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Advocacy!

Started byMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
First post2016-01-05 12:16 +0100
Last post2016-01-06 08:36 +0000
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  Advocacy! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-05 12:16 +0100
    Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 04:08 -0800
      Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 18:41 +0000
        Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 12:45 -0800
          Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 15:56 -0500
            Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:47 +0000
              Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 16:55 -0500
            Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:35 -0500
          Re: Advocacy! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-01-05 21:36 +0000
          Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:31 -0500
    Re: Advocacy! Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-01-05 07:54 -0500
      Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
    Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:02 -0800
    Re: Advocacy! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-05 09:22 -0500
    Re: Advocacy! Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> - 2016-01-05 14:33 +0000
      Re: Advocacy! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 06:51 -0800
      Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
    Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 11:07 -0500
      Re: Advocacy! Vile Strong <vs@zen.info> - 2016-01-05 16:36 +0000
        Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 12:23 -0500
    Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-05 19:30 +0000
      Re: Advocacy! ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-01-05 19:36 +0000
        Re: Advocacy! DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-01-05 20:53 -0500
          Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 09:28 -0500
            Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-06 08:51 -0600
        Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:09 -0700
      Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-05 21:21 +0000
        Re: Advocacy! -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-01-05 13:30 -0800
          Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-05 16:42 -0500
          Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 17:25 -0600
        Re: Advocacy! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-05 15:59 -0600
          Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 17:25 -0600
            Re: Advocacy! Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-01-06 00:27 +0100
              Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 20:51 -0600
                Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-06 12:23 -0500
          Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-05 23:45 +0000
            Re: Advocacy! Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2016-01-05 20:51 -0600
            Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 08:38 +0000
              Re: Advocacy! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-01-06 10:16 +0000
                Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 10:33 +0000
                  Re: Advocacy! "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-06 12:13 -0500
                Re: Advocacy! JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-06 10:15 -0600
                  Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-06 11:53 -0500
                  Re: Advocacy! GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-01-06 13:12 -0700
        Re: Advocacy! Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-05 17:40 -0500
        Re: Advocacy! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2016-01-06 08:36 +0000

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#339828 — Advocacy!

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2016-01-05 12:16 +0100
SubjectAdvocacy!
Message-ID<20160105121624.1a73e6a8@maxa-pc>
https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
"
On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal computers.

Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well.

No, better than that — everything’s terrific.

I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means,
but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and
especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of
technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to
people who care about freedom.
"

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#339831

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2016-01-05 04:08 -0800
Message-ID<f95afedd-ca65-423d-bc46-e6b701bc348e@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#339828
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote:
> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
> "
> On a spring day in 2012...
> Almost four years later, here I am,...

The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose 
to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought 
was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?  

Or perhaps COLA's local anonymizer tool employing troll could offer some "how to" comments.


-hh

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#339882

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 18:41 +0000
Message-ID<thgjdmgnvj83a.3p@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339831
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>> "
>> On a spring day in 2012...
>> Almost four years later, here I am,...
> 
> The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose 
> to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought 
> was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?  
> 

Thinkpads are not affected.

> Or perhaps COLA's local anonymizer tool employing troll could offer some "how to" comments.
> 
> 
> -hh

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#339893

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2016-01-05 12:45 -0800
Message-ID<0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#339882
owl wrote:
> -hh  wrote:
> >  Melzzzzz wrote:
> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
> >> 
> >> "On a spring day in 2012...
> >> Almost four years later, here I am,...
> > 
> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose 
> > to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought 
> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?  
> > 
> 
> Thinkpads are not affected.


You sure 'bout that?

"Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once 
again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and 
workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation
series."

<thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>


-hh

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#339902

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-05 15:56 -0500
Message-ID<n6hah2$oao$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339893
"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com...
> owl wrote:
>> -hh  wrote:
>> >  Melzzzzz wrote:
>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>> >>
>> >> "On a spring day in 2012...
>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>> >
>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he 
>> > chose
>> > to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought
>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?
>> >
>>
>> Thinkpads are not affected.
>
>
> You sure 'bout that?
>
> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once
> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and
> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation
> series."
>
> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>
>

I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and viruses.

It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of business 
and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on 
their customers.

