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| Started by | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| First post | 2016-01-05 12:16 +0100 |
| Last post | 2016-01-06 08:36 +0000 |
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Advocacy! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-05 12:16 +0100
Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 04:08 -0800
Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:41 +0000
Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 12:45 -0800
Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 15:56 -0500
Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:47 +0000
Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 16:55 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:35 -0500
Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:36 +0000
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:31 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-05 07:54 -0500
Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:02 -0800
Re: Advocacy! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-05 09:22 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> - 2016-01-05 14:33 +0000
Re: Advocacy! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:51 -0800
Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 11:07 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> - 2016-01-05 16:36 +0000
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 12:23 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-05 19:30 +0000
Re: Advocacy! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 19:36 +0000
Re: Advocacy! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-05 20:53 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 09:28 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-06 08:51 -0600
Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:09 -0700
Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-05 21:21 +0000
Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 13:30 -0800
Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 16:42 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 17:25 -0600
Re: Advocacy! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-05 15:59 -0600
Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 17:25 -0600
Re: Advocacy! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 00:27 +0100
Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 20:51 -0600
Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-06 12:23 -0500
Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-05 23:45 +0000
Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 20:51 -0600
Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 08:38 +0000
Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-06 10:16 +0000
Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 10:33 +0000
Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-06 12:13 -0500
Re: Advocacy! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-06 10:15 -0600
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 11:53 -0500
Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:12 -0700
Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:40 -0500
Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 08:36 +0000
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 12:16 +0100 |
| Subject | Advocacy! |
| Message-ID | <20160105121624.1a73e6a8@maxa-pc> |
https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 " On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal computers. Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well. No, better than that — everything’s terrific. I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to people who care about freedom. "
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 04:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f95afedd-ca65-423d-bc46-e6b701bc348e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote: > https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > " > On a spring day in 2012... > Almost four years later, here I am,... The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? Or perhaps COLA's local anonymizer tool employing troll could offer some "how to" comments. -hh
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 18:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <thgjdmgnvj83a.3p@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #339831 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote: >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >> " >> On a spring day in 2012... >> Almost four years later, here I am,... > > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? > Thinkpads are not affected. > Or perhaps COLA's local anonymizer tool employing troll could offer some "how to" comments. > > > -hh
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 12:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #339882 |
owl wrote: > -hh wrote: > > Melzzzzz wrote: > >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > >> > >> "On a spring day in 2012... > >> Almost four years later, here I am,... > > > > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose > > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought > > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? > > > > Thinkpads are not affected. You sure 'bout that? "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation series." <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> -hh
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 15:56 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6hah2$oao$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339893 |
"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com... > owl wrote: >> -hh wrote: >> > Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >> >> >> >> "On a spring day in 2012... >> >> Almost four years later, here I am,... >> > >> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he >> > chose >> > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought >> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? >> > >> >> Thinkpads are not affected. > > > You sure 'bout that? > > "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once > again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and > workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation > series." > > <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> > I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and viruses. It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of business and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on their customers. My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful) laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't have replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on eBay. That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo. -- I arrived at his house with only 65% battery charge on my Linux netbook, but *** 9 hours *** later when everything was done, it still showed one hours battery life remaining ! It was powering the external 1TB hard drive the whole time. Terry Porter and yet another miracle Linux device. Run Linux on a netbook and the laws of physics no longer apply to batteries. <l7mdnbqugv8jG_fRnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@netspace.net.au>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 21:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ghjds03.a3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #339902 |
Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > > "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message > news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com... >> owl wrote: >>> -hh wrote: >>> > Melzzzzz wrote: >>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >>> >> >>> >> "On a spring day in 2012... >>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,... >>> > >>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he >>> > chose >>> > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought >>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? >>> > >>> >>> Thinkpads are not affected. >> >> >> You sure 'bout that? >> >> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once >> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and >> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation >> series." >> >> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> >> > > I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and viruses. > > It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of business > and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on > their customers. > > My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware > embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful) > laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I > couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They > eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't have > replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on > eBay. > > That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo. > This is my first Lenovo-branded Thinkpad, and I'm not thrilled with it at all. The 32GB RAM and vt-x allow for nice VM work, but build quality is not up to par. I had an IBM Thinkpad years ago and loved it.
