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Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop

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Rich <rich@example.invalid> writes:

> In comp.misc Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yasmpahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 06/18/2015 04:46 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>> >
>> >> In the classic application launcher (AKA "kicker"), there is no
>> >> way to disable the search field.  If you previously accessed items
>> >> in your application menu by using the first letter of the entries,
>> >> you're out of luck because the search field always takes focus,
>> >> and there is no way to disable it.
>> >>
>> > So who cares? I type an f and Firefox and FileZilla show up to pick
>> > from.
>
>> Previously, you hit the application launcher key, then the first
>> letter of the application, and it opens up.
>
>> Currently, as per your observation, you hit the application launcher
>> key, then the first letter of the application (which goes into the
>> search field), then you have to choose the application and hit enter.
>> Multiple keystrokes that have to be entered multiple times a day,
>> whereas before it was a simple two-key access.
>
>> The point here is that KDE is going down the same road that MS went
>> down, ie changing the user interface and not giving the user any
>> option to retain the same interface that they find perfectly
>> acceptable.
>
> Then don't use KDE.  I've had the same set of keyboard first letter
> keys for app. launch in Fvwm2 for going on near 20 years now, across
> four different physical computers and about 6-8 different Slackware
> version installs.  The only thing that has changed about the menu
> layout has been my adding, or removing, an occasional entry.  One
> keystroke to pop open the Fvwm2 menu, one keystroke for eacho the most
> common apps. I want to pop open.

Those Fvwm keystrokes are so embedded in my fingers, my biggest problem
is trying to remember when I'm on Windows.  I try to make them similar
but many things on Windows are just not possible.

Like you, my desktop hasn't changed since the late 90s.
It's just the way I want it.  Fvwm will never do a release
that changes how an existing users setup looks or works.

I often marvel at other users complaining about how the latest
release of what they are using has changed.  Why things change
with the config files remaining the same confuses me.

Nothing should change unless you ask it to.

Recently I was looking at Fvwm menus and I noticed how you
navigate through them with the arrow keys.
So, I decided, I sometimes have to use the arrow keys to
navigate, why don't I bind the arrow keys on the root
to invoking the menus.  So, I've bound all 4 keys on the
arrow keypad to bringing up menus.

Up -> Window Operations
Down -> Master Menu
Left -> Systems
Right -> Utilities

Not happy with that arrangement, because there is no logic
to it. but good enough.

-- 
Dan Espen

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[CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-16 14:08 +0000
  Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-16 13:57 -0700
    Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-17 08:58 +0300
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-17 05:42 -0700
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 13:46 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 13:29 +0100
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:07 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 23:37 +0100
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-20 21:23 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 06:17 -0700
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-18 16:34 +0000
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-18 13:43 -0400
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:12 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 13:47 -0700
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 14:46 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:20 +0100
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-06-18 23:14 +0000
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 16:42 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:52 +0100
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-06-17 16:18 +0000
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-17 14:18 -0700
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-06-18 13:56 +0300

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