Path: csiph.com!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news.tcpreset.net!newsgate.tebibyte.org!.POSTED.40.red-79-150-120.dynamicip.rima-tde.net!Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: OT Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2026 19:43:29 +0200 Organization: Tebibyte_Retro_Gaming Message-ID: <1bfmlmx585.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <18cc1576469d353e$143557$916528$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <115spe5$ar9e$2@dont-email.me> <18cc57d1b90cd090$163871$704772$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> <115vhbg$16o12$1@dont-email.me> <115vmn1$18mrp$1@dont-email.me> <115vqf4$1a385$1@dont-email.me> <11653nv.12s4.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <11656kh$307ud$1@dont-email.me> <1167cqv.t78.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> <11678kd$3kgkp$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mailgate.tebibyte.org; posting-host="40.red-79-150-120.dynamicip.rima-tde.net:79.150.120.40"; logging-data="12259"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@tebibyte.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <11678kd$3kgkp$1@dont-email.me> X-Leafnode-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Xref: csiph.com comp.os.linux.misc:90293 alt.comp.os.windows-11:33886 alt.comp.os.windows-10:195132 (advocacy groups removed) On 2026-08-20 18:05, J. P. Gilliver wrote: > On 2026/8/20 16:41:47, Frank Slootweg wrote: >> J. P. Gilliver wrote: >> A long, long time ago, in Australia, I was about to buy my first >> dedicated navigation device, but hesitated several times. Eventually I >> bit the bullet and bought my very first 'smartphone', with a whopping >> '4GB' - actually 1GB 'free', if that 'much' - (non-volatile) storage. >> Added a MicroSD card for the maps and never looked back. >> >> But, as always, YMMV/YMWV. > > I would imagine smartphones - plus the incorporation of SatNavs into new > cars (are they a standard thing these days? I rarely buy a car - mine's > twenty this half) - has more or less done for standalone devices, except > for people wanting to drive old cars in areas where there's no cellular > coverage, which can't be a very big market, so the price of standalones > has probably rocketed. I rented a car this past week, a Fiat 600e, and it had both TomTom navigation and Android Auto included in the large secondary screen. According to TomTom is dead. But I looked at their website and they are selling several hardware models, some of them for profesional drivers. One new feature (for me) is entering in the config the size and weight of the vehicle. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;