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FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop

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  FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-17 17:36 +0000
    Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-06-17 12:58 -0500
    Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-06-17 13:53 -0500
      Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-17 20:25 +0000
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-06-17 22:16 +0100
          Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-06-17 17:26 -0500
            Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Soupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com> - 2013-06-25 13:41 +0000
              Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Aragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid> - 2013-06-25 15:49 +0200
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop buck <buck@private.mil> - 2013-06-18 21:47 +0000
          Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-18 22:52 +0000
            Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop buck <buck@private.mil> - 2013-06-18 23:02 +0000
            Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2013-06-18 16:06 -0700
    Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-06-17 15:41 -0400
      Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-17 20:43 +0000
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2013-06-17 16:19 -0500
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop root <NoEMail@home.org> - 2013-06-17 21:23 +0000
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-20 00:41 +0000
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2013-06-20 18:04 +0000
    Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Robert Komar <robk@robpc4.home.org> - 2013-06-26 22:57 -0700
      Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-27 12:19 +0000
        Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2013-06-27 13:28 -0400
          Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop notbob <notbob@nothome.com> - 2013-06-27 19:35 +0000
            Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Johann Klammer <klammerj@NOSPAM.a1.net> - 2013-06-27 21:39 +0200
              Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop Robert Komar <robk@robpc4.home.org> - 2013-06-27 20:31 -0700
              Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2013-06-28 09:45 +0100
              Re: FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2013-06-28 15:36 -0500

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#1850 — FYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-17 17:36 +0000
SubjectFYI: playing encrypted DVDs on yer desktop
Message-ID<slrnkrui6t.2mu.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
I run Slackware.  I truly love it, but like so many longtime Linux
distros, it is DRM'd.  IOW, no decss capability here.  Fear of the
copyright cartels has snipped its multimedia balls.  This is the trend
in long-lived distros not wanting to run afoul of the copyright sharks
that prowl the internet.

My ancient Sony Trinitron (CRT) TV finally went belly up and I now
have no way to watch the Netflix DVDs I'm subscribed to.  What to do.
My DVD player still works, but is too old to have any HDMI or other
current connections and my new 24" Acer flat panel monitor has no old
interfaces.  Again, what to do?  Tried installing a Slack pkg of VLC, but
gave up after 60+ pkgs and another 20-30 to go.  Screw that.  

Fortunately, there are some pirates afoot and they DO have the balls
and they do deliver.  The one I found is LiMP 2.5.  A mere 120M liveCD
and has all that decss stuff.  Includes xine and mplayer.  I've found
xine to me the better player, though they both work.  I notice LiMP
2.5 hasn't been updated since 2007.  Why?  Fear of Sharks?  Perhaps,
but what they left works.  My old P4 mobo with a mere .87G RAM works
damn good if the disc is in good shape.  Even the menu options work by
way of mouse clicks.  I'm amazed.  Burn it with K3B and beat the
sharks.

Dwnld the 2.5 zip file and unzip the iso and burn to DVD.  The 1.7 version does NOT
work.  Ignore it.  

http://tinyurl.com/n5zojy6 

NO!! ....I'm not ripping or copying.  Jes happy to be able to view the
DVDs I pay to watch on my superior computer monitor.  (BTW, much to my
surprise, the monitor aspect ratio works perfectly all by itself)  ;)

nb

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#1851

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2013-06-17 12:58 -0500
Message-ID<OsudnYoQTdLW0yLMnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#1850
At 17 Jun 2013 17:36:30 GMT notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

> 
> I run Slackware.  I truly love it, but like so many longtime Linux
> distros, it is DRM'd.  IOW, no decss capability here.  Fear of the
> copyright cartels has snipped its multimedia balls.  This is the trend
> in long-lived distros not wanting to run afoul of the copyright sharks
> that prowl the internet.
> 
> My ancient Sony Trinitron (CRT) TV finally went belly up and I now
> have no way to watch the Netflix DVDs I'm subscribed to.  What to do.
> My DVD player still works, but is too old to have any HDMI or other
> current connections and my new 24" Acer flat panel monitor has no old
> interfaces.  Again, what to do?  Tried installing a Slack pkg of VLC, but
> gave up after 60+ pkgs and another 20-30 to go.  Screw that.  
> 
> Fortunately, there are some pirates afoot and they DO have the balls
> and they do deliver.  The one I found is LiMP 2.5.  A mere 120M liveCD
> and has all that decss stuff.  Includes xine and mplayer.  I've found
> xine to me the better player, though they both work.  I notice LiMP
> 2.5 hasn't been updated since 2007.  Why?  Fear of Sharks?  Perhaps,
> but what they left works.  My old P4 mobo with a mere .87G RAM works
> damn good if the disc is in good shape.  Even the menu options work by
> way of mouse clicks.  I'm amazed.  Burn it with K3B and beat the
> sharks.