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 16:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6hduq$62n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339913 |
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message news:ghjds03.a3@rooftop.invalid... > Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: >> >> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message >> news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com... >>> owl wrote: >>>> -hh wrote: >>>> > Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >>>> >> >>>> >> "On a spring day in 2012... >>>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,... >>>> > >>>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he >>>> > chose >>>> > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he >>>> > bought >>>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? >>>> > >>>> >>>> Thinkpads are not affected. >>> >>> >>> You sure 'bout that? >>> >>> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once >>> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and >>> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation >>> series." >>> >>> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> >>> >> >> I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and >> viruses. >> >> It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of >> business >> and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on >> their customers. >> >> My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware >> embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful) >> laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I >> couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They >> eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't >> have >> replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on >> eBay. >> >> That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo. >> > > This is my first Lenovo-branded Thinkpad, and I'm not thrilled with it > at all. The 32GB RAM and vt-x allow for nice VM work, but build quality > is not up to par. I had an IBM Thinkpad years ago and loved it. > I had my laptop before the various spyware and rootkits that Lenovo insists on foisting on it's users. The spyware nonsense is a good enough reason to avoid them. The sad thing is that I actually really liked the laptop that I got from them. It had a really good keyboard and I thought it was a very nice machine. Then right before the 2-year mark the battery died and they basically left me hanging. I could either buy a new laptop or get some cheap Chinese knock-off battery on eBay that'll burn my house down. Fuck 'em. The laptop is still alive today as a VM. I ran P2V and converted the physical machine to a VM. I don't do squat with it anymore but it's still around.
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 17:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6hgb2$e8a$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339902 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-05 3:56 PM, Ezekiel wrote: > "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message > news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com... >> owl wrote: >>> -hh wrote: >>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-bett er-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "On a spring day in 2012... >>>>> Almost four years later, here I am,... >>>> >>>> The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, >>>> yet he chose to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see >>>> if the machine he bought was one of those ones with the >>>> spyware in the firmware? >>>> >>> >>> Thinkpads are not affected. >> >> >> You sure 'bout that? >> >> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once again >> for embedding tracking software into its laptops and workstations >> from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation series." >> >> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> >> > > I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and > viruses. > > It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of > business and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other > manufacturers to not spy on their customers. > > My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this > spyware embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, > light, powerful) laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the > battery basically died. I couldn't find a replacement on their > website so I emailed them. They eventually responded and told me > they discontinued that model and don't have replacement batteries. > If I want a new battery then I should buy one on eBay. > > That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo. My wife's Lenovo laptop (purchased because she had a fondness for her old IBM Thinkpad), had a HD that died and hinges that basically left the panel hanging from the rest of the device. To say the least, it was pathetic. We bought her another Lenovo, but at least we were careful to get one with an SSD and very strong hinges. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWjEVCAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+u6UUH/RrOgCd1TCs1g37iYzcdjWaj Hew2r8KAU2a4wVNmU5s7H5zOxNVaXbggKdrctXEOfauhOV3G6yv/CBzSDdDYWyES gRpFbhh95hSxkIHr7owbvzlNUYvfOTktsqdb1wUrI6aQWEcGRykg7azF+aHL/5S3 UVC4GmUMKCOlDe2KhYaK57RULiCTGHQ/gL6OiXFU2OBY2uTsp51EFuDe8QUDJ59Z mQMaHLQEmMuPXh0a+FC30D13epLSbsQhRDxFpP3p69E3UTs9Kcz6h/lSWEW7vxui JAcLpR9HhKgvkj14NeiPA8PtMQ++VGZej6rt41PO4mfF2xxfw0WFFEFtSc6QLzI= =wrZS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 21:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ghjds03.rafeo@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #339893 |
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote: > owl wrote: >> -hh wrote: >> > Melzzzzz wrote: >> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >> >> >> >> "On a spring day in 2012... >> >> Almost four years later, here I am,... >> > >> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose >> > to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought >> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware? >> > >> >> Thinkpads are not affected. > > > You sure 'bout that? > > "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once > again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and > workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation > series." > > <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> > I was going by Lenovo's statement on LSE. http://news.lenovo.com/news-releases/lenovo-statement-on-lenovo-service-engine-lse-bios.htm "The software does not come loaded on any Think-branded PCs." These things are disgusting, and I won't defend Lenovo, but still they are Windows-only and don't affect my Thinkpad, which only boots Linux. I don't have a lot of praise for thinkpads other than RAM expandability for the price (at least as of three years ago). This one lost a keyboard column (8-i-k-,) after two years, and I've had to get by with a Logitech sitting on top.
