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Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones)

From "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.unix.geeks
Subject Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones)
Date 2026-08-29 13:21 +0200
Message-ID <nfftl8F3giU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2026-08-28 15:34, Lars Poulsen wrote:
> On 2026-08-28 03:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 27/08/2026 19:44, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 2026-08-27 14:13, Lars Poulsen wrote:
>>>> On 2026-08-22 03:40, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>> Are there phone models that somehow feature an 8P8C socket?
>>>>
>>>> Other than IP phones, you mean?
>>>>
>>>> But the 6P4C contacts on "conventional" phones and ISDN-style 
>>>> keysystems like the NorStar and Panasonic PBX systems work very well 
>>>> with a building wired for Ethernet. A 6P plug in an 8P jack fits 
>>>> perfectly.
>>>
>>> If I understood what you are talking about correctly, the 4 pin 
>>> analog phone plugs can go into the 8 pin ethernet plug, cabled to go 
>>> at 10Mb, so that it connects to the 2 centre wires that are not 
>>> connected to the ethernet hardware, but to the phone hardware. Ie, 
>>> the strange sorting of the pins in the ethernet plug7socked is 
>>> because the 2 centre wires were used for the phone service. I have 
>>> seen this setup actually used.
>>>
>> Its standard for traditional 'structured wiring'
>>
>> The same CAT 5 carries phones on different pairs to the original 
>> Ethernet.
>>
>> You patch in phone signals from the PABX rather than from an Ethernet 
>> switch.
>> A dongle converts from RJ45 to local phone socket
>>
>> I wired my house that way.
> Me too. My house was built in 1951 and had only minimal phone outlets. 
> When I moved in in 1985, TV coax had been pulled into the living room, 
> and I added a couple more coax outlets, and pulled a second (modem) 
> phone line into my home office, which happened to be right next to the 
> telephone demarc box on the outside, so I just drilled a hole right 
> through the wall.
> 
> In 2013, I rebuilt the kitchen, and took the opportunity to identify 
> every spot where one might want to put a computer, a telephone or a TV, 
> and each got two RJ45s and a coax socket (well, only 6 got the coax)
> all wired to the bottom of a back hall closet, which became my wiring 
> closet, and home to the cable modem and root ethernet switch. That has 
> served me well. Of course, the landline POTS telephone service is long 
> gone, and it's been a while since I dropped the coax cable service when 
> I switched my Internet connection to fiber.
> 

When I wired my house, I did it for gigabit, so no, I did not put the 
phone in the ethernet cable.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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  Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 22:31 -0400
    Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:36 +0000
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                [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones (was: Re: [OT] Re: The best Wi-Fi upgrade I made wasn't a new router, it was moving one piece of furniture) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 11:40 +0100
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                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2026-08-22 16:06 +0000
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                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-27 05:13 -0700
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-27 20:44 +0200
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 11:59 +0100
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                Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 13:21 +0200
                Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-29 06:42 -0700
                Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 20:48 +0200
                Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-29 21:31 +0100
                Re: House Wiring ... and other house stuff The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:45 +0100
                Re: House Wiring (Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-29 22:43 +0100
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2026-08-28 06:22 -0700
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-27 20:50 +0100
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-28 00:21 +0100
                Re: [OT] 10\+BASE-T on mobile phones "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-29 14:16 +0200
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