I run CentOS 5.9 (based on RHEL 5.9).  The RPMForge repo includes mplayer, 
which has libdecss statically linked in.  I can even play *European* (Region 
2) DVDs!  I believe there exists out there built binaries of mplayer that can 
be installed on Slack.

> 
> Dwnld the 2.5 zip file and unzip the iso and burn to DVD.  The 1.7 version does NOT
> work.  Ignore it.  
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/n5zojy6 
> 
> NO!! ....I'm not ripping or copying.  Jes happy to be able to view the
> DVDs I pay to watch on my superior computer monitor.  (BTW, much to my
> surprise, the monitor aspect ratio works perfectly all by itself)  ;)
> 
> nb
>                                                                               

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#1852

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2013-06-17 13:53 -0500
Message-ID<slrnkrumph.fne.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#1850
On 2013-06-17, notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
> I run Slackware.  I truly love it, but like so many longtime Linux
> distros, it is DRM'd.  IOW, no decss capability here.  Fear of the
> copyright cartels has snipped its multimedia balls.  This is the trend
> in long-lived distros not wanting to run afoul of the copyright sharks
> that prowl the internet.

    If you are running Slackware then you can find and build decss or any
other software you might want that isn't spoon fed to you.

    Non problem solved.

[deletia]

-- 
...as if the ability to run Cubase ever made or broke a platform.
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#1854

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-17 20:25 +0000
Message-ID<slrnkrus3h.2mu.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#1852
On 2013-06-17, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:

>     If you are running Slackware then you can find and build decss or any
> other software you might want that isn't spoon fed to you.
>
>     Non problem solved.

Prob solved, my ass!

Go to Slacky (recommended by VideoLAN).  Count the depenze pkgs.  I
quit at 50+.  Install abob's VLC build.  Sorry.  It does NOT play
encrypted DVDs!  This all on a stk 13.37 install that's worked fine
fer a yr.

I got yer "spoon fed" hangin'!

nb

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#1856

FromThe Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Date2013-06-17 22:16 +0100
Message-ID<kpnub7$cuk$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#1854
On 17/06/13 21:25, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-06-17, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>
>>      If you are running Slackware then you can find and build decss or any
>> other software you might want that isn't spoon fed to you.
>>
>>      Non problem solved.
> Prob solved, my ass!
>
> Go to Slacky (recommended by VideoLAN).  Count the depenze pkgs.  I
> quit at 50+.  Install abob's VLC build.  Sorry.  It does NOT play
> encrypted DVDs!  This all on a stk 13.37 install that's worked fine
> fer a yr.
>
> I got yer "spoon fed" hangin'!
>
> nb
>
I think you need libdvdcss or something. Its ahem. Widely available, 
just not necessarily in yer distro

Its the 'cracker' for MOST encrypted/regionalised DVDS.

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/libdvdcss/

-- 
Ineptocracy

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#1859

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2013-06-17 17:26 -0500
Message-ID<slrnkrv389.s5e.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#1856
On 2013-06-17, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 17/06/13 21:25, notbob wrote:
>> On 2013-06-17, JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> wrote:
>>
>>>      If you are running Slackware then you can find and build decss or any
>>> other software you might want that isn't spoon fed to you.
>>>
>>>      Non problem solved.
>> Prob solved, my ass!
>>
>> Go to Slacky (recommended by VideoLAN).  Count the depenze pkgs.  I
>> quit at 50+.  Install abob's VLC build.  Sorry.  It does NOT play
>> encrypted DVDs!  This all on a stk 13.37 install that's worked fine

   I could write a script or possibly even do an xargs one-liner to use
ldd to query what my media player of choice is using and tarball that 
whole thing up for you as a "MacOS style package".

   It's not the distribution.

   It's the end user.

   Any distribution is just a collection of upstream packages and perhaps
a method of spoon feeding those packages to the end user.

   Download the source and stop being a helpless idiot.

   A slack user that can't sort themselves out is an embarrasment, a poser troll, or both.

>> fer a yr.
>>
>> I got yer "spoon fed" hangin'!
>>
>> nb
>>
> I think you need libdvdcss or something. Its ahem. Widely available, 
> just not necessarily in yer distro
>
> Its the 'cracker' for MOST encrypted/regionalised DVDS.

