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| Started by | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700 |
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Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
"Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <0d4fbbb9-0d4c-42f9-9ed8-d143e23e22d8@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466540 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:48:56 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 15:29:07 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > >> > >> They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > > > Wrong. > > > > I am not going to quibble with a retarded idiot. Stop the BS, you just did some quick research and saw I'm right. > It doesn't matter anyway because these are just terms > or jargon. Sorry, feeb, this "jargon" has specific meaning. > What does matter are the physical concepts > and those are the things of which you know nothing. LOL! You're like a $2 projector ;) > That's the reason for software like Logic or Photoshop. > It allows even total dummies to be productive. Such software is what has people like you confusing gain with volume and the reason is obvious.
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| From | "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <pn4a770o5d@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #466542 |
On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 15:57:55 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > this "jargon" has specific meaning. > Shaddup, you smug asshole s.o.b. It may have specific meaning but you've never stated that meaning because you are technically inept. But your ineptitude goes far deeper because you know shit about the underlying physical principals. What is voltage? Ha, ha, ha, ha! You could never answer. What is a "lumped constant" and why are they necessary in electric circuit description? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Never in a trillion years could you answer that. How are the above two questions related? Ha, ha, ha, ha! Here we go again.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvln18Fs3g5U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466537 |
On 9/9/18 3:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:13:20 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: >> On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: >> >>> >>> Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. >>> >> >> They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > Wrong. > <https://www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/amp-basics-gain-vs-volume> Not hard to find a decent description to explain the difference. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <413c9561-6ae6-4c6c-8e46-0f18af79aa81@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466543 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:00:58 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/9/18 3:29 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:13:20 PM UTC-6, F. Russell wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. > >>> > >> > >> They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > > > Wrong. > > > > <https://www.fender.com/articles/tech-talk/amp-basics-gain-vs-volume> > > Not hard to find a decent description to explain the difference. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> I have known bricks who argue better than you do. Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude is being controlled by Jonas Eklundh. My view is beyond your understanding. Yup. Sadly this is what we have to defeat. Cretins who have no reason for being here other than to flood. By being taught by 'experts' like that you get terms like 'equal rights'. Carried to its (un)reasonable progression, the idea that it's 'unjust' for a traditional male to not wish to screw a gay man is instituted. That is the problem now and newer teachers don't understand why older people are better, people from older generations SHOULD know better than to fall for the New World agenda. Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's behavior is altogether thoroughly false. There can be no question that as soon as any former 'blocked person' does whatever to confuse the feeble namby-pamby's feelings that they will be ignored again. Was that meant to be clever? - My Snoring Solution!! https://youtu.be/D_so1dvjeyI Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fm13fqvautcr.16zk4c9ges6sc$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #466534 |
On 9 Sep 2018 22:12:31 GMT, F. Russell wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> >> Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. >> > > They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > Amplifier gain is the ratio of output to input power (or voltage) > and that is exactly what "volume" specifies. > > In other words, adjusting the "volume" control either > increases or decreases the amplifier gain. > > You can now choke on that tidbit of undeniable, irrefutable > technical truth. You are wrong and Steve is correct. Next you will be explaining how velocity and speed are the same thing. <eyeroll>.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <bba6e804-27ae-463c-89c7-ef9446f42608@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466553 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 4:43:33 PM UTC-7, Lenny Dignman wrote: > On 9 Sep 2018 22:12:31 GMT, F. Russell wrote: > > > On Sun, 09 Sep 2018 14:47:19 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > >> > >> Said the guy who thinks "gain" and "volume" are the same thing. > >> > > > > They are EXACTLY the same thing, idiot. > > > > Amplifier gain is the ratio of output to input power (or voltage) > > and that is exactly what "volume" specifies. > > > > In other words, adjusting the "volume" control either > > increases or decreases the amplifier gain. > > > > You can now choke on that tidbit of undeniable, irrefutable > > technical truth. > > You are wrong and Steve is correct. > Next you will be explaining how velocity and speed are the same thing. > > <eyeroll>. My uptime is almost seventy-five weeks and them the facts, Jack! Already moved on from that. Take it as you want! My stance: Even if you were merely learning how to scam the government, the notion that gaining intelligence as being one of having "naught" to show for it does not fly because you will by definition have the proficiency to show for it and intelligence is beyond Klaus Schadenfreude. Can ASCII characters be concatenated into a string with a logical connection to the "real" world; that is the question posed recently by those astonished at the non-stop flood of gibberish from trolls and basement-dwelling ultra-cranks. - Live on Kickstarter https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4 Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700 |
| Subject | "Gain" is the _ input volume. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.9--6.57pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #466553 |
> > Amplifier gain is the ratio of output to input power (or voltage) > > and that is exactly what "volume" specifies. In today's digital world, "gain" is the _ input volume, which affects the way sound gets (digitally) processed, _ before it's _ output at whatever volume.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. |
| Message-ID | <a34c4852-9663-499b-9ec0-9204a1da00b4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466576 |
On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 6:57:33 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> > > Amplifier gain is the ratio of output to input power (or voltage)
> > > and that is exactly what "volume" specifies.
