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Re: OT

From Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: OT
Date 2026-08-23 23:20 +0000
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On 2026-08-23, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 23/08/2026 17:53, Robert Riches wrote:
>> On 2026-08-23, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know someone with a VAX in his home office. Think it runs VMS
>> 
>> Any idea which level of VAX?
>>
> Not exactly. It runs of a normal 230V/13A socket
>
>> Not all VAX machines were the same.  IIRC, in the US a 750
>> required a 220V 30 or 40A power feed and some cooling, while
>> either a 730 or Microvax could be powered from a regular 120V
>> outlet in an office environment.  On the other hand, the 9xxx
>> models were a lot larger/hungrier/hotter.
>> 
>
> Don't think its a microvax. From online images an 11/750 ?

230V/13A could probably handle an 11/750.  In the 11/750 at the
small company where I worked in 1980-1983, the CPU and such were
in a cabinet about the size of a full-size washing machine, and
each of the DEC-supplied disk drives (26MB, RK07, IIRC) was
around 18-24" wide attached to the side.  A 160-470MB disk, about
14" diameter platters, could be stuffed into the bottom of a disk
cabinet.  RAM was 0.5MB from DEC and 2.0MB from System
Industries.

I wrote software to manage the customer contact database in an
ISAM file, where VMS supplied all the ISAM logic--IIRC from the
Record Management System/Services.  At first, the company could
only afford two $10K languages, so DEC BASIC and Fortran were it.
It's interesting to write database editing on VT100s in Fortran.

IIUC, after I left in 1983, TransEra BASIC was developed on that
11/750.

-- 
Robert Riches
spamtrap42@jacob21819.net
(Yes, that is one of my email addresses.)

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Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 20:45 +0000
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
                Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
                Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:40 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:36 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:43 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:08 +0000
                Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:03 -0500
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 03:50 +0000
                Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 05:21 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:16 +0000
                Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-22 10:34 -0500
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:40 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:42 +0100
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:09 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:43 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:06 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 04:11 +0000
                Re: OT c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-22 03:20 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:28 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 23:41 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-23 01:07 +0000
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:08 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 13:05 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-23 16:53 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-23 19:57 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-23 23:20 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-22 13:42 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-22 19:33 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-20 21:18 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:54 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:45 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-21 19:07 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:23 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:31 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:59 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:23 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:39 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:52 +0200
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:15 +0100
                Re: OT Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 02:49 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 18:07 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 02:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:10 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-18 00:48 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:26 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 08:55 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 21:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-20 21:06 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:50 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:55 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:18 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 04:32 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 05:34 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-17 19:08 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 23:42 -0400
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> - 2026-08-16 11:55 +0000

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