   It's the missing bit that may of the fancier distributions require
you to manually download from some 3rd party source. Of course this is
all pretty trivial to determine even with the most incompetent attempts
at using Google.

>
> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/libraries/libdvdcss/
>

   If you can't play a DVD, you don't really want to.

-- 
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#1890

FromSoupe du Jour <soupedujour2000@gmail.com>
Date2013-06-25 13:41 +0000
Message-ID<kqc6m2$ddj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1859
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:26:17 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:


>    Download the source and stop being a helpless idiot.
> 
>    A slack user that can't sort themselves out is an embarrasment, a
>    poser troll, or both.
> 

I thought much the same thing. The guy claims he has been using Slackware 
for 13 years and he's not able to figure out how to play DVDs?

Something very fishy about that one... (flatfishy?)

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#1891

FromAragorn <thorongil@telenet.be.invalid>
Date2013-06-25 15:49 +0200
Message-ID<kqc6ro$71t$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1890
On Tuesday 25 June 2013 15:41, Soupe du Jour conveyed the following to 
comp.os.linux.hardware...

> On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 17:26:17 -0500, JEDIDIAH wrote:
> 
> 
>>    Download the source and stop being a helpless idiot.
>> 
>>    A slack user that can't sort themselves out is an embarrasment, a
>>    poser troll, or both.
>> 
> 
> I thought much the same thing. The guy claims he has been using
> Slackware for 13 years and he's not able to figure out how to play
> DVDs?
> 
> Something very fishy about that one... (flatfishy?)

Nah, "notbob" is just an old geezer.  He's been posting to the Slackware 
group for ages.  He's definitely not flatfish+++.

-- 
= Aragorn =
  GNU/Linux user #223157 - http://www.linuxcounter.net

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#1860

Frombuck <buck@private.mil>
Date2013-06-18 21:47 +0000
Message-ID<kpqkhv02diu@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1854
notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote in
news:slrnkrus3h.2mu.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net: 

> Go to Slacky (recommended by VideoLAN).  Count the depenze pkgs.  I
> quit at 50+.  Install abob's VLC build.  Sorry.  It does NOT play
> encrypted DVDs!  This all on a stk 13.37 install that's worked fine
> fer a yr.
> nb

NB.
You should have read Eric's text.  The binary does not include the 
copyright protected software.  While there is a place from which to D/L 
the fully functional binary, instead get Eric's source and SlackBuilds 
for avidemux, faac, ffmpeg. lame, libdvdcss and maybe also handbrake 
(Yuk).  Build and install (and never look back).

Then get his *source* (NOT binary) for vlc and build + install that.  The 
site supports rsync, which eases the D/L of all (52) those packages and 
patches (12).  The resultant VLC is well worth the "trouble".  It'll play 
damn near anything including BD, DVD and streams.  The effort Eric put 
into a monolithic VLC is beyond words, and the result is unparalleled.
-- 
buck

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#1861

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-18 22:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnks1p3i.2oj.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#1860
On 2013-06-18, buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:

> Then get his *source* (NOT binary) for vlc and build +

No.

I'm done with all that.  I've got LiMP.  I'll also be looking at other
slack derivatives or other distros that are more multimedia friendly.  I've used slack
for 13 yrs cuz it gave me something I wanted.  Now I want something
else.  That's what linux is all about.  If I can dual-boot slack and
whatever other distro I decide meets my needs, so much the better.

As for alienbob, I've no problem with him, whatsoever.  In fact, I've
donated $$ to Eric to support his efforts.  Have you?

nb

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#1862

Frombuck <buck@private.mil>
Date2013-06-18 23:02 +0000
Message-ID<kpqouc02g7r@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#1861
notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote in
news:slrnks1p3i.2oj.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net: 

> On 2013-06-18, buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
> 
>> Then get his *source* (NOT binary) for vlc and build +
> 
> No.

Since your head is firmly shoved up your asshole. I'll just buzz off and 
NOT need to dual boot an unsupported distro.

