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Re: OT

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11, alt.comp.os.windows-10
Subject Re: OT
Date 2026-08-21 19:43 +0200
Organization Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming
Message-ID <1bfmlmx585.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <115vqf4$1a385$1@dont-email.me> <11653nv.12s4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <11656kh$307ud$1@dont-email.me> <1167cqv.t78.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <11678kd$3kgkp$1@dont-email.me>

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On 2026-08-20 18:05, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/8/20 16:41:47, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:


>>    A long, long time ago, in Australia, I was about to buy my first
>> dedicated navigation device, but hesitated several times. Eventually I
>> bit the bullet and bought my very first 'smartphone', with a whopping
>> '4GB' - actually 1GB 'free', if that 'much' - (non-volatile) storage.
>> Added a MicroSD card for the maps and never looked back.
>>
>>    But, as always, YMMV/YMWV.
> 
> I would imagine smartphones - plus the incorporation of SatNavs into new
> cars (are they a standard thing these days? I rarely buy a car - mine's
> twenty this half) - has more or less done for standalone devices, except
> for people wanting to drive old cars in areas where there's no cellular
> coverage, which can't be a very big market, so the price of standalones
> has probably rocketed.

I rented a car this past week, a Fiat 600e, and it had both TomTom 
navigation and Android Auto included in the large secondary screen.

According to <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTofng6Hjo> TomTom is 
dead. But I looked at their website and they are selling several 
hardware models, some of them for profesional drivers.

One new feature (for me) is entering in the config the size and weight 
of the vehicle.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:10 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-15 21:15 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 17:21 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-15 22:56 +0000
  Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-16 02:26 -0400
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 03:01 -0400
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 09:48 -0700
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:54 -0400
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 17:49 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:48 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:14 -0700
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:55 +0000
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 19:33 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:39 -0400
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-17 20:13 +0000
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-16 10:58 +0200
    Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-16 14:30 +0000
      Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-16 17:44 +0100
        Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 L Thorpe <lt666@sixsixsix.net> - 2026-08-16 17:01 +0000
          Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2026-08-17 00:52 -0400
            Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 16:58 +0000
              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 13:45 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-17 18:59 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:16 -0400
                OT (was: Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 21:20 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 16:42 -0400
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-17 22:21 +0100
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:23 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 14:34 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:24 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 15:40 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 18:44 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:51 -0700
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 11:20 -0400
                Re: OT John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 10:24 -0700
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 13:58 +0100
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 00:47 +0000
                Re: OT "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 20:51 -0400
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:01 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 04:55 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 02:55 +0000
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-19 18:30 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-19 22:19 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:41 +0000
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:05 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 17:57 +0000
                Re: OT "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 18:59 +0100
                Re: OT Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-20 18:48 +0000
                Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-20 21:23 +0100
                Re: OT Oz roads /satnavs Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2026-08-21 07:40 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:50 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 22:44 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:36 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:43 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 18:08 +0000
                Re: OT chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2026-08-21 16:03 -0500
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:09 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:43 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:06 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 20:05 +0000
                Re: OT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-20 20:26 +0000
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-20 21:18 +0000
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-21 03:54 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:45 +0100
                Re: OT Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2026-08-21 19:07 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:23 +0100
                Re: OT rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 22:12 +0000
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:16 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 12:31 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:59 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-20 15:23 +0200
                Re: OT The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-21 13:39 +0100
                Re: OT "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-21 19:52 +0200
                Re: OT "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-20 17:15 +0100
                Re: OT Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-21 02:49 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-17 22:51 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2026-08-18 08:39 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 03:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:15 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:25 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-08-18 21:44 +1000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 07:52 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:18 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-18 08:36 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 13:16 +0100
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              Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-17 23:40 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 "Joel W. Crump" <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 19:45 -0400
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:24 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-18 20:51 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 15:04 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 20:53 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-19 22:11 -0400
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 11:58 +0100
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2026-08-20 21:06 -0400
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-22 00:18 +0100
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                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:52 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:08 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-19 22:54 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-20 04:11 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 10:25 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 15:34 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-18 17:30 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-08-18 16:30 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-18 22:52 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2026-08-19 05:54 +0200
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-19 14:47 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-19 21:26 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0100
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 Leroy H <lh@somewhere.net> - 2026-08-20 01:42 +0000
                Re: Ahoy Pie R8s! New Win11 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2026-08-18 03:34 +0000
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