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| First post | 2016-02-15 01:17 +0000 |
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Linux Advocates At Work Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-02-15 01:17 +0000
Re: Linux Advocates At Work Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-14 20:54 -0500
Re: Linux Advocates At Work Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-02-15 11:14 +0000
Re: Linux Advocates At Work Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-15 09:05 -0500
Re: Linux Advocates At Work "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-15 10:11 -0500
Re: Linux Advocates At Work Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-15 10:42 -0500
Re: Linux Advocates At Work tinus61 <tinus61@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-15 11:15 +0100
"Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-15 08:58 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-15 16:04 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-15 10:15 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-15 16:25 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-15 10:32 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-15 17:08 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-15 16:00 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-15 22:19 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-15 16:32 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-16 00:22 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-16 01:41 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:00 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-16 11:18 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 12:25 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Lester Thorpe <lt@zen.info> - 2016-02-15 23:57 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-16 01:02 +0100
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:07 -0500
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 11:45 -0500
There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-02-16 11:24 -0800
Re: There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 15:26 -0500
The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-02-16 13:00 -0800
Re: The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 16:52 -0500
Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-02-16 16:50 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-16 17:29 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-17 06:44 -0600
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-19 16:50 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-19 20:58 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-20 05:59 +0000
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-19 23:00 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-19 23:23 -0800
Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> - 2016-02-20 08:23 -0800
Re: The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> - 2016-02-17 15:34 -0500
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-16 21:21 +0000
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 21:13 -0500
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-02-17 02:28 +0000
Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 22:33 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-16 12:38 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-16 18:51 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-16 14:35 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-02-17 01:36 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" flatfish+++ <flatfish@myself.com> - 2016-02-17 01:49 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-17 10:02 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-02-17 06:11 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 00:40 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-02-16 07:21 -0800
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 07:44 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 12:32 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-16 18:52 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 13:42 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-16 22:14 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:42 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-15 16:30 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid> - 2016-02-16 00:23 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-16 01:40 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:08 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-02-16 16:18 +0100
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 10:29 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 09:33 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-16 11:22 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-15 15:55 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-02-15 23:07 +0000
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" Slimer <a.m@unseen.is.invalid> - 2016-02-16 12:36 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-02-16 13:43 -0500
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-02-16 08:43 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-02-16 11:26 -0600
Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-02-16 19:39 +0000
Re: Linux Advocates At Work Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-02-15 06:27 -0500
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 12:25 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" |
| Message-ID | <qtp6cb5cc4ss04e3ftbrfpq40ug1t0ku2c@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #343661 |
JEDIDIAH wrote: > Dr. John Grubor wrote: >> >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> >>> Why are people trying to spin businesses paying for people to develop >>> Free Software as a bad thing? >> >> I do not personally believe it is a bad thing, but I think some Linux users >> aren't too happy about it. Many of them are virulently anti-big business. >> They want to cling to the illusion of Linux still being the OS of basement- >> dwelling geeks when it has evolved far beyond that. Excepting the first sentence, that entire paragraph is nothing but made-up bullshit. > It was never like that ever. > > Again, your trolling fails due to the attempt to push a bogus narrative. Well, I'm sure we must be "hypocrites" because we are "suddenly OK" with businesses being the primary contributors to the Linux kernel. All based upon troll *lies* that we are "anti business" or "anti success". -- 'It's amazing how in the freetards mind they actually believe that people or companies that are successful must somehow either be "lucky" or they "cheated."' - trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", lying shamelessly
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| From | Lester Thorpe <lt@zen.info> |
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| Date | 2016-02-15 23:57 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" |
| Message-ID | <n9toke0236t@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #343651 |
On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:00:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > > The important difference is this [snip] > No. The important difference in the case of Linux is that even though there may be a great proportion of developers on some corporate payroll the final arbiter for Linux decisions is Linus Torvalds and only Torvalds. If some large cohort of corporate lackeys says that things should be done a certain way, Torvalds can, and many times has, tell them all to kiss off. As long as Torvalds remains "untouchable" Linux will remain a great OS. That's the essential difference.
