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Statistics on 15.11.2015.

Started byMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
First post2015-11-15 03:27 +0100
Last post2015-11-17 13:36 -0800
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  Statistics on 15.11.2015. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-15 03:27 +0100
    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:22 -0800
      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 13:31 -0500
        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:51 -0800
          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 18:37 -0500
            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:00 -0700
              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 00:29 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:40 -0700
                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 01:22 +0000
                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 18:35 -0700
                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 02:54 +0000
                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 19:59 -0700
                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:27 +0000
                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 20:35 -0700
                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:52 +0000
                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 21:09 -0700
                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 04:57 +0000
                                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 22:33 -0700
                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 06:28 +0000
                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 08:49 -0700
                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 16:37 +0000
                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 10:30 -0700
                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:07 +0000
                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 11:18 -0700
                                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:29 +0000
                                                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 11:40 -0700
                                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 12:09 -0700
                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:18 +0000
                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 12:31 -0700
                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:41 +0000
                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:14 -0800
                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 13:26 -0700
                                                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:10 +0000
                                                                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 14:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:26 +0000
                                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 15:18 -0700
                                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:37 +0000
                                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 16:41 -0700
                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:51 +0000
                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:06 -0800
                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 17:13 -0700
                                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-19 00:01 +0000
                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 17:11 -0700
                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:06 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 18:18 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:27 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 19:19 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 03:15 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 20:32 -0700
                                                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 04:07 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 21:31 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 07:43 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:31 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:12 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 23:12 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:19 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 23:53 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 16:04 -0800
                                                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 17:07 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-20 00:28 +0000
                                                                                                                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 18:56 -0700
                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-19 07:56 -0600
                                                                                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:52 +0000
                                                                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:31 +0000
                                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-11-19 01:51 -0800
                                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:33 -0700
                                                                        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:15 -0700
                                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:46 -0800
                                                          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:28 +0000
                                                            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:17 -0700
            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 22:13 -0800
              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:35 -0500
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:05 -0800
                  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 17:13 -0500
                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-18 17:19 -0500
                      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 18:38 -0500
                    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 15:19 -0700
        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 12:55 -0700
          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:36 -0800

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#333082 — Statistics on 15.11.2015.

FromMelzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Date2015-11-15 03:27 +0100
SubjectStatistics on 15.11.2015.
Message-ID<20151115032729.48d032c5@maxa-pc>
articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC

Posters with most posts
Posts	Poster	Posters 54
206 	 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
184 	 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
150 	 Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
127 	 Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
111 	 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
69 	 owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
67 	 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
53 	 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
49 	 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
42 	 "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
38 	 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
37 	 DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
37 	 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
36 	 John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
26 	 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
25 	 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
24 	 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
22 	 Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
19 	 -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
16 	 Sandman <mr@sandman.net>
16 	 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
11 	 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
9 	 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
9 	 Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>
8 	 benj <none@gmail.com>
7 	 awoolmeyer@gmail.com
7 	 Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid>
7 	 Monkey Man <manm0nk3y@gmail.com>
7 	 cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
6 	 Saint George <stgeorge@england.eng>
6 	 Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
5 	 Mari van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid>
5 	 dvus <dven1@adelphia.net>
3 	 jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
3 	 Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org>
3 	 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com>
2 	 Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us>
2 	 burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@hub.hob>
2 	 William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
2 	 "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid>
2 	 Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
2 	 RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com>
2 	 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
2 	 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
2 	 ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
1 	 "Dr. John Grubor" <dr.john.grubor@gmail.com>
1 	 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer>
1 	 totsob <sane@theearth.com>
1 	 Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
1 	 Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
1 	 saneearth <sane@theearth.com>
1 	 Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201511.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
1 	 benj <nobody@gmail.com>
1 	 richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)

Subjects with most replies
Replies	Subject	Subjects 90
107 	 Linux beats Appil and Microshaft to run on 64 CPU desktop machine
65 	 OT: While we fight over if Muslims or Christians are more evil...
47 	 OT: Republican event features KIll The Gays religious whacko
45 	 Microsoft How Are You Stupid: Let Me Count The Ways
41 	 Windows 10 SIGNIFICANTLY outperforms Ubuntu counterpart on Intel Skylake
31 	 Floating Point Test Suite
26 	 Linux beats everyone with LibreOffice now starting in 1 second and opens files in 1 second
25 	 Steam Machine Review
14 	 OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016
14 	 Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
13 	 More than 20% of all desktop capable computers are running Linux
13 	 Poor Anne
10 	 Fallout 4
10 	 "Delay" but not stop Win10 upgrade
9 	 Dumbest COLA comment of they year award!
8 	 [OT] Friendly muslims
8 	 No Oktoberfest for GrayCloud
8 	 Steve Jobs movie bombs
8 	 The Glasser shanty in Prescott AZ
7 	 Linux Loons Mobilizing Against RedHat
7 	 Re: Steam Machine Review
7 	 All I want is to easily transfer files from Android to Linux using WiFi
6 	 Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
6 	 What The Muslim "Migration" Has Done For Sweden
6 	 Reliable OS for the dumpster divers
6 	 Blood Sacifices for Owl to Dance by ...
6 	 Statistics on 8.11.2015
5 	 New Google Maps pic of skinny runt John Gohde working on his shack
5 	 Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
5 	 A Linux Professional to Linux fans and enemies
4 	 OT: Ben Carson: Egyptian Pyramids Built For Grain Storage
4 	 Linux beats Appