive.  I've read that Ubuntu
uses something called unetbootin to do this, but Fedora might use
something else.  It might only give you the option of creating another 
Fedora system, though.

Search on howtoforge.com for instructions on creating bootable USB
drives.  I believe you usually create them using .iso files of live CDs
or DVDs.  I don't know what your Arch and Gentoo tarballs might be.

A lot of distros put instructions on their websites for creating bootable 
USB drives of their systems.  You can run a 32-bit Linux on a 64-bit PC,
but you can't run a 64-bit OS on a 32-bit PC.  Make sure you have the
right architecture (32-bit or 64-bit) to match your PC.  I suspect you
can use a 32-bit system to create 64-bit bootable media.

In short, this is something you'll have to do the research for to find a
solution, as there are too many variables to give you a simple answer.
Unless it has come out in the last couple of days, we don't even know if
your USB drive is large enough to hold a live CD, or if it's a thumb
drive, an external hard drive, or an external CD drive.
-- 
                                 Chick Tower

For e-mail:  colm DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net

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#14482

From"Bill Cunningham" <nospam@nspam.invalid>
Date2015-04-11 17:04 -0400
Message-ID<mgc29m$dgg$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#14469
"Chick Tower" <c.tower@deadspam.com> wrote in message 
news:mgb98k$r82$1@dont-email.me...

> I've never done what you're trying to do, Bill, but I have some ideas of
> where to look and what to look for.
>
> You used Outlook Express to post this message.  Do you have Fedora
> running on a PC?  If so, and you have a GUI running, see if there's a
> menu selection for creating a bootable USB drive.  I've read that Ubuntu
> uses something called unetbootin to do this, but Fedora might use
> something else.  It might only give you the option of creating another
> Fedora system, though.
>
> Search on howtoforge.com for instructions on creating bootable USB
> drives.  I believe you usually create them using .iso files of live CDs
> or DVDs.  I don't know what your Arch and Gentoo tarballs might be.
>
> A lot of distros put instructions on their websites for creating bootable
> USB drives of their systems.  You can run a 32-bit Linux on a 64-bit PC,
> but you can't run a 64-bit OS on a 32-bit PC.  Make sure you have the
> right architecture (32-bit or 64-bit) to match your PC.  I suspect you
> can use a 32-bit system to create 64-bit bootable media.
>
> In short, this is something you'll have to do the research for to find a
> solution, as there are too many variables to give you a simple answer.
> Unless it has come out in the last couple of days, we don't even know if
> your USB drive is large enough to hold a live CD, or if it's a thumb
> drive, an external hard drive, or an external CD drive.

    I use XP and outlook express as network tools. Well it came with the 
computer so I'm not going to throw it out. No my linux doesn't have a gui. I 
like cli and use f20 netinstall. And then yum the packages I want. I have 
used "links" to get on the web.

    The thing is now I just tried my usb 3.5" floppy drive and it's 
recognizing it too but now it's not booting either. I am going to try to 
rest BIOS from the F2 prompt. I am not sure where the CMOS chip battery is 
on my motherboard. I am familiar with unetboot.

Bill

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#14506

FromTJ <TJ@noneofyour.business>
Date2015-04-12 09:29 -0400
Message-ID<mgdru9$e6f$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14482
On 04/11/2015 05:04 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote:

>
>      The thing is now I just tried my usb 3.5" floppy drive and it's
> recognizing it too but now it's not booting either. I am going to try to
> rest BIOS from the F2 prompt. I am not sure where the CMOS chip battery is
> on my motherboard. I am familiar with unetboot.
>
It sounds a lot like the battery needs to be replaced. I just had to 
replace one in a 2006 Dell Dimension, which was displaying somewhat 
similar symptoms. What happened to me was that the battery was too weak 
to remember the customized BIOS settings, including system time and boot 
order, so it would revert to the defaults and mess up the boot. Biggest 
thing was that the default boot order was looking for a floppy drive 
that isn't there.

It'll be easy to find, once you've opened the case. Look for a 
nickel-sized disk held in a bracket. In my limited experience it's 
usually a CR2032 lithium battery, but don't buy one before you check, as 
it could easily be something else. Be careful when removing and 
installing the battery, as you don't want to damage that bracket.

TJ

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#14413

FromAndreas Kohlbach <apr15.7.ankman@spamgourmet.net>
Date2015-04-08 17:54 -0400
Message-ID<87zj6ib81m.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#14391
Bill Cunningham wrote on 07. April 2015:
>
>     Ok someone told me this needs to be done when booting from a usb. I have 
> looked all over and can't find the steps. To boot from usb I was advised to 
> use a uuid in fstab. Ok fine. Do I need to do anything with initramfs.conf ? 
> initramfs has to be alter too somehow. Does any one know anything about 
> this?

Booting from USB has nothing to do with Linux. Your computer either is
capable to boot from a (well prepared) USB stick, or not (in case it's
old).

Safest way to test whether it can is downloading a Live-CD image for
Linux, for example Ubuntu. There are instructions of how to get this on
the stick.

When done, see if the computer can boot. If not the boot sequence might
be wrong. On HP notebook and desktops you can press F9 very early after
powering up to select the boot device.
-- 
Andreas

I use a Unix based operating system, which means I get laid almost as often as I
have to reboot my computer.

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#14416

FromJ G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG>
Date2015-04-08 23:18 +0000
Message-ID<mg4cvq$mmm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#14413
On Wednesday, April 8th, 2015, at 17:54:13h -0400, Andreas Kohlbach explained:

> Your computer either is capable to boot from a (well prepared) USB stick,
> or not (in case it's old).

And if it cannot (because there is no BIOS support for USB booting), there is
a workaround: the Plop Boot Manager.

Install Plop Boot Manager on a floppy, CD, or even the hard disk, then
boot into Plop and then from Plop boot the image from the USB device, providing
of course that Plop has detected the USB device.

           <https://www.plop.AT/en/bootmanagers.html>

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