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 01:02 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: "Who actually develops Linux? The answer might surprise you" |
| Message-ID | <n9toos$79u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343666 |
Lester Thorpe wrote: > On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:00:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> >> The important difference is this [snip] >> > > No. The important difference in the case of Linux is that even though > there may be a great proportion of developers on some corporate payroll > the final arbiter for Linux decisions is Linus Torvalds and only Torvalds. > > If some large cohort of corporate lackeys says that things should be done > a certain way, Torvalds can, and many times has, tell them all to kiss > off. Idiot. Torvalds has control (to a certain extent) about the kernel, and the kernel alone. He does not have *any* say at all about all the other stuff linux distros are made of > As long as Torvalds remains "untouchable" Linux will remain a great OS. > > That's the essential difference. You don't have the foggiest of knowledge about linux. And it shows
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| From | benj <none@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 11:07 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. |
| Message-ID | <0PHwy.64031$J36.25043@fx09.iad> |
| In reply to | #343666 |
On 02/16/2016 01:41 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
>
>
> Qutoing (Feb 12, 2014):
> https://www.google.com/search?q=Linus+Torvalds+income
> ＜＜
> Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year.
> Total Worth: $150 Million.
>
> Creator of Revision Control System and Git besides Kernel.
> Torvalds first priority is FOSS, but he never minds using
> Proprietary software to get best result. ＞＞
>
>
Hey Rolf, just look at yourself sitting in in the dark mom's basement
and COMPARE!
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 11:45 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. |
| Message-ID | <n9vjhc$prl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343701 |
"benj" <none@gmail.com> wrote in message news:0PHwy.64031$J36.25043@fx09.iad... > On 02/16/2016 01:41 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >> >> >> Qutoing (Feb 12, 2014): >> https://www.google.com/search?q=Linus+Torvalds+income >> <<<< >> Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. >> Total Worth: $150 Million. >> <<<< >> Creator of Revision Control System and Git besides Kernel. >> Torvalds first priority is FOSS, but he never minds using >> Proprietary software to get best result. >> >> Jeff - if you posted this to COLA then it's not showing up on my end. Still using your custom HTML client?? $10-million/year - didn't look it up but when you usually see a number like that it's not "salary." It's salary and stuff like stock-options, bonus and other "incentives." Either way, good for Linus. It's what a similar positions pay at other companies and he's earned the $$$. > Hey Rolf, just look at yourself sitting in in the dark mom's basement and > COMPARE! Linus is beyond the top 0.1% income level.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 11:24 -0800 |
| Subject | There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{11.24A.Seattle.2016}> |
| In reply to | #343702 |
MrEzekiel wrote: > Linus is beyond the top 0.1% income level. There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here, and not enough Linuses. Ben Jacoby wrote: > > Hey Rolf, just look at yourself sitting in mom's basement and COMPARE! Ben Jacoby intentionally avoids facts and logic. In his little dream world, I'm not the manager of a 32 unit apartment building (nor a C++ programmer). Yesterday, I strung a 75 foot ethernet cable for one of my tenants. It costs $10: http://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Cable-CAT5e-75-White/dp/B00161MNZW Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly, even when 15 feet from the WiFi source. Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best. Many of my ( young, Univ. of Wash. ) tenants don't have desktops; but they've got gaming consoles. MrEzekiel wrote: > Jeff - if you posted this to COLA then it's not showing up on my end. > Still using your custom HTML client?? CraigsList allows a limited set of HTML tags, as do many other forums; HTML is not a crime. My posts begin: <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'> I drop posts from the following servers: Eternal-September Motzarella Aioe Dizum Albasani If you want me to see your posts, don't use these servers. [ I see _all_ replies to me, no matter who/where from ] My servers are the best: http://usenet.blueworldhosting.com http://glorb.com/usenet.php
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 15:26 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here. |
| Message-ID | <na00et$h0b$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343732 |
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{11.24A.Seattle.2016}...