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#1863

FromBobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
Date2013-06-18 16:06 -0700
Message-ID<kpqos1$q8s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1861
On 06/18/2013 03:52 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-06-18, buck <buck@private.mil> wrote:
>
>> Then get his *source* (NOT binary) for vlc and build +
>
> No.
>
> I'm done with all that.  I've got LiMP.  I'll also be looking at other
> slack derivatives or other distros that are more multimedia friendly.  I've used slack
> for 13 yrs cuz it gave me something I wanted.  Now I want something
> else.  That's what linux is all about.  If I can dual-boot slack and
> whatever other distro I decide meets my needs, so much the better.
>
> As for alienbob, I've no problem with him, whatsoever.  In fact, I've
> donated $$ to Eric to support his efforts.  Have you?
>
> nb
>
	Well since this is totally off topic here in a hardware group
I think I will only say that the capabilities you seek come along with
PCLinux OS at least in PCLOS KDE 13.04.   Works a treat on my laptop
Compaq CQ60-215DX with Athlon X2 64 though I do have occasional 
problems.   This last Spring I switched from Mandriva 2010.2 PowerPack
and the 2011 Powerpack was unusable on this machine so I heaved a sigh 
and started trying various other flavors of Linux.  PCLOS had just 
released its first 64-bit version and I tried it out and liked it
but the 1st full 64-bit release came out before I tried to install it.
Kernel is 3.2.18 and KDE is 4.10.1 and is bit confusing for me but
solid on this notebox.

	bliss
	

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#1853

FromMichael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Date2013-06-17 15:41 -0400
Message-ID<alpine.LNX.2.02.1306171532560.16690@darkstar.example.org>
In reply to#1850
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, notbob wrote:

> I run Slackware.  I truly love it, but like so many longtime Linux
> distros, it is DRM'd.  IOW, no decss capability here.  Fear of the
> copyright cartels has snipped its multimedia balls.  This is the trend
> in long-lived distros not wanting to run afoul of the copyright sharks
> that prowl the internet.
>
> My ancient Sony Trinitron (CRT) TV finally went belly up and I now
> have no way to watch the Netflix DVDs I'm subscribed to.  What to do.
> My DVD player still works, but is too old to have any HDMI or other
> current connections and my new 24" Acer flat panel monitor has no old
> interfaces.  Again, what to do?  Tried installing a Slack pkg of VLC, but
> gave up after 60+ pkgs and another 20-30 to go.  Screw that.
>
I found a DVD player in some garbage last year that I figured wasn't 
working since the cover was off and looked like someone was trying to 
clean the drive.  It has an HDMI output, and it did play when I put it 
back together, though stopped when I put it on the stack.  I havent' got 
back to it.  My DTV is only 19 or 22 inch and only 2 years old, but it has 
analog input still.

I'm sure some of those DVD players I saw at garage sales on Saturday had 
hdmi output, I couldn't be bothered looking.  I'd planned to get a blu-ray 
player back in December, for the output and since blu-ray discs are 
starting to appear at garage sales, but I stalled and missed the sales.  I 
could get one for not much more than my DVD player was back in 2004. 
Plus, all the cheap blu-ray players I was looking at could be networked, 
one could even do wifi out of the box.  Kind of interesting features, I'll 
probably get one this December when the pre-Christmas sales kick in.


If some distributions play DVDs and others don't, then I would think 
Slackware could do it, you just have to do the work.  I thought I could 
play DVDs at one point on my old 1GHz computer, but I also remember some 
problems like maybe it wasn't fast enough.  Out of the box, I couldn't 
play MP3s, I had to add something, I can't remember if that's still the 
case.

If some distributions can play DVDs, then the issue is getting the stuff 
to add to Slackware.

   Michael



> Fortunately, there are some pirates afoot and they DO have the balls
> and they do deliver.  The one I found is LiMP 2.5.  A mere 120M liveCD
> and has all that decss stuff.  Includes xine and mplayer.  I've found
> xine to me the better player, though they both work.  I notice LiMP
> 2.5 hasn't been updated since 2007.  Why?  Fear of Sharks?  Perhaps,
> but what they left works.  My old P4 mobo with a mere .87G RAM works
> damn good if the disc is in good shape.  Even the menu options work by
> way of mouse clicks.  I'm amazed.  Burn it with K3B and beat the
> sharks.
>
> Dwnld the 2.5 zip file and unzip the iso and burn to DVD.  The 1.7 version does NOT
> work.  Ignore it.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/n5zojy6
>
> NO!! ....I'm not ripping or copying.  Jes happy to be able to view the
> DVDs I pay to watch on my superior computer monitor.  (BTW, much to my
> surprise, the monitor aspect ratio works perfectly all by itself)  ;)
>
> nb
>

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#1855

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-17 20:43 +0000
Message-ID<slrnkrut54.2mu.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#1853
On 2013-06-17, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:

> problems like maybe it wasn't fast enough.  

