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| From | "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.unix.geeks |
| Subject | Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) |
| Date | 2026-08-30 13:49 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nfijltF3glU3@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2026-08-29 23:43, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 29/08/2026 12:21, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 2026-08-28 15:34, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-28 03:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 27/08/2026 19:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>> On 2026-08-27 14:13, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>>>> On 2026-08-22 03:40, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>>>> Are there phone models that somehow feature an 8P8C socket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other than IP phones, you mean?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But the 6P4C contacts on "conventional" phones and ISDN-style
>>>>>> keysystems like the NorStar and Panasonic PBX systems work very
>>>>>> well with a building wired for Ethernet. A 6P plug in an 8P jack
>>>>>> fits perfectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I understood what you are talking about correctly, the 4 pin
>>>>> analog phone plugs can go into the 8 pin ethernet plug, cabled to
>>>>> go at 10Mb, so that it connects to the 2 centre wires that are not
>>>>> connected to the ethernet hardware, but to the phone hardware. Ie,
>>>>> the strange sorting of the pins in the ethernet plug7socked is
>>>>> because the 2 centre wires were used for the phone service. I have
>>>>> seen this setup actually used.
>>>>>
>>>> Its standard for traditional 'structured wiring'
>>>>
>>>> The same CAT 5 carries phones on different pairs to the original
>>>> Ethernet.
>>>>
>>>> You patch in phone signals from the PABX rather than from an
>>>> Ethernet switch.
>>>> A dongle converts from RJ45 to local phone socket
>>>>
>>>> I wired my house that way.
>>> Me too. My house was built in 1951 and had only minimal phone
>>> outlets. When I moved in in 1985, TV coax had been pulled into the
>>> living room, and I added a couple more coax outlets, and pulled a
>>> second (modem) phone line into my home office, which happened to be
>>> right next to the telephone demarc box on the outside, so I just
>>> drilled a hole right through the wall.
>>>
>>> In 2013, I rebuilt the kitchen, and took the opportunity to identify
>>> every spot where one might want to put a computer, a telephone or a
>>> TV, and each got two RJ45s and a coax socket (well, only 6 got the coax)
>>> all wired to the bottom of a back hall closet, which became my wiring
>>> closet, and home to the cable modem and root ethernet switch. That
>>> has served me well. Of course, the landline POTS telephone service is
>>> long gone, and it's been a while since I dropped the coax cable
>>> service when I switched my Internet connection to fiber.
>>>
>>
>> When I wired my house, I did it for gigabit, so no, I did not put the
>> phone in the ethernet cable.
>>
> But you could out it in AN ethernet cable, just not one being used for
> Ethernet!
I put the ethernet (I can't see the type, it was painted over, but cat 5
or 6) and another cable specific for phone, which is not used.
--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.
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Re: [OT] Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 04:10 +0000
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Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 13:32 +0100
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:06 +0000
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-25 18:44 +0100
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 05:13 -0700
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:44 +0200
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 11:59 +0100
House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 06:34 -0700
Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:21 +0200
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 06:42 -0700
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 20:48 +0200
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:31 +0100
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 07:10 -0700
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-30 18:57 +0000
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:45 +0100
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-29 22:08 -0400
Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-30 07:16 -0700
Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:43 +0100
Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-30 13:49 +0200
Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 06:22 -0700
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