> MrEzekiel wrote:
>> Linus is beyond the top 0.1% income level.
>
> There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here,
> and not enough Linuses.
In the entire world there are many more Richard Stallmans than people like
Linus making $10M a year.
> Ben Jacoby wrote:
>> > Hey Rolf, just look at yourself sitting in mom's basement and COMPARE!
>
> Ben Jacoby intentionally avoids facts and logic.
> In his little dream world, I'm not the manager
> of a 32 unit apartment building (nor a C++ programmer).
32 units is a lot. Do you get a lot of people complaining about stuff?
> Yesterday, I strung a 75 foot ethernet cable
> for one of my tenants. It costs $10:
> http://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Cable-CAT5e-75-White/dp/B00161MNZW
Running internet cable can be really easy or real hard. It's a matter of
finding a good way to run it from end to end. Unfinished basements and
attics are easier than ceilings and walls.
> Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly,
> even when 15 feet from the WiFi source.
> Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best.
Never had a problem with the phone Wifi. My desktop has a wired connection.
> Many of my ( young, Univ. of Wash. ) tenants don't have desktops;
> but they've got gaming consoles.
>
> MrEzekiel wrote:
>> Jeff - if you posted this to COLA then it's not showing up on my end.
>> Still using your custom HTML client??
>
> CraigsList allows a limited set of HTML tags,
> as do many other forums; HTML is not a crime.
> My posts begin:
>
> <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
I''ve listed stuff on CL before. You just type or copy-paste the tags into
the edit box. You don't use your newsreader for that do you?
HTML is not a crime. Web sites with excessive javascript should be.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 13:00 -0800 |
| Subject | The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{1.00P.Seattle.2016}> |
| In reply to | #343746 |
You (MrEzekiel) replied (to me): > > Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly, > > even when 15 feet from the WiFi source. > > Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best. > > Never had a problem with the phone Wifi. > My desktop has a wired connection. The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK, but others don't; even so, it's not great -- I wouldn't use it. A desktop with a decent WiFi adaptor works well. > > Ben Jacoby intentionally avoids facts and logic. > > In his little dream world, I'm not the manager > > of a 32 unit apartment building (nor a C++ programmer). > > 32 units is a lot. > Do you get a lot of people complaining about stuff? All day, every day. I move people into/out_of units; lots of turnover. I do most of the work myself, without help. Minimum wage, here in Seattle, is #13/hour this year, $15/hour next year. Parking is $120/month. Gas is $2.50/callon, I think (I don't drive). > > There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here, > > and not enough Linuses. > > In the entire world there are many more Richard Stallmans > than people like Linus making $10M a year. I don't expect everyone here to be rich; but, also, I don't expect them to think like Richard Stallman. > > CraigsList allows a limited set of HTML tags, > > as do many other forums; HTML is not a crime. > > My posts begin: > > > > <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'> > > I've listed stuff on CL before. You just type or copy-paste the tags into > the edit box. You don't use your newsreader for that do you? My CraigsList posts begin: <h2><pre> That's it, nothing more (HTML-wise). I just type it in. My current ad: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/roo/5414506921.html > HTML is not a crime. > Web sites with excessive javascript should be. If I like a site, I whitelist some of its JavaScript servers, and I write CSS rules for it; to wit: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
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| From | "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 16:52 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. |
| Message-ID | <na05go$56v$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343748 |
"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{1.00P.Seattle.2016}...
> You (MrEzekiel) replied (to me):
>> > Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly,
>> > even when 15 feet from the WiFi source.
>> > Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best.
>>
>> Never had a problem with the phone Wifi.
>> My desktop has a wired connection.
>
> The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK, but others don't;
> even so, it's not great -- I wouldn't use it.
> A desktop with a decent WiFi adaptor works well.
What's not working? I can tether my laptop through my phone to do SSH port
forwarding. If this works then I'd expect just about everything else to work
with phone wifi.
>> > Ben Jacoby intentionally avoids facts and logic.
>> > In his little dream world, I'm not the manager
>> > of a 32 unit apartment building (nor a C++ programmer).
>>
>> 32 units is a lot.
>> Do you get a lot of people complaining about stuff?
>
> All day, every day.
> I move people into/out_of units; lots of turnover.
> I do most of the work myself, without help.
I owned more than one house in the past and did 95% of the work myself.
There's always plenty of work to do. You have 32 units and at least that
many tenants. I only had a wife and 4 kids and that was plenty to keep me
busy.
> Minimum wage, here in Seattle, is #13/hour this year,
> $15/hour next year. Parking is $120/month.
> Gas is $2.50/callon, I think (I don't drive).
I don't drive nearly as much as I used to so my gas bill is practically
nothing. The monthly train pass is $75 but the company pays for it. I paid
for the gas myself.
>> > There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here,
>> > and not enough Linuses.
>>
>> In the entire world there are many more Richard Stallmans
>> than people like Linus making $10M a year.
>
> I don't expect everyone here to be rich;
> but, also, I don't expect them to think like Richard Stallman.
>
>> > CraigsList allows a limited set of HTML tags,
>> > as do many other forums; HTML is not a crime.
>> > My posts begin:
>> >
>> > <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'>
>>
>> I've listed stuff on CL before. You just type or copy-paste the tags into
>> the edit box. You don't use your newsreader for that do you?
>
> My CraigsList posts begin:
>
> <h2><pre>
>
> That's it, nothing more (HTML-wise).
> I just type it in. My current ad:
>
> http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/roo/5414506921.html
>
>> HTML is not a crime.
>> Web sites with excessive javascript should be.
>
> If I like a site, I whitelist some of its JavaScript servers,
> and I write CSS rules for it; to wit:
>
> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 16:50 -0800 |
| Subject | Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{4.50P.Seattle.2016}> |
| In reply to | #343755 |
You (MrEzekiel) replied (to me): > > > > Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly, > > > > even when 15 feet from the WiFi source. > > > > Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best. > > > > > > Never had a problem with the phone Wifi. > > > My desktop has a wired connection. > > > > The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK, but others don't; > > even so, it's not great -- I wouldn't use it. > > A desktop with a decent WiFi adaptor works well. > > What's not working? I can tether my laptop through my phone > to do SSH port forwarding. If this works then I'd expect > just about everything else to work with phone wifi. Why "through [your] phone" ? Why not connect your laptop to the same WiFi source that your phone is using ? Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. I should find a scientific study on this, but I don't feel like it, not right now. P.S. Gas is $2.50/gallon here, I checked. Outside of Seattle, it's $1.60/gallon. Everything is cheaper outside of Seattle, more so than usual, so I'm having trouble finding renters.
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 17:29 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <na0i9j$glc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343771 |
Copro-Rectal Sucker Addict "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> ::JR:: wrote:
"I'm having trouble finding renters", since....
>
::JR:: I no longer want sex anymore. I masturbate. I've found that
::JR:: all these erections & masturbations can irratate my prostate.
::JR:: My problem mostly happens a few hours before I want to
::JR:: wake up, so I can't take Sudafed.
::JR:: Ejaculation is a mind-altering drug, no better than heroin
::JR:: or meth. So I've recently vowed to not masturbate...
::JR:: I use my left hand to smoke, masturbate and to type ...
::JR:: Does that make me smart ? -- I'd rather masturbate.
::JR:: She likes to squirt meth up her rear ( it makes her cum).
::JR:: but pussy is the last thing I want.
(cuz Relf is apparently interested now in Swine Glazier's antics)
::JR:: My dreams, however, have been semi-erotic as of late..."