Actually, it is.

> Out of the box, I couldn't play MP3s, I had to add something, I
> can't remember if that's still the case.

Slack WILL play mp3s.  It will play audio CDs.  What it won't play is
encrypted DVDs.  That's the plain ol' movie DVD you get from yer video
store.  It WILL copy some DVDs, like guitar instructional videos, cuz
those are un-encrypted.  But Slack lacks a lotta multimedia support.
Both VLC and ffmpeg are huge pkg's and require a lotta depenze support
which slack jes does not have.  Even though Slack includes a working
version of audacious, an xmms clone, it does not support audacity, a
program that allows you to record mp3 files you may be listening to
from an audio CD or youtube.  Get it?  You can record from yer own box
and not hafta patch one box into another.  But, that's a 2-3 doz pkg
upgrade.  Inkscape!  Same thing. Requires ffmpeg.  Check Slacky and
count the depenze for that pig.

Hey.  I'm not complaining.  I LOVE Slackware.  Been using it
exclusively for 13 yrs.  Learned a lot.  How to compile code.  How to
admin a Linux box.  How to admin a network.  Monster cool!!  NOw, I'm
old and wanna draw and paint and watch crappy movies.  Slack sucks for
that!  Time to pick a distro that does what I want.  Isn't that what
Linux is all about?  ;)

nb

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#1857

FromRobert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com>
Date2013-06-17 16:19 -0500
Message-ID<MrmdnS-b1NbT4CLMnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#1855
At 17 Jun 2013 20:43:15 GMT notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

> 
> On 2013-06-17, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> 
> > problems like maybe it wasn't fast enough.  
> 
> Actually, it is.
> 
> > Out of the box, I couldn't play MP3s, I had to add something, I
> > can't remember if that's still the case.
> 
> Slack WILL play mp3s.  It will play audio CDs.  What it won't play is
> encrypted DVDs.  That's the plain ol' movie DVD you get from yer video
> store.  It WILL copy some DVDs, like guitar instructional videos, cuz
> those are un-encrypted.  But Slack lacks a lotta multimedia support.
> Both VLC and ffmpeg are huge pkg's and require a lotta depenze support
> which slack jes does not have.  Even though Slack includes a working
> version of audacious, an xmms clone, it does not support audacity, a
> program that allows you to record mp3 files you may be listening to
> from an audio CD or youtube.  Get it?  You can record from yer own box
> and not hafta patch one box into another.  But, that's a 2-3 doz pkg
> upgrade.  Inkscape!  Same thing. Requires ffmpeg.  Check Slacky and
> count the depenze for that pig.
> 
> Hey.  I'm not complaining.  I LOVE Slackware.  Been using it
> exclusively for 13 yrs.  Learned a lot.  How to compile code.  How to
> admin a Linux box.  How to admin a network.  Monster cool!!  NOw, I'm
> old and wanna draw and paint and watch crappy movies.  Slack sucks for
> that!  Time to pick a distro that does what I want.  Isn't that what
> Linux is all about?  ;)

I use CentOS (based on RHEL), 5.9 64-bit+xen on my desktop and 32-bit on my
laptop and have but have 6.4 32-bit and 64-bit as VMs on my desktop. I have
mplayer (from the RPMForge repo), audacity (from the RPMForge repo), and
inkscape (from the epel repo). I have the rpmforge and epel repos rsynced to
thumb drives (along with the CentOS updates). It was trivial to install off of
these packages with a simple command:

sudo yum --enablerepo=epel install inkscape
sudo yum --enablerepo=rpmforge install mplayer audacity

(I snarfed a rpm called 'mplayer-codecs-extra' containing additional codecs
from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/ and installed that
separately.)

(yes, there are a pile of depenencies, but yum took care of it - *I* did not 
have to hunt around for them.)

It sounds like you need distro like CentOS.

