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Re: OT

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: OT
Date 2026-08-25 21:32 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
Message-ID <5771mmx30v.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (14 earlier) <116797m$3knv9$1@dont-email.me> <116jhd3$3ht74$1@dont-email.me> <116jp3u$3khih$1@dont-email.me> <116juul$3l7js$18@dont-email.me> <116kggd$3t3ti$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2026-08-25 18:39, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/8/25 12:40:5, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 25/08/2026 11:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>>> They can’t actually figure out what this is: they get periodic uploads
>>>> of their own orbital elements from a central control on Earth.
>>
>>> Yes; I meant, they don't even give map data, they certainly don't have
>>> traffic info, roadworks, etcetera. The map data has to be in the
>>> receiving device, and traffic data and the like, if it displays that,
>>> must come from some other source, such as cellular or RDS if any
>>> stations still send it via that.
>>
>> Yes. It's a mystery to me how My GO app gets its data. I am not sure
>> that it is via the Internet at all. It has asked me 'is there still a
>> speed camera there' and it absolutely phones home so users in traffic
>> jams notify it of the fact.
> 
> That could be done automatically by them detecting (slow) speed.

It is documented that TomTom does this. Aggregated data from many users. 
It is opt-out: but in that case you also do not receive traffic info.

They also use public traffic information from the country authorities.

> 
>>
>> Googling implies it uses an API to connect over the internet. It cannot
>> be a lot of data as it never shows up in usage, much
>>
> If there's uplink of data - traffic jams or you answering that question
> - then it can't be RDS, as that's only one-way, so I _presume_ it _must_
> be via the internet. When you say it doesn't show up in usage, *much*,
> do you mean that it does show up a little? (Or, maybe, whatever monitors
> your usage doesn't identify when it's a small amount.)

It can work using a BT connection between the hardware navigator and the 
phone.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
  Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
    Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
      Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
        Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
        Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
          Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
            Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
              Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:40 +0000
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
          Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
        Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
          Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:36 +0000
          Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:43 +0100
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:08 +0000
              Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:03 -0500
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 03:50 +0000
                Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 05:21 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:16 +0000
                Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-22 10:34 -0500
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:40 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:42 +0100
              Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:09 +0100
        Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:43 +0200
          Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:06 +0100
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 04:11 +0000
              Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 03:20 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:28 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:41 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-23 01:07 +0000
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:08 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-23 16:53 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:57 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-23 23:20 +0000
          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-22 13:42 +0100
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:33 +0000
      Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
        Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
          Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-20 21:18 +0000
            Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:54 +0000
            Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:45 +0100
              Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-21 19:07 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:23 +0100
          Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
  Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
    Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:31 +0200
      Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:59 +0100
        Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:23 +0200
          Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:39 +0100
            Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:52 +0200
      Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:15 +0100
        Re: OT Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-25 07:48 +0000
          Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-25 11:00 +0100
            Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-25 12:40 +0100
              Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-25 17:39 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-25 21:32 +0200
      Re: OT Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 02:49 +0000

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