>
> In today's digital world, "gain" is the _ input volume,
> which affects the way sound gets (digitally) processed,
> _ before it's _ output at whatever volume.
Klaus Schadenfreude:
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I would love to see the group become that! I would love to see
people, for example, pick tasks they do with Desktop Linux which
they believe are handled better than the competition. I have
encouraged that for a long time. But so far few if any such tasks
have been shown.
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Marek Novotny:
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Linux is a Server, A Cloud, A service, A mobile Platform, A
developers dream come true, A super cluster, a Main frame and a
DESKTOP. It's not JUST a desktop. You're a two-bit bullshit coward
who refuses to face what Linux actually is. It's too much for you,
obviously.
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Klaus Schadenfreude (referencing to the above quote):
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But it is not all of those things. Not even close. It is USED by
those things but it is NOT those things.
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Marek Novotny (some time later):
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Android isn't Linux. Android makes "use" of the Linux kernel.
Android is indeed open source, but it is not community driven open
source. Those that know the difference likely won't cry over Android
ditching the Linux kernel and adopting their own kernel. It simply
never mattered for all the reasons I stated above. Now the fact that
I have to articulate this in writing so these clueless tards like
DFS and Klaus Schadenfreude can gain some insights because they LACK their
own insights is what I find troubling. They both have no business
arguing in here. They are simply too stupid to have a conversation
about that which they just don't fundamentally understand in the
first place.
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Notice Marek uses the concepts I taught him (about how Linux is "USED" by the things he listed) then fantasizes about how I did not know the information HE got wrong and I corrected him with (and did so with no name calling or insults).
Steve 'The Moron' Carroll:
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I,I,I,I,I,I,I,I,I and if that wasn't enough, I,I,I,I,I,I.
Talk about a narcissistic fool.
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Klaus Schadenfreude:
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You left out his I, I, I, I. AM. BETTER. THAN. Klaus Schadenfreude AND DFS!
He is clearly feeling very insecure these days.
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Marek Novotny:
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Well, if he wants to play this game with me he'll find pictures of
his wife on imgur with dildos all over her and I can cross post
those too. Keep fucking around Klaus Schadenfreude. I can play this game too.
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--
Top Ten Ways Steve 'The Moron' Carroll Trolls!