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 17:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6hg34$e8a$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339893 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-05 3:45 PM, -hh wrote: > owl wrote: >> -hh wrote: >>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-bette r-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >>>> >>>> >>>> "On a spring day in 2012... >>>> Almost four years later, here I am,... >>> >>> The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, >>> yet he chose to buy a Lenovo. Anyone want to check to see if >>> the machine he bought was one of those ones with the spyware in >>> the firmware? >>> >> >> Thinkpads are not affected. > > > You sure 'bout that? > > "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once again > for embedding tracking software into its laptops and workstations > from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation series." > > <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html> Ugh, Lenovo. Not only is their hardware utter shit but they have to spy on anyone dumb enough to pay for it. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWjERDAAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uunQH/iKPkmW4jnlbnw9LfjWc0t3r xC3H1w1CzkeITLSmXBYb6k/9XKtIAEGXnA5coHcIFFACMyD9bf06GickQVZRCB/6 uS7xAQ11SqvpfXPGf4oe/q7H+2UQqa9qka+lEEZLdj3pYn7Et2owkc+4qlycjQfE qWS8up+s4OF5cACnI2HmNbiSVsUn6bdMDrVj6d2SMA+/6BYhzJKlIL1e+dTfeY2h hihfr5sXOqkbSejYf31IaTe0cvkEvLKSmo5eXHl6CmTmz7bgqJHvyzbnB4j+gsIl CnXe6MCMCdlNprb1VbaNWyrxNq9pKcG+UrO0NSj50W8mR8LA1cwEz4Rw9pptQdw= =tngw -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 07:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6gedl$654$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > " > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. > From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop > computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the > proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have > increasingly foisted on users of personal computers. > > Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop > computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not > on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well. > > No, better than that — everything’s terrific. > > I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, but > to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and > especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of > technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to > people who care about freedom. > " You left out the headline! I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected Saying goodbye to Apple and Microsoft has never been easier, or so satisfying This is "funny": A few months ago, when Apple introduced its iPad Pro, a large tablet with a keyboard, CEO Tim Cook called it the “clearest expression of our vision of the future of personal computing.” That was an uh-oh moment for me. Among other things, in the iOS ecosystem users are obliged to get all their software from Apple’s store, and developers are obliged to sell it in the company store. This may be Apple’s definition of personal computing, but it’s not mine. To be fair, he also bashes Google a little. -- You will be awarded a medal for disregarding safety in saving someone.
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n6haku$l9f$10@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339833 |
On 01/05/16 05:54, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 >> " >> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. >> From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop >> computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the >> proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have >> increasingly foisted on users of personal computers. >> >> Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop >> computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not >> on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well. >> >> No, better than that — everything’s terrific. >> >> I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, but >> to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and >> especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of >> technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to >> people who care about freedom. >> " > > You left out the headline! > > I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected > Saying goodbye to Apple and Microsoft has never been easier, or so > satisfying > > This is "funny": > > A few months ago, when Apple introduced its iPad Pro, a large tablet with > a keyboard, CEO Tim Cook called it the “clearest expression of our vision > of the future of personal computing.” That was an uh-oh moment for me. > Among other things, in the iOS ecosystem users are obliged to get all > their software from Apple’s store, and developers are obliged to sell it > in the company store. This may be Apple’s definition of personal > computing, but it’s not mine. > > To be fair, he also bashes Google a little. > You've been lying for Lienux for over a decade now, chris. When will you grow up?
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| From | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 06:02 -0800 |
| Subject | Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time. |
| Message-ID | <f969ee30-4bf6-4ef9-8248-577237b746c7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote: > https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > " > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. You mean Linux, don't you STUPID Person. Yeah, Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time. -- Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz? Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5 My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 09:22 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6gjfc$q20$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
On 1/5/2016 6:16 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > " > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal computers. > > Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well. > > No, better than that — everything’s terrific. > > I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, > but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and > especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of > technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to > people who care about freedom. > " Linux Format magazine still produces their mag on Macs. Linux won!
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| From | Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 14:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n6gk6t01q6c@news7.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. > 2012? It took him that long to see the light? The guy is a definite pansy. He is a pansy in other ways as well. Here is a statement befitting a stupid cunt: "There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn’t have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were too much for my limited patience in everyday use." Rough edges? We cannot expect any great specificity from a journalistic retard. What applications were missing? There were none. He was just too damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him. What did he need to do? I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead does at his machine all day. He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and so his panties began to itch. Limited patience? The complications were too much for his limited brain. His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes, cruise the web for frivolous trash.