My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware 
embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful) 
laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I 
couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They 
eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't have 
replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on 
eBay.

That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo.

-- 
I arrived at his house with only 65% battery charge on my Linux netbook, but 
*** 9 hours *** later when everything was done, it still showed one hours 
battery life remaining !

It was powering the external 1TB hard drive the whole time.

Terry Porter and yet another miracle Linux device. Run Linux on a netbook 
and the laws of physics no longer apply to batteries.
<l7mdnbqugv8jG_fRnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@netspace.net.au>

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#339913

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 21:47 +0000
Message-ID<ghjds03.a3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339902
Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
> 
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
> news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com...
>> owl wrote:
>>> -hh  wrote:
>>> >  Melzzzzz wrote:
>>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>>> >>
>>> >> "On a spring day in 2012...
>>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>>> >
>>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he 
>>> > chose
>>> > to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought
>>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Thinkpads are not affected.
>>
>>
>> You sure 'bout that?
>>
>> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once
>> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and
>> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation
>> series."
>>
>> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>
>>
> 
> I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and viruses.
> 
> It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of business 
> and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on 
> their customers.
> 
> My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware 
> embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful) 
> laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I 
> couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They 
> eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't have 
> replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on 
> eBay.
> 
> That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo.
> 

This is my first Lenovo-branded Thinkpad, and I'm not thrilled with it
at all.  The 32GB RAM and vt-x allow for nice VM work, but build quality
is not up to par.  I had an IBM Thinkpad years ago and loved it. 

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#339916

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2016-01-05 16:55 -0500
Message-ID<n6hduq$62n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339913
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message 
news:ghjds03.a3@rooftop.invalid...
> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
>> news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com...
>>> owl wrote:
>>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>> >  Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "On a spring day in 2012...
>>>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>>>> >
>>>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he
>>>> > chose
>>>> > to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he 
>>>> > bought
>>>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Thinkpads are not affected.
>>>
>>>
>>> You sure 'bout that?
>>>
>>> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once
>>> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and
>>> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation
>>> series."
>>>
>>> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>
>>>
>>
>> I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and 
>> viruses.
>>
>> It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of 
>> business
>> and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other manufacturers to not spy on
>> their customers.
>>
>> My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this spyware
>> embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small, light, powerful)
>> laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the battery basically died. I
>> couldn't find a replacement on their website so I emailed them. They
>> eventually responded and told me they discontinued that model and don't 
>> have
>> replacement batteries. If I want a new battery then I should buy one on
>> eBay.
>>
>> That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo.
>>
>
> This is my first Lenovo-branded Thinkpad, and I'm not thrilled with it
> at all.  The 32GB RAM and vt-x allow for nice VM work, but build quality
> is not up to par.  I had an IBM Thinkpad years ago and loved it.
>

I had my laptop before the various spyware and rootkits that Lenovo insists 
on foisting on it's users. The spyware nonsense is a good enough reason to 
avoid them.

The sad thing is that I actually really liked the laptop that I got from 
them. It had a really good keyboard and I thought it was a very nice 
machine. Then right before the 2-year mark the battery died and they 
basically left me hanging. I could either buy a new laptop or get some cheap 
Chinese knock-off battery on eBay that'll burn my house down. Fuck 'em.

The laptop is still alive today as a VM. I ran P2V and converted the 
physical machine to a VM. I don't do squat with it anymore but it's still 
around.





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#339925

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-05 17:35 -0500
Message-ID<n6hgb2$e8a$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339902
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On 2016-01-05 3:56 PM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message 
> news:0a84c21f-d696-4014-a51c-a4cee2e9b64b@googlegroups.com...
>> owl wrote:
>>> -hh  wrote:
>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-bett
er-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
"On a spring day in 2012...
>>>>> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>>>> 
>>>> The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance,
>>>> yet he chose to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see
>>>> if the machine he bought was one of those ones with the
>>>> spyware in the firmware?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thinkpads are not affected.
>> 
>> 
>> You sure 'bout that?
>> 
>> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once again
>> for embedding tracking software into its laptops and workstations
>> from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation series."
>> 
>> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>
>> 
> 
> I hope that every device Lenovo makes is infected with spyware and
> viruses.
> 
> It'll accomplish two things. One is to put those dirt bags out of
> business and secondly it'll be a wake-up call to other
> manufacturers to not spy on their customers.
> 
> My issue with Lenovo was about 5 years ago before any of this
> spyware embedded in the BIOS nonsense. I bought a nice (small,
> light, powerful) laptop from them. About 1.5 years later the
> battery basically died. I couldn't find a replacement on their
> website so I emailed them. They eventually responded and told me
> they discontinued that model and don't have replacement batteries.
> If I want a new battery then I should buy one on eBay.
> 
> That was my first and last purchase from Lenovo.