http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/BilkHelp.html
Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fviumcFatnaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466356 |
On 9/8/18 2:21 PM, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look >> really good. It's easily noticeable. > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the same" > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > >> >> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care >> warranty. Never. > > I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. > So don't. Not sure why you obsess over them, esp. if you do not like their products. I do no like Nike shoes, nor most types of cereal, nor most fast food,... etc. What do I do? I just do not buy those things... or for their cheaper things rarely do to give them a chance but then do not for a long time. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <e40aab8b-9404-4df1-ac5c-3056629b6af0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466367 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:53:19 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/8/18 2:21 PM, RonB wrote: > > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look > >> really good. It's easily noticeable. > > > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the same" > > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > > >> > >> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care > >> warranty. Never. > > > > I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. > > > So don't. Not sure why you obsess over them, esp. if you do not like > their products. I do no like Nike shoes, nor most types of cereal, nor > most fast food,... etc. What do I do? I just do not buy those things... > or for their cheaper things rarely do to give them a chance but then do > not for a long time. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 One thing that I have never seen spoofed is the Google acct. number so perhaps you can use it as a filtering criteria, too. Here's mine: posting-account=qzPusQoAAADVdKNEKE-jqIVbecHp7oZ7 My gmail posts go back to 2009 (that I've seen, crackhead's forgeries using gmail only go back to 2012). Notice the posting acct. number on this response matches this post from 2009: <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/C9FwjiytRoA/ftc2GG7-37AJ> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJX5+9UAAoJELnOYK54exUCqOMP/AiBMj7DVoep+aTZfsYEwg7h tTwqKInwpmHwUjkZYu2m+kBBuXOZR47OwKWZpUCfnloN4pfL2cgTqmAHeDilVI+L 9sUw15rPd95n/5BDXezZnxzoL6n/8/GzHYmFqUJoKScaOxab4Odf97PDqVfEqiml G86egbR85z7deWiUNcl8Bq1zLtP17eSGy0sUmPMMDrbw/7lbGQ4ayA/ZqjfzXadx qmf3+WYUEvquDgXN4b6x9Ig+EzlIME0Ylp3I6COEFJ69Ozu3ZjwWDp1RWI0Eq4XP vV2I1GFq19AO02hAvJ/qZcWAHgYwhhlFmVWzoqbA1dSnDsCjLr0+xGaAUVcLuwjd qNdLSd1wrunCfUuotc6kUGyvj2Vy3zA5oWmLpHA4utjOrm5RlSyTaJHESOV08CAS X0YO+7LjGBxZ87U//Jfo0vB5u+ij91l7Zdsphf+eSNWvJ+DoUtimlvcP5o4Te1D9 rKNmZ1QUMkl/Kjl9x70Q58XH8etkp9d2NHE1vVth5c9vsfAaNkJVHn7TIC79h4NE Kny8Zp0r+QCsKnqs+NYd9GPyhvGsGmoBzEneAOgs7l509EoCOB3+Lfam3D7OmdvD 97FL/nbKbmDE8n9H8gs1sAua3Yfwz8S7IpHN19GTh9GNCKU8F+orXTSzAPUaKNyp mMihyxG5fd2CFFGEQV8a =sC4v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- One Smart Penny! https://youtu.be/IhOfBmWwCVY Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <f2568a9e-f577-4eae-a6c7-28a027d2ee6a@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #466367 |
On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 2:53:19 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/8/18 2:21 PM, RonB wrote: > > On 2018-09-07, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Whatever they are doing it looks great. I wish Linux could do the same. > >> Take a look in BestBuy next time you are there. The Apple boxen just look > >> really good. It's easily noticeable. > > > > It's not Apple who is "doing it," it's Adobe. And Linux can't "do the same" > > because Adobe Photoshop is proprietary application. > > > >> > >> Bottom line is I would never buy an Apple product without the Apple Care > >> warranty. Never. > > > > I can go one better. I would never buy an Apple product. Never. > > > So don't. Not sure why you obsess over them, esp. if you do not like > their products. I do no like Nike shoes, nor most types of cereal, nor > most fast food,... etc. What do I do? I just do not buy those things... > or for their cheaper things rarely do to give them a chance but then do > not for a long time. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> You likely think KDE handles the desktop well. Nope. Not compared to what I have. Bravo, Takuya Saitoh, you are now living rent-free inside Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude's beady little brain. Lul. Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude and Takuya Saitoh both lie constantly and flagrantly and continue to do so. So no motivation in showing any further respect or restraint. You're like a bullfrog in a library. We all see you hiding there and tell you as much. And you're so dumb you keep rejecting it. Takuya Saitoh just wiped his ass with Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude. Only what Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude wants matters to Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude. There is nothing Takuya Saitoh can do to change that. It's a chance to cause harm and it is what it is. -- Top 15 Ways Klaus 'The Moron' Schadenfreude Trolls! https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0 Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <_QDkD.93718$HK2.43967@fx08.iad> |
| In reply to | #466231 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 17:53:48 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>>a great deal. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>> working, >>>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>>> >>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who >>>>>> spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>> >>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>> >>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>> design. >>>>> >>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. >>>>> What does this pile of crap sell for? >>>> >>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>> >>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >> >> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up >> but like the pig that she is without. >> >> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >> system is. > > Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a > program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a > Windows box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look > better. Never has my productivity increase or my life improved from a better- looking piece of software. A lighter, less intrusive program yes; a heavier, prettier one no. > The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really > good. Ugly fonts discouraged a few idiots from running Linux back in the old days. I'm not sure why improving this was a priority but to say the least, it's not something which increases the utility of an operating system. > With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop > settings and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text > is so small they can barely read it. While I think that a 4k monitor is nice, I don't really see how it has helped anyone to increase their productivity. Unless the monitor is humongous, you're working on images and the pixels are large enough for you to really see what changes you're making, it seems pointless. My wife's laptop has a high-resolution screen of the sort but it's like 13". All it does is make the text look smoother but the real estate is still no more than you would get if you had a 1366x768 screen. Meanwhile, your GPU needs to work extra hard to push all of those extra pixels and battery life suffers. > Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. > And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade > ability. Any computer which makes it impossible to upgrade is little more than a paperweight to me. > That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. > They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how > much all this stuff costs. Knowing how many ethical rules Apple consistently breaks, especially when it comes to slave labour, I'd stay away from them at all costs. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvggi5Fq9frU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466244 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:28:58 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 17:53:48 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is >>>>>>>>a great deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>>> working, >>>>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who >>>>>>> spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>>> design. >>>>>> >>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. >>>>>> What does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>> >>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>> >>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>> >>> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up >>> but like the pig that she is without. >>> >>> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >>> system is. >> >> Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a >> program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a >> Windows box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look >> better. > > Never has my productivity increase or my life improved from a better- > looking piece of software. A lighter, less intrusive program yes; a > heavier, prettier one no. If you were a graphic artist or someone who had to look at the screen for 8-10 hours a day you would notice the difference. >> The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really >> good. > > Ugly fonts discouraged a few idiots from running Linux back in the old > days. I'm not sure why improving this was a priority but to say the > least, it's not something which increases the utility of an operating > system. You are missing the point. See above. A poor display is not only irritating it is actually ergonomically unhealthy as is a poor chair. >> With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop >> settings and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text >> is so small they can barely read it. > > While I think that a 4k monitor is nice, I don't really see how it has > helped anyone to increase their productivity. Unless the monitor is > humongous, you're working on images and the pixels are large enough for > you to really see what changes you're making, it seems pointless. My > wife's laptop has a high-resolution screen of the sort but it's like 13". > All it does is make the text look smoother but the real estate is still > no more than you would get if you had a 1366x768 screen. Meanwhile, your > GPU needs to work extra hard to push all of those extra pixels and > battery life suffers. Why do you keep focusing on productivity? That's like saying comfortable seats in a BMW won't get you from point a to point b any faster. True. But they will certainly improve your experience and comfort while getting from point a to point b. Staring at a poor display is also unhealthy. >> Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. >> And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade >> ability. > > Any computer which makes it impossible to upgrade is little more than a > paperweight to me. Me too. It's unnecessary. >> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. >> They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how >> much all this stuff costs. > > Knowing how many ethical rules Apple consistently breaks, especially when > it comes to slave labour, I'd stay away from them at all costs. They all do it. That Asus motherboard you have was probably manufactured in the same Foxxconn factory that the Apple board was made in. That doesn't make it right, but just saying.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <OHQkD.4916$6y.1151@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #466249 |