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| From | John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 06:51 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4b282923-05a6-4d04-a456-8ce8ea30a44b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #339842 |
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 9:34:46 AM UTC-5, Vile Strong wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > > > > > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. > > > > 2012? It took him that long to see the light? The guy is > a definite pansy. > > He is a pansy in other ways as well. Here is a statement befitting > a stupid cunt: > > "There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn't > have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were > too much for my limited patience in everyday use." > > Rough edges? We cannot expect any great specificity from a > journalistic retard. > > What applications were missing? There were none. He was just too > damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him. > > What did he need to do? I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead > does at his machine all day. He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and > so his panties began to itch. > > Limited patience? The complications were too much for his limited > brain. > > His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the > stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes, > cruise the web for frivolous trash. Somebody should punch your lights out, Pansy. Just saying the obvious. I bet that you are only 10-years old, since your IQ is obviously about the same. -- Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz? Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5 My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n6ham2$l9f$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339842 |
On 01/05/16 07:33, Vile Strong wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: > >> >> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. >> > > 2012? It took him that long to see the light? The guy is > a definite pansy. > > He is a pansy in other ways as well. Here is a statement befitting > a stupid cunt: > > "There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn’t > have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were > too much for my limited patience in everyday use." > > Rough edges? We cannot expect any great specificity from a > journalistic retard. > > What applications were missing? There were none. He was just too > damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him. > > What did he need to do? I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead > does at his machine all day. He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and > so his panties began to itch. > > Limited patience? The complications were too much for his limited > brain. > > His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the > stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes, > cruise the web for frivolous trash. > Says the guy that takes PMS meds.
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 11:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6gpit$iho$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339828 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-05 6:16 AM, Melzzzzz wrote: > https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-t han-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9 > > " > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last > time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on > a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as > possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple > and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal > computers. > > Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop > computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice > Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All > is well. > > No, better than that — everything’s terrific. > > I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any > means, but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional > questions, and especially anyone who gives some thought to the > trajectory of technology and communications in the 21st Century. > Most of all, to people who care about freedom. " Good article but I have to mention one thing: it seems to be incredibly easy to get hardware working in GNU/Linux if a person runs a Macbook. I assume that it's because many of GNU/Linux's users use the operating system through that. As such, they've made an effort to support everything correctly. However, it's not the case for all computers and his experience doesn't extend to everyone. A student of mine last year also had a lot of luck with Ubuntu on his Macbook Pro. In fact, he ended up favouring it over OS X though that's not difficult considering how awful OS X is. - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWi+o8AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uyfQH/2Sc8QHWqTgAOpPNfP0a2/j/ DHE8vYYtG2bgxyUe8ig22rEnHFETFMym0DpmopfxIBTXyhTKi7IbVgdQDSsSajG7 wSHZ5rGHwE7BxEdZvPJwvud1OBwsA6fpGMIimSH8yx36TTDqQTG5ibGaF7VIoEXk ws1s3t8/Xin/PkcFdwYC2JWmMe6OWRrGqAtf0gQ2n9f/Ze6hF1ZS+Dws35thoGFr 9OjBmIF3FM/xQqCxw+7joY8FFXwx5VYt1RxMSWpQJLCN7DwtfJ2bNrAGBQ8sQoSx tc9cu4/gIe7wF/EY1BvsjysiqTKfSn7kMSAA2t1bMyXO6/nrim0vUUJDXVIX5h4= =36LN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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| From | Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 16:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n6grec0fjt@news6.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #339865 |
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:07:24 -0500, Slimer wrote: > > However, it's not the case for all > computers and his experience doesn't extend to everyone. > What a fucking boring, limp, lifeless, wan, lackluster idiot you are -- you and the rest of those COLA queers. Stay away from GNU/Linux. Your bloodless mentality can only do it an extreme disservice.
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2016-01-05 12:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n6gu0v$4ml$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #339870 |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2016-01-05 11:36 AM, Vile Strong wrote: > On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:07:24 -0500, Slimer wrote: > >> >> However, it's not the case for all computers and his experience >> doesn't extend to everyone. >> > > What a *plonk* - -- Slimer EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWi/v9AAoJEIwFfgf/rr+uyd8H/1tV2mb2dS49jGQJ8roGP9td AV9Tv9Z3ot9MdBr+FKkWNg+A4M9MPLUXhjU/7lhLbnFaSnBSQmeTkQDsZO8eKFNL x1W5aJpx6rv+xieOETr3gLcolnzG/VqoLSSOf2dn83YxkLpvBG/uonsUzFm/DfNF c/NvKCNYAd3wreAFi6pMgfMxxU/O8c2b6kNxeTfbt67b/JV//ElMOMPVIm0xRf3x 2jDfr/AU8P0ijfmnU63RoPMO2jHBoc22+SsJ2KPakUssFISdovvfJY5j2P+0RXrO 5yYVs9+fKOpsgQeMlkBHLGN7xdnzPZFZ6FGlwSthUD4IunzNhsBtyTDmdo4f9E8= =tKuk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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