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 06:44 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <2qq8cb1tc7n4u2uqa4udo46ar4cgn2euk5@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #343778 |
hanson wrote: >Copro-Rectal Sucker Addict "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> ::JR:: wrote: *plonk*
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 16:50 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <na8d3a$fsd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343805 |
"chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> is a renter applicant for a room in the apartment complex for the indigent, druggies and pervs, which is managed by masturbator & Copro-Rectal Meht Sucker Addict "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.>, to whom chrisv submitted his *plonk*-CV, and his MO that says: > Re: Alison cries out for her waif // Group: 24hoursupport.helpdesk Privacy and discretion assured. My sphere of interest: Adult swim, aqua teen, bondage, dead can ... 3/3/13 by chrisv, email me at mail to: chrisv@nospam.invalid. > hanson (at sci.physics) wrote: .... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA.. You guys are even more extreme pervs then is cretin Full-Swine Glazier who advertises hims in s.p as being a Face-Shitter & Graveyard Vandal .... So, carry on and enjoy... ahahahahAHAHAHA... > Now then, when you guys do manage to get a moment of sobriety and lucidity make yourself useful by correcting, or having the coders at "Office Libre's Calc" fix a long present glitch therein. It apears in the Linux & the Windows versions: > Type the following sequence into the spreadsheet: (letter/s) a, enter, b, enter, c, enter, .... z, enter. You will notice that the entire alphabet returns correctly EXCEPT for [ i ] (CHR$ 105) which appears as [ l ] (CHR$ 108) > correcting that should a cinch for brainiacs like you, n'est pas.
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 20:58 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <na8rll$6ra$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343951 |
kensidiotic "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> wrote: > Possible ko0kery specimen for your perusal. Opinions? Is this "hanson" guy > a lOon? Gives more than just a whiff of wackiness to my experienced and > well-honed nose at least... > hanson wrote: Kensishit, you sordid, despicable pig, your zonker is full of well-honed Dingleberries from you sucking up to the Sphincters of Relf and Chrisv. > Now listen up, and when you have cleaned your nose and do manage to get a moment of sobriety and lucidity make yourself useful by correcting, or having the coders at "Office Libre's Calc" fix a long present glitch therein. It appears in the Linux & the Windows versions: > Type the following sequence into the spreadsheet: (letter/s) a, enter, b, enter, c, enter, .... z, enter. You will notice that the entire alphabet returns correctly EXCEPT for [ i ] (CHR$ 105) which appears as [ l ] (CHR$ 108) > Correcting that should a cinch for a brainiac like you, kensi, ... or are you just a loud-mouthing kensishit? --- So, fix it, and brag, or get the fuck away from me you perverted turd. > > > > .> On 19/02/2016 7:50 PM, hanson wrote: > x> "chrisv" <chrisv@nospam.invalid> is a renter applicant for a room in > the > x> apartment complex for the indigent, druggies and pervs, > x> which is managed by masturbator & Copro-Rectal Meht Sucker > x> Addict "Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.>, to whom chrisv submitted his *plonk*-CV, > and > x> his MO that says: > x>> > x> Re: Alison cries out for her waif // Group: 24hoursupport.helpdesk > x> Privacy and discretion assured. My sphere of interest: Adult swim, aqua > x> teen, bondage, dead can ... 3/3/13 by chrisv, email me at mail to: > x> chrisv@nospam.invalid. > x>> > x> hanson (at sci.physics) wrote: > x> .... ahahahahaha... AHAHAHAHAHA.. You guys are even > x> more extreme pervs then is cretin Full-Swine Glazier who > x> advertises hims in s.p as being a Face-Shitter & Graveyard > x> Vandal .... So, carry on and enjoy... ahahahahAHAHAHA... > x>> > x> Now then, when you guys do manage to get a moment of > x> sobriety and lucidity make yourself useful by correcting, or having the > x> coders at "Office Libre's Calc" fix a long present > x> glitch therein. It apears in the Linux & the Windows versions: > x>> > x> Type the following sequence into the spreadsheet: > x> (letter/s) a, enter, b, enter, c, enter, .... z, enter. > x> You will notice that the entire alphabet returns correctly > x> EXCEPT for [ i ] (CHR$ 105) which appears as [ l ] (CHR$ 108) > x>> > x> correcting that should a cinch for brainiacs like you, n'est pas. >
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-20 05:59 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <fd04afe.jfak@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #343956 |
In comp.os.linux.advocacy hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
> kensidiotic "kensi" <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> Possible ko0kery specimen for your perusal. Opinions? Is this "hanson" guy
>> a lOon? Gives more than just a whiff of wackiness to my experienced and
>> well-honed nose at least...