On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 19:39:45 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 23:28:58 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 17:53:48 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 20:40:34 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>>>>>that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>>>>>upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design >>>>>>>>>is a great deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing >>>>>>>> a class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model >>>>>>>> of Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from >>>>>>>> working, >>>>>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and >>>>>>>> a bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the >>>>>>>> replacement you get has the same design problem! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who >>>>>>>> spend thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>>>>>interested in supporting... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple >>>>>>>> again gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro >>>>>>>> Thunderbolt-only. *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit >>>>>>>> design. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. >>>>>>> What does this pile of crap sell for? >>>>>> >>>>>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >>>>> >>>>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>>>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >>>> >>>> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up >>>> but like the pig that she is without. >>>> >>>> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >>>> system is. >>> >>> Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a >>> program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a >>> Windows box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look >>> better. >> >> Never has my productivity increase or my life improved from a better- >> looking piece of software. A lighter, less intrusive program yes; a >> heavier, prettier one no. > > If you were a graphic artist or someone who had to look at the screen > for 8-10 hours a day you would notice the difference. In other words, ONE segment of the computer-using population _MIGHT_ notice the difference. >>> The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. >> >> Ugly fonts discouraged a few idiots from running Linux back in the old >> days. I'm not sure why improving this was a priority but to say the >> least, it's not something which increases the utility of an operating >> system. > > > You are missing the point. > See above. > A poor display is not only irritating it is actually ergonomically > unhealthy as is a poor chair. In reality, there is no such thing as a healthy display. All of them emit radiation and all of them cause eventual damage to our vision. A higher resolution does not change that. >>> With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings >>> and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so >>> small they can barely read it. >> >> While I think that a 4k monitor is nice, I don't really see how it has >> helped anyone to increase their productivity. Unless the monitor is >> humongous, you're working on images and the pixels are large enough for >> you to really see what changes you're making, it seems pointless. My >> wife's laptop has a high-resolution screen of the sort but it's like >> 13". >> All it does is make the text look smoother but the real estate is still >> no more than you would get if you had a 1366x768 screen. Meanwhile, >> your GPU needs to work extra hard to push all of those extra pixels and >> battery life suffers. > > Why do you keep focusing on productivity? > That's like saying comfortable seats in a BMW won't get you from point a > to point b any faster. > True. > But they will certainly improve your experience and comfort while > getting from point a to point b. > > Staring at a poor display is also unhealthy. _Any_ display is unhealthy. I focus on productivity though because the resident Apple troll will focus on that as well. It's also what Apple focuses on when pushing these technologies. In reality, the companies and the marketers know very well how useless a 4k or even 8k display is. It's prettier, but it's truly pointless considering it adds no real benefit to the user other than being pretty. >>> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is >>> excellent. They really do take care of their customers. They should >>> considering how much all this stuff costs. >> >> Knowing how many ethical rules Apple consistently breaks, especially >> when it comes to slave labour, I'd stay away from them at all costs. > > They all do it. > That Asus motherboard you have was probably manufactured in the same > Foxxconn factory that the Apple board was made in. > That doesn't make it right, but just saying. The way that I see it, computing should be ethical across the board. Thje software should be open, the hardware should have been built by people who were properly compensated and once it is obsolete, whatever parts can be reused to build new machinery should be. As it is, Apple is making a mockery of the computing world by offering closed software, slave-built hardware and charging a fortune for it. Anyone who buys their junk is a moron (see Snit) who is enabling more unethical behaviour. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvic9lF7afvU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466269 |
On 9/8/18 7:06 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: ... >>> Never has my productivity increase or my life improved from a better- >>> looking piece of software. A lighter, less intrusive program yes; a >>> heavier, prettier one no. >> >> If you were a graphic artist or someone who had to look at the screen >> for 8-10 hours a day you would notice the difference. > > In other words, ONE segment of the computer-using population _MIGHT_ > notice the difference. One segment... those who look at their screens and do not have significant vision impairments. That "segment" is quite large! >>>> The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. >>> >>> Ugly fonts discouraged a few idiots from running Linux back in the old >>> days. I'm not sure why improving this was a priority but to say the >>> least, it's not something which increases the utility of an operating >>> system. >> >> >> You are missing the point. >> See above. >> A poor display is not only irritating it is actually ergonomically >> unhealthy as is a poor chair. > > In reality, there is no such thing as a healthy display. All of them emit > radiation and all of them cause eventual damage to our vision. A higher > resolution does not change that. What damage do they cause to vision? Can you show support for this? >>>> With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings >>>> and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so >>>> small they can barely read it. >>> >>> While I think that a 4k monitor is nice, I don't really see how it has >>> helped anyone to increase their productivity. Unless the monitor is >>> humongous, you're working on images and the pixels are large enough for >>> you to really see what changes you're making, it seems pointless. My >>> wife's laptop has a high-resolution screen of the sort but it's like >>> 13". >>> All it does is make the text look smoother but the real