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Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop

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In comp.misc Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yasmpahoo.com> wrote:
> On 06/18/2015 04:46 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> >
> >> In the classic application launcher (AKA "kicker"), there is no
> >> way to disable the search field.  If you previously accessed items
> >> in your application menu by using the first letter of the entries,
> >> you're out of luck because the search field always takes focus,
> >> and there is no way to disable it.
> >>
> > So who cares? I type an f and Firefox and FileZilla show up to pick
> > from.

> Previously, you hit the application launcher key, then the first
> letter of the application, and it opens up.

> Currently, as per your observation, you hit the application launcher
> key, then the first letter of the application (which goes into the
> search field), then you have to choose the application and hit enter.
> Multiple keystrokes that have to be entered multiple times a day,
> whereas before it was a simple two-key access.

> The point here is that KDE is going down the same road that MS went
> down, ie changing the user interface and not giving the user any
> option to retain the same interface that they find perfectly
> acceptable.

Then don't use KDE.  I've had the same set of keyboard first letter
keys for app. launch in Fvwm2 for going on near 20 years now, across
four different physical computers and about 6-8 different Slackware
version installs.  The only thing that has changed about the menu
layout has been my adding, or removing, an occasional entry.  One
keystroke to pop open the Fvwm2 menu, one keystroke for eacho the most
common apps. I want to pop open.

> Some people need to type into a search field and choose from the
> available options, others, like myself, are able to learn keystroke
> combinations, or *gasp* actually look at the cascading menu list of
> applications that are available.

> Forcing a search field in the application menu is the height of
> arrogance and stupidity, similar to what KDE did in the past with
> forcing baloo on users.

Agreed.  So stop using things such as KDE and instead go with a proper
X window manager where you fully control the configuration, not the
'upstream dreamers' controlling it for you.

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[CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood  <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-16 14:08 +0000
  Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-16 13:57 -0700
    Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2015-06-17 08:58 +0300
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-17 05:42 -0700
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 13:46 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 13:29 +0100
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:07 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "J.B.Treadstone" <jbt@dev.nul> - 2015-06-18 23:37 +0100
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-20 21:23 +0200
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 06:17 -0700
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2015-06-18 16:34 +0000
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2015-06-18 13:43 -0400
            Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2015-06-18 21:12 +0200
              Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Jon Danniken <jonSPAMdanniken@yaSMPAhoo.com> - 2015-06-18 13:47 -0700
                Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 14:46 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:20 +0100
        Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Johnny B Good <johnny-b-good@invalid.ntlworld.com> - 2015-06-18 23:14 +0000
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-18 16:42 -0700
          Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2015-06-19 11:52 +0100
      Re: [CM] Favorable review of Cinnamon desktop Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-06-18 13:56 +0300

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