>>
> hanson wrote:
> Kensishit, you sordid, despicable pig, your zonker is full of
> well-honed Dingleberries from you sucking up to the Sphincters
> of Relf and Chrisv.
>>
> Now listen up, and when you have cleaned your nose
> and do manage to get a moment of sobriety and lucidity
> make yourself useful by correcting, or having the coders
> at "Office Libre's Calc" fix a long present glitch therein.
> It appears in the Linux & the Windows versions:
>>
> Type the following sequence into the spreadsheet:
> (letter/s) a, enter, b, enter, c, enter, .... z, enter.
> You will notice that the entire alphabet returns correctly
> EXCEPT for [ i ] (CHR$ 105) which appears as [ l ] (CHR$ 108)
>>
> Correcting that should a cinch for a brainiac like you, kensi,
> ... or are you just a loud-mouthing kensishit? --- So, fix it,
> and brag, or get the fuck away from me you perverted turd.
It's not 108. It's 73 ('I').
Autocorrect is changing it. Delete the autocorrect entry for "i".
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 23:00 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <na92pd$o93$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343958 |
"owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>
In comp.os.linux.advocacy
hanson <hanson@quick.net> wrote:
... correct, or having the coders at "Office Libre's Calc"
fix a long present glitch therein.
It appears in the Linux & the Windows versions:
>>>
Type the following sequence into the spreadsheet:
(letter/s) a, enter, b, enter, c, enter, .... z, enter.
You will notice that the entire alphabet returns correctly
EXCEPT for [ i ] (CHR$ 105) which appears as [ l ] (CHR$ 108)
>>>
"owl" wrote:
It's not 108. It's 73 ('I').
Autocorrect is changing it. Delete the autocorrect entry for "i".
>
hanson wrote:
Thanks owl. You are a good man! I'll check it out.
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-19 23:23 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <na944a$rhl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343956 |
"KOOkensi" <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> the "kensidiot" is a doped up drunkard and a filthy swine, who cranked himself for realizing that his albedo is too low and dim to realize what was going on.... ahahahah... RTOFMAO < hanson wrote: Kensiturd, listen up: Take the example of poster "owl". "owl" suggested a quick & easy operational solution, while you, the kensidiotic cretin, are still loaded to your kensigills. Thanks for the laughs though... ahahahanson
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| From | "hanson" <hanson@quick.net> |
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| Date | 2016-02-20 08:23 -0800 |
| Subject | Re: Most phones have trouble connecting to WiFi. |
| Message-ID | <naa3oh$osq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #343962 |
"KOOkensi" <kkensington01@gmail.invalid> is still licking his own Dingleberries. LOL
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| From | "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_master.fake> |
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| Date | 2016-02-17 15:34 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK -- but I wouldn't use it. |
| Message-ID | <lrl9cbll0pfrjphb8qm9h08s9r5crqi3u7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #343748 |
On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 13:00:58 -0800 (Seattle), Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> wrote: >You (MrEzekiel) replied (to me): >> > Most cell phones can't handle WiFi properly, >> > even when 15 feet from the WiFi source. >> > Notebooks/Consoles are better, desktops are best. >> >> Never had a problem with the phone Wifi. >> My desktop has a wired connection. > >The latest iPhones handle WiFi OK, but others don't; >even so, it's not great -- I wouldn't use it. >A desktop with a decent WiFi adaptor works well. You are talking your ignorance, Mr. Relf. FYI, I have a Samsung Galaxy S5 that I found on the roadside a couple years ago. It was undamaged even though it appears somebody wished to throw it over the bridge into the water to collect insurance. It was locked with a PIN number. I contacted the carrier to see if they could notify the owner so I could return