My wife's Lenovo laptop (purchased because she had a fondness for her
old IBM Thinkpad), had a HD that died and hinges that basically left
the panel hanging from the rest of the device. To say the least, it
was pathetic.

We bought her another Lenovo, but at least we were careful to get one
with an SSD and very strong hinges.


- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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#339911

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-01-05 21:36 +0000
Message-ID<ghjds03.rafeo@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#339893
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> owl wrote:
>> -hh  wrote:
>> >  Melzzzzz wrote:
>> >> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>> >> 
>> >> "On a spring day in 2012...
>> >> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>> > 
>> > The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance, yet he chose 
>> > to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if the machine he bought 
>> > was one of those ones with the spyware in the firmware?  
>> > 
>> 
>> Thinkpads are not affected.
> 
> 
> You sure 'bout that?
> 
> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once 
> again for embedding tracking software into its laptops and 
> workstations from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation
> series."
> 
> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>
> 
 
I was going by Lenovo's statement on LSE.

http://news.lenovo.com/news-releases/lenovo-statement-on-lenovo-service-engine-lse-bios.htm
"The software does not come loaded on any Think-branded PCs."

These things are disgusting, and I won't defend Lenovo, but still they
are Windows-only and don't affect my Thinkpad, which only boots Linux.
I don't have a lot of praise for thinkpads other than RAM expandability
for the price (at least as of three years ago).  This one lost a keyboard
column (8-i-k-,) after two years, and I've had to get by with a Logitech
sitting on top.

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#339922

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-05 17:31 -0500
Message-ID<n6hg34$e8a$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339893
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On 2016-01-05 3:45 PM, -hh wrote:
> owl wrote:
>> -hh  wrote:
>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-bette
r-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
"On a spring day in 2012...
>>>> Almost four years later, here I am,...
>>> 
>>> The irony is that the author's angst is against surveillance,
>>> yet he chose to buy a Lenovo.   Anyone want to check to see if
>>> the machine he bought was one of those ones with the spyware in
>>> the firmware?
>>> 
>> 
>> Thinkpads are not affected.
> 
> 
> You sure 'bout that?
> 
> "Now, the Chinese computer manufacturer is making news once again
> for embedding tracking software into its laptops and workstations
> from Lenovo ThinkPad, ThinkCentre, and ThinkStation series."
> 
> <thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html>

Ugh, Lenovo. Not only is their hardware utter shit but they have to
spy on anyone dumb enough to pay for it.


- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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#339833

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2016-01-05 07:54 -0500
Message-ID<n6gedl$654$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339828
Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
> "
> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time.
> From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop
> computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the
> proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have
> increasingly foisted on users of personal computers.
>
> Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop
> computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not
> on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well.
>
> No, better than that — everything’s terrific.
>
> I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, but
> to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and
> especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of
> technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to
> people who care about freedom.
> "

You left out the headline!

   I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected
   Saying goodbye to Apple and Microsoft has never been easier, or so
   satisfying

This is "funny":

   A few months ago, when Apple introduced its iPad Pro, a large tablet with
   a keyboard, CEO Tim Cook called it the “clearest expression of our vision
   of the future of personal computing.” That was an uh-oh moment for me.
   Among other things, in the iOS ecosystem users are obliged to get all
   their software from Apple’s store, and developers are obliged to sell it
   in the company store. This may be Apple’s definition of personal
   computing, but it’s not mine.

To be fair, he also bashes Google a little.

-- 
You will be awarded a medal for disregarding safety in saving someone.