estate is still >>> no more than you would get if you had a 1366x768 screen. Meanwhile, >>> your GPU needs to work extra hard to push all of those extra pixels and >>> battery life suffers. >> >> Why do you keep focusing on productivity? >> That's like saying comfortable seats in a BMW won't get you from point a >> to point b any faster. >> True. >> But they will certainly improve your experience and comfort while >> getting from point a to point b. >> >> Staring at a poor display is also unhealthy. > > _Any_ display is unhealthy. I focus on productivity though because the > resident Apple troll will focus on that as well. It's also what Apple > focuses on when pushing these technologies. In reality, the companies and > the marketers know very well how useless a 4k or even 8k display is. It's > prettier, but it's truly pointless considering it adds no real benefit to > the user other than being pretty. By all means use a 72 dpi screen if you like. But as far as a focus on tasks and productivity, that is what ANY tool is for. Why get a tool that does not allow you to get the tasks done you got the tool for? This applies to table saws, computers, TVs, cars... anything. >>>> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is >>>> excellent. They really do take care of their customers. They should >>>> considering how much all this stuff costs. >>> >>> Knowing how many ethical rules Apple consistently breaks, especially >>> when it comes to slave labour, I'd stay away from them at all costs. >> >> They all do it. >> That Asus motherboard you have was probably manufactured in the same >> Foxxconn factory that the Apple board was made in. >> That doesn't make it right, but just saying. > > The way that I see it, computing should be ethical across the board. Thje > software should be open, the hardware should have been built by people > who were properly compensated and once it is obsolete, whatever parts can > be reused to build new machinery should be. As it is, Apple is making a > mockery of the computing world by offering closed software, slave-built > hardware and charging a fortune for it. Anyone who buys their junk is a > moron (see Snit) who is enabling more unethical behaviour. Keep in mind when you saw how well some common tasks were done on the macOS environment you considered buying a Mac. But use what you like. I will certainly not put you down for your choices in tools. You feel the need to put others down... you are anti-choice where I am pro-choice. Fair enough. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvibndF7718U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466244 |
On 9/7/18 4:28 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: ... >>> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up >>> but like the pig that she is without. >>> >>> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >>> system is. >> >> Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a >> program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a >> Windows box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look >> better. > > Never has my productivity increase or my life improved from a better- > looking piece of software. A lighter, less intrusive program yes; a > heavier, prettier one no. Remember how when you first saw Pages doing some rather mundane things, but doing them well, you were so impressed you talked of buying a Mac. I am not saying you should, not putting you down for changing your mind (I even showed you how much the same could be accomplished on Windows), but that ease of use and the like makes for a very nice experience. It also comes with a price -- in dollars to buy the machine and in a lack of hardware upgradability, etc. >> The scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really >> good. > > Ugly fonts discouraged a few idiots from running Linux back in the old > days. I'm not sure why improving this was a priority but to say the > least, it's not something which increases the utility of an operating > system. Working with the modern monitors they have next to old ones highlights how much work Apple has put into this. Their screens and what they do with them are quite impressive. >> With Windows the user has to play around with dpi, desktop >> settings and so forth and people with 4k monitors quickly realize text >> is so small they can barely read it. > > While I think that a 4k monitor is nice, I don't really see how it has > helped anyone to increase their productivity. It is sorta like going from VCR to DVD... the VCR was fine when you used it, but when you get used to DVD, or better, and then you go back to VCR you wonder how you put up with it at the time. > Unless the monitor is > humongous, you're working on images and the pixels are large enough for > you to really see what changes you're making, it seems pointless. My > wife's laptop has a high-resolution screen of the sort but it's like 13". > All it does is make the text look smoother but the real estate is still > no more than you would get if you had a 1366x768 screen. You can adjust this and make things smaller if you like. You cannot make the screen bigger. :) > Meanwhile, your > GPU needs to work extra hard to push all of those extra pixels and > battery life suffers. > >> Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. >> And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade >> ability. > > Any computer which makes it impossible to upgrade is little more than a > paperweight to me. Then Macs would be a poor choice for you. Sure. >> That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. >> They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how >> much all this stuff costs. > > Knowing how many ethical rules Apple consistently breaks, especially when > it comes to slave labour, I'd stay away from them at all costs. The current CEO cares a LOT more about such things than did Jobs and works to minimize them, but they are in a capitalist system which is all about selling human rights and the environment to the lowest bidder. To compete in such a system they cannot really do much more. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fviajmF6v8nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466231 |
On 9/7/18 2:53 PM, William Barnes wrote: ... >>> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >>> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ >> >> MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but >> like the pig that she is without. >> >> That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating >> system is. > > Apple does one thing very good and that is graphics. If you look at a > program like Adobe on a Mac and then look at the same program on a Windows > box with a similar monitor, the Mac will almost always look better. The > scaling, dpi and fonts just look really, really, really good. With Windows > the user has to play around with dpi, desktop settings and so forth and > people with 4k monitors quickly realize text is so small they can barely > read it. They also really get the idea of using a computer to work with multiple programs in a workflow. This is why they have Automator and AppleScript, and why they have a clipboard that remains even when you quit a program (not a given on Linux, though you can get it), and the same hot keys for copy and paste in pretty much all programs -- including the terminal, and shared color palettes and swatches, and shared font collections, and ways to get to your different categories of images and videos and music from pretty much any program, etc. If you look at Owl's solutions you will see where Linux shines... the command line. If you look at my solutions you will see where macOS shines, the GUI. Does not mean each does not have a capable "other" interface, they do, but macOS is pretty much the gold standard for GUIs (which does not mean flawless), and Linux is the gold standard for CLIs. > Other than that, Apple is a huge waste of money in my opinion. > And reliability and serviceability sucks big time. So does upgrade ability. The have a very good reliability rating (though I think it has slipped some on phones, from what I recall it is still very good on the desktop). For those who want internal upgrades they are, of course, horrid. Heck, even adding RAM is not a given... which is a bit absurd on a desktop (that is one area people tend change, at least more than others). That and adding new hard drives. I do not get why Apple focuses on how thin a DESKTOP machine is. > That's why most people get Apple Care, which I will admit is excellent. > They really do take care of their customers. They should considering how > much all this stuff costs. > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fvgno9FrimrU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466221 |
On 9/7/18 1:40 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 21:25:14 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> On Fri, 07 Sep 2018 00:17:07 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad >>>>>> that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to >>>>>> upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a >>>>>> great deal. >>>>> >>>>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>>>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>>>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>>>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>>>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>>>> >>>>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement >>>>> you get has the same design problem! >>>>> >>>>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>>>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>>>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>>>> >>>>>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>>>> interested in supporting... >>>>> >>>>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>>>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>>>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >>>> >>>> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >>>> does this pile of crap sell for? >>> >>> A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. >> >> Run a Hackintosh if you lust after a Mac desktop. >> https://www.tonymacx86.com/ > > MacOS, to me, is like a Mexican woman who looks alright with make-up but > like the pig that she is without. > > That's all the "improved productivity and error-reduction" operating > system is. > Mexican? What the hell does that have to do with ANYTHING? And if you do not like macOS, do not use it. Whatever. But why not talk about tech... talk about tasks. Remember, when I first showed you how easy some common tasks were on macOS you said you might buy a Mac. I did show you how similar things can be done on Windows... and often with more options, but the macOS environment made it easier and smoother. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: crApple products |
| Message-ID | <fveeh2Fd20iU7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #466151 |
On 9/6/18 5:17 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 06 Sep 2018 23:57:48 +0000, RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-09-05, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that >>>> the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or >>>> remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. >>> >>> It's classic Apple "form over function" design. They are facing a >>> class-action lawsuit over the keyboards on the 2016-now model of >>> Macbook Pro. They slightest bit of dust can stop a key from working, >>> and they are completely unserviceable - the entire keyboard, and a >>> bunch of stuff attached to the bottom of it, must be replaced. >>> >>> A $700 repair, because of Apple's poor design, and the replacement you >>> get has the same design problem! >>> >>> Well, they saved a half a millimeter, over a more-robust keyboard >>> design, so it's all "worth it". That's what professionals who spend >>> thousands of dollars on a laptop "want", apparently. >>> >>>> Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is >>>> interested in supporting... >>> >>> No, it's a nice feature on a high-end laptop. Of course, Apple again >>> gets it wrong, by making their latest Macbook Pro Thunderbolt-only. >>> *No* USB ports! Now, that is just horseshit design. >> >> I had no idea how pathetically designed these MacBook Pros were. What >> does this pile of crap sell for? > > A minimum of twice the price of a similarly-specced PC. > > > And yet in almost any price comparison Macs compare well to the other big OEMs. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <042b022c-e3c9-42ae-bf2b-2c761671c07c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465956 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 9:47:36 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:26:36 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > >> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: > >>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. > >>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because > >>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any > >>>>>>>>>>>> language can be misused. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. > >>>>>>>>>>> Heck, M$ > >>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it > >>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at > >>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* > >>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve > >>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but > >>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been > >>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show > >>>>> itself well. In others, not so much. > >>>>> > >>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online > >>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I > >>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just > >>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how > >>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: > >>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area > >>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: > >>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked > >>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before > >>>>> coming up with the task. > >>>>> > >>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing > >>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do > >>>>> here: <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the > >>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to > >>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact > >>>>> same, of course): > >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, > >>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color change > >>>>> with the bar. More details here: > >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> > >>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a > >>>>> competing system. And still failed. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video > >>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion > >>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. > >>>>> My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > >>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. > >>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and > >>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few > >>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN > >>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up > >>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty > >>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much > >>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter > >>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My > >>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented > >>>>> a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann > >>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and > >>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could > >>>>> not find a good method). > >>>>> > >>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of > >>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of > >>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not > >>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do > >>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was > >>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter Köhlmann > >>>>> insisted it must have been faked. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation > >>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. > >>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl > >>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a > >>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually > >>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my > >>>>> solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more > >>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully > >>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: > >>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >>>>> > >>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >>>>> > >>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > >>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can > >>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the > >>>>> same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was > >>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had > >>>>> been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not > >>>>> being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap > >>>>> in their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). > >>>> > >>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > >>>> crafted your tests to show that. > >>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > >>>> months but not so great during the summer months. > >>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a > >>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > >>>> Ever. > >>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of > >>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. > >>> > >>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you > >>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > >>> > >>> > >> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS > >> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > > > > That's not what Ronb is saying. > > He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is > > a bug. > > You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you > > ignore the things other OS do well that the Mac can't. > > Example, upgrades and newer hardware. > > Soldered in memory and so forth. > > Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that > the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or > remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > > > Macs are tied to Thunderbolt. > > Good luck. > > > > Nice attempt at spin though. > > Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is > interested in supporting... > > > > -- > SilverSlimer > FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate > Absolute centrist, proud Catholic One guy reported him years ago. As expected, it did squat to derail the clod. Being an open format as it is, usenet will never go away but it'll never be popular. A sucking vacuum of ideas, magnified by the reciprocal of the endless vastness of space, demonstrating the vast nothingness of The Script Troller's so-called thought process. -- Curious how these posts are made? www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c
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