Re: Let's not bluff ourselves.

From	noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair)
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.os.linux.slackware, alt.os.linux.debian
Subject	Re: Let's not bluff ourselves.
Date	2015-06-14 23:15 +0000
Organization	A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID	<mll5d6$bft$5@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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In article <op.xz61mbkra3w0dxdave@hodgins.homeip.net>, "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 16:06:34 -0400, ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> wrote:
>
>> On 06/11/2015 10:32 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
>>> Turn off secure boot, and don't buy a system where that cannot be done.
>
>> If you understand UEFI then you understand that on a service, this is
>> not a secure thing to do. The capacity of UEFI and the boot shell is too
>> powerful in order to run it without a signed binary.  Its a crappy
>> design, but that is how it is.  UEFI is an entire unvetted and insecure
>> OS that runs in bootspace.
>
>The restricted boot (aka secure boot) does not provide a secure boot
>environment. It's an illusion, that prevents unskilled people from
>running anything but microsoft crapware.
>http://hothardware.com/news/researchers-hack-and-bypass-windows-8-uefi-secure-b
>ook

Indeed. Otherwise, the "secure boot system" would clearly not run anything MS 
at all ... were that it's real purpose. :)

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Let's not bluff ourselves. no.top.post@gmail.com - 2015-06-11 17:42 +0000
  Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-11 11:19 -0700
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Harold Stevens <wookie@cindy.localdomain> - 2015-06-11 14:33 -0500
      Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-11 14:06 -0700
        Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. mm0fmf <none@mailinator.com> - 2015-06-15 19:09 +0100
          Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-06-16 01:37 +0200
            Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-15 18:13 -0700
              Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2015-06-16 09:14 +0200
              Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-06-16 23:08 +0000
                Re: Let's not bluff ourselves.  Off topic!! Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-16 18:40 -0700
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-06-11 22:40 -0400
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2015-06-12 11:32 +0200
      Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-12 07:27 -0700
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> - 2015-06-14 19:37 -0700
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. no.top.post@gmail.com - 2015-06-19 04:48 +0000
  Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Andreas Kohlbach <june15.6.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2015-06-11 17:25 -0400
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Joe <joe@jretrading.com> - 2015-06-12 09:04 +0100
      Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-06-14 23:14 +0000
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Unknown <dog@gmail.com> - 2015-06-15 14:24 +0000
  Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-06-11 22:32 -0400
    Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. ruben safir <ruben@mrbrklyn.com> - 2015-06-13 16:06 -0400
      Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2015-06-13 13:47 -0700
      Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2015-06-13 20:14 -0400
        Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-06-14 23:15 +0000
  Re: Let's not bluff ourselves. noydb@no.way (Bruce Sinclair) - 2015-06-14 23:12 +0000

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