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#339904

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
Message-ID<n6haku$l9f$10@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339833
On 01/05/16 05:54, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Melzzzzz wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>> "
>> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time.
>>  From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop
>> computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the
>> proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have
>> increasingly foisted on users of personal computers.
>>
>> Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop
>> computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not
>> on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well.
>>
>> No, better than that — everything’s terrific.
>>
>> I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means, but
>> to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and
>> especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of
>> technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to
>> people who care about freedom.
>> "
>
> You left out the headline!
>
>     I Moved to Linux and It’s Even Better Than I Expected
>     Saying goodbye to Apple and Microsoft has never been easier, or so
>     satisfying
>
> This is "funny":
>
>     A few months ago, when Apple introduced its iPad Pro, a large tablet with
>     a keyboard, CEO Tim Cook called it the “clearest expression of our vision
>     of the future of personal computing.” That was an uh-oh moment for me.
>     Among other things, in the iOS ecosystem users are obliged to get all
>     their software from Apple’s store, and developers are obliged to sell it
>     in the company store. This may be Apple’s definition of personal
>     computing, but it’s not mine.
>
> To be fair, he also bashes Google a little.
>

You've been lying for Lienux for over a decade now, chris.
When will you grow up?

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#339839 — Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time.

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 06:02 -0800
SubjectMelzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time.
Message-ID<f969ee30-4bf6-4ef9-8248-577237b746c7@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#339828
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 6:16:27 AM UTC-5, Melzzzzz wrote:
> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
> "
> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux.


You mean Linux, don't you STUPID Person.

Yeah, Melzzzzz has been a dumb fuck for a very long time.
--
Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE
Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz?
Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj
Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y
Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b
the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5
My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g

Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.

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#339841

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2016-01-05 09:22 -0500
Message-ID<n6gjfc$q20$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339828
On 1/5/2016 6:16 AM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-than-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
> "
> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal computers.
>
> Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All is well.
>
> No, better than that — everything’s terrific.
>
> I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any means,
> but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional questions, and
> especially anyone who gives some thought to the trajectory of
> technology and communications in the 21st Century. Most of all, to
> people who care about freedom.
> "


Linux Format magazine still produces their mag on Macs.

Linux won!



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#339842

FromVile Strong <vs@zen.info>
Date2016-01-05 14:33 +0000
Message-ID<n6gk6t01q6c@news7.newsguy.com>
In reply to#339828
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

>
> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time.
> 

2012?  It took him that long to see the light?  The guy is
a definite pansy.

He is a pansy in other ways as well.  Here is a statement befitting
a stupid cunt:

"There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn’t 
have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were
too much for my limited patience in everyday use."

Rough edges?  We cannot expect any great specificity from a
journalistic retard.

What applications were missing?  There were none.  He was just too
damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him.

What did he need to do?  I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead
does at his machine all day.  He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and
so his panties began to itch.

Limited patience?  The complications were too much for his limited
brain.

His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the
stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes,
cruise the web for frivolous trash.

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#339848

FromJohn Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-05 06:51 -0800
Message-ID<4b282923-05a6-4d04-a456-8ce8ea30a44b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#339842
On Tuesday, January 5, 2016 at 9:34:46 AM UTC-5, Vile Strong wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
> 
> >
> > On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time.
> > 
> 
> 2012?  It took him that long to see the light?  The guy is
> a definite pansy.
> 
> He is a pansy in other ways as well.  Here is a statement befitting
> a stupid cunt:
> 
> "There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn't 
> have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were
> too much for my limited patience in everyday use."
> 
> Rough edges?  We cannot expect any great specificity from a
> journalistic retard.
> 
> What applications were missing?  There were none.  He was just too
> damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him.
> 
> What did he need to do?  I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead
> does at his machine all day.  He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and
> so his panties began to itch.
> 
> Limited patience?  The complications were too much for his limited
> brain.
> 
> His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the
> stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes,
> cruise the web for frivolous trash.


Somebody should punch your lights out, Pansy.

Just saying the obvious.