> 
> nb
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#1858

Fromroot <NoEMail@home.org>
Date2013-06-17 21:23 +0000
Message-ID<kpnunu$cv3$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#1855
notbob <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:
> On 2013-06-17, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> 
>> problems like maybe it wasn't fast enough.  
> 
> Actually, it is.
> 
>> Out of the box, I couldn't play MP3s, I had to add something, I
>> can't remember if that's still the case.
> 
> Slack WILL play mp3s.  It will play audio CDs.  What it won't play is
> encrypted DVDs.  That's the plain ol' movie DVD you get from yer video
> store.  It WILL copy some DVDs, like guitar instructional videos, cuz
> those are un-encrypted.  But Slack lacks a lotta multimedia support.
> Both VLC and ffmpeg are huge pkg's and require a lotta depenze support
> which slack jes does not have.  Even though Slack includes a working
> version of audacious, an xmms clone, it does not support audacity, a
> program that allows you to record mp3 files you may be listening to
> from an audio CD or youtube.  Get it?  You can record from yer own box
> and not hafta patch one box into another.  But, that's a 2-3 doz pkg
> upgrade.  Inkscape!  Same thing. Requires ffmpeg.  Check Slacky and
> count the depenze for that pig.
> 
> Hey.  I'm not complaining.  I LOVE Slackware.  Been using it
> exclusively for 13 yrs.  Learned a lot.  How to compile code.  How to
> admin a Linux box.  How to admin a network.  Monster cool!!  NOw, I'm
> old and wanna draw and paint and watch crappy movies.  Slack sucks for
> that!  Time to pick a distro that does what I want.  Isn't that what
> Linux is all about?  ;)
> 
> nb

Slackware isn't the problem. You need to get libdvdcss from
slackbuilds.org. Then mplayer will be able to play your
encrypted DVDs.

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#1867

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-20 00:41 +0000
Message-ID<slrnks4jrk.2tb.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#1855
On 2013-06-19, White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:

> If Slackware's package management system isn't doing it for you, try 
> Arch Linux instead.  It's like Slackware++ with a much better package 
> manager ;)

I hate to defect, but slack has taught me well.  I use Arch wiki all
the time.  

nb

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#1868

FromChick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com>
Date2013-06-20 18:04 +0000
Message-ID<kpvg79$usv$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#1855
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
> If Slackware's package management system isn't doing it for you, try 
> Arch Linux instead.  It's like Slackware++ with a much better package 
> manager ;)

I used to think Arch was similar to Slackware (my main distro).  Then
Arch started reconfiguring the system, and including systemd, so I
realized what a pain in the ass rolling releases can be.  You have to
make these changes yourself, rather than just installing and configuring
the next version of your distro that incorporates any such changes for 
you.  Arch plays on the bleeding edge, and when the developers start
switching directions and changing gears, the ride isn't so fun any more.
-- 
                                 Chick Tower

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#1894

FromRobert Komar <robk@robpc4.home.org>
Date2013-06-26 22:57 -0700
Message-ID<9r0t9a-jhg.ln1@robpc4.home.org>
In reply to#1850
I watch commercial DVDs on my Slackware box, and it only took one
external package to accomplish it.  You have to get and install
libdvdcss to do the actual decryption of the DVD.  Slackware comes
with libdvdread and xine, and with those two packages and libdvdcss,
you can watch DVDs.  Easy-peasy.

Cheers,
Rob

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#1895

Fromnotbob <notbob@nothome.com>
Date2013-06-27 12:19 +0000
Message-ID<slrnksobds.2nh.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net>
In reply to#1894
On 2013-06-27, Robert Komar <robk@robpc4.home.org> wrote:
> I watch commercial DVDs on my Slackware box, and it only took one
> external package to accomplish it.  You have to get and install
> libdvdcss to do the actual decryption of the DVD.  Slackware comes
> with libdvdread and xine, and with those two packages and libdvdcss,
> you can watch DVDs.  Easy-peasy.

Well, almost, though it does shake one's confidence to see such an
obvious solution put forth.  Why I thought I needed to install all of
vlc, I no longer recall.  

While your suggestion does indeed work, it doesn't work well.  Playing
a dvd via my usb dvd player/burner and xine yields herky-jerky
playback.  No doubt due to my ancient hardware, a wimpy 1.5MHz P4 mobo
with a mere 847M RAM.  I think the USB is 1.5, though it may be 2.0.
OTOH, playback works much better with LiMP, the ancient (2005) 100M
liveCD, though that has probs too, like accumulated packets piling up
and disrupting playback.  So, I gotta pause and let system catch up
about every 10 mins, then continue.  DVDs might play better on my
box'es IDE dvd player, which I'm loathe to use cuz I must partially
disassemble case and open player drawer manually, its digital eject
function and manual button unreliable.  Bottom line, I need a new damn
system!, which I'm currently researching.  Besides, jes got another
TV, so can go back to watching dvds with old std dvd player.

Anyway, thank you for the suggestion.  It would probably work
better with a faster system.  We shall see.  ;)

nb





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