it to her. (It was in a pink case that reeked of perfume) The carrier was only interested in the SIM card number so they could deactivate it. They weren't the least bit interested in returning it to the owner probably already having provided her a new one for free but which she had to pay a 200 dollar deductible for. So, I Googled how to reset it and did so. Of course it wiped the slate clean and it booted up in original factory condition. I removed the useless SIM and have never used it with a carrier as a phone. Instead I use it as a handheld computer and it connects to WiFi easily and uses it quickly. I even installed an app called *Talkatone* on which I can make voice or text telephone calls over the WiFi. So, who needs a stinking IPhone. Jeff, if you were as smart as you claim to be you would know that today's smart phones are really all handheld computers with a phone app/SIM card slot. Android handheld computers are the best and the world's most used. > >> > Ben Jacoby intentionally avoids facts and logic. >> > In his little dream world, I'm not the manager >> > of a 32 unit apartment building (nor a C++ programmer). >> >> 32 units is a lot. >> Do you get a lot of people complaining about stuff? > >All day, every day. >I move people into/out_of units; lots of turnover. >I do most of the work myself, without help. > >Minimum wage, here in Seattle, is #13/hour this year, >$15/hour next year. Parking is $120/month. >Gas is $2.50/callon, I think (I don't drive). > >> > There are too many "Richard Stallmans" here, >> > and not enough Linuses. >> >> In the entire world there are many more Richard Stallmans >> than people like Linus making $10M a year. > >I don't expect everyone here to be rich; >but, also, I don't expect them to think like Richard Stallman. > >> > CraigsList allows a limited set of HTML tags, >> > as do many other forums; HTML is not a crime. >> > My posts begin: >> > >> > <h2><PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A, monospace !important;'> >> >> I've listed stuff on CL before. You just type or copy-paste the tags into >> the edit box. You don't use your newsreader for that do you? > >My CraigsList posts begin: > > <h2><pre> > >That's it, nothing more (HTML-wise). >I just type it in. My current ad: > > http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/roo/5414506921.html > >> HTML is not a crime. >> Web sites with excessive javascript should be. > >If I like a site, I whitelist some of its JavaScript servers, >and I write CSS rules for it; to wit: > > http://Jeff-Relf.Me/userContent.CSS.TXT -- Sir Gregory Hall, Esq. "It is my erudite opinion that a man should not mince words just to spare the sensibilities of the ignorant or the thin-skinned."
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-02-16 21:21 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. |
| Message-ID | <fhfia3.huf93@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #343702 |
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote: > > "benj" <none@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:0PHwy.64031$J36.25043@fx09.iad... >> On 02/16/2016 01:41 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >>> >>> >>> Qutoing (Feb 12, 2014): >>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Linus+Torvalds+income >>> <<<< >>> Linus Torvalds' Annual Salary: $10 Million Per Year. >>> Total Worth: $150 Million. >>> <<<< >>> Creator of Revision Control System and Git besides Kernel. >>> Torvalds first priority is FOSS, but he never minds using >>> Proprietary software to get best result. >> >>> > > Jeff - if you posted this to COLA then it's not showing up on my end. Still > using your custom HTML client?? > > $10-million/year - didn't look it up but when you usually see a number like > that it's not "salary." It's salary and stuff like stock-options, bonus and > other "incentives." Either way, good for Linus. It's what a similar > positions pay at other companies and he's earned the $$$. > > > >> Hey Rolf, just look at yourself sitting in in the dark mom's basement and >> COMPARE! > > Linus is beyond the top 0.1% income level. > If Linus had only written vi instead of Linux, he would be a billionaire.
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