I bet that you are only 10-years old, since your IQ is obviously about the same.
--
Je suis Moi, Ubuntu/Linux DE
Have you been deceived by the American bully, Richard Stallman? Are you just a gnu/Linux Putz?
Main GNU spiel: http://tinyurl.com/qzxnnoj
Preplacing GNU with Ubuntu spiel: http://tinyurl.com/h9x4u8y
Ubuntu 14.04 shipped musl/libc as an optional package: http://tinyurl.com/jkthv6b
the smallest statically linked C program being 1.8K with musl/libc vs 662K with glibc: http://tinyurl.com/3rswng5
My Linux position spiel: http://tinyurl.com/zesmq9g

Sorry, but Moi is much smarter than a Stupid person bragging about how little they really know about Linux.

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#339905

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2016-01-05 13:58 -0700
Message-ID<n6ham2$l9f$11@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339842
On 01/05/16 07:33, Vile Strong wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 12:16:24 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>
>>
>> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last time.
>>
>
> 2012?  It took him that long to see the light?  The guy is
> a definite pansy.
>
> He is a pansy in other ways as well.  Here is a statement befitting
> a stupid cunt:
>
> "There were too many rough edges, and for a long time Linux didn’t
> have enough applications to do what I needed. The complications were
> too much for my limited patience in everyday use."
>
> Rough edges?  We cannot expect any great specificity from a
> journalistic retard.
>
> What applications were missing?  There were none.  He was just too
> damned stupid to discern the extreme utility that confronted him.
>
> What did he need to do?  I can just imagine what that shallow dickhead
> does at his machine all day.  He couldn't find the "Solitaire" and
> so his panties began to itch.
>
> Limited patience?  The complications were too much for his limited
> brain.
>
> His whole fucking article is intended only to induce drooling in the
> stupefied millenials that, while supping their breakfast lattes,
> cruise the web for frivolous trash.
>
Says the guy that takes PMS meds.

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#339865

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-05 11:07 -0500
Message-ID<n6gpit$iho$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339828
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On 2016-01-05 6:16 AM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> https://medium.com/backchannel/i-moved-to-linux-and-it-s-even-better-t
han-i-expected-9f2dcac3f8fb#.4t5j5h8a9
>
> 
"
> On a spring day in 2012, I shut down my MacBook Air for the last
> time. From then on, my primary computing environment — at least on
> a laptop computer — was GNU/Linux. I was abandoning, as much as
> possible, the proprietary, control-freakish environments that Apple
> and Microsoft have increasingly foisted on users of personal
> computers.
> 
> Almost four years later, here I am, writing this piece on a laptop
> computer running the Linux* operating system and LibreOffice
> Writer, not on a Mac or Windows machine using Microsoft Word. All
> is well.
> 
> No, better than that — everything’s terrific.
> 
> I’d recommend this move to lots of folks — not everyone, by any
> means, but to anyone who isn’t afraid to ask some occasional
> questions, and especially anyone who gives some thought to the
> trajectory of technology and communications in the 21st Century.
> Most of all, to people who care about freedom. "

Good article but I have to mention one thing: it seems to be
incredibly easy to get hardware working in GNU/Linux if a person runs
a Macbook. I assume that it's because many of GNU/Linux's users use
the operating system through that. As such, they've made an effort to
support everything correctly. However, it's not the case for all
computers and his experience doesn't extend to everyone.

A student of mine last year also had a lot of luck with Ubuntu on his
Macbook Pro. In fact, he ended up favouring it over OS X though that's
not difficult considering how awful OS X is.


- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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#339870

FromVile Strong <vs@zen.info>
Date2016-01-05 16:36 +0000
Message-ID<n6grec0fjt@news6.newsguy.com>
In reply to#339865
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:07:24 -0500, Slimer wrote:

>
> However, it's not the case for all
> computers and his experience doesn't extend to everyone.
> 

What a fucking boring, limp, lifeless, wan, lackluster idiot
you are -- you and the rest of those COLA queers.

Stay away from GNU/Linux.  Your bloodless mentality can only
do it an extreme disservice.

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#339877

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2016-01-05 12:23 -0500
Message-ID<n6gu0v$4ml$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#339870
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On 2016-01-05 11:36 AM, Vile Strong wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 11:07:24 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>> 
>> However, it's not the case for all computers and his experience
>> doesn't extend to everyone.
>> 
> 
> What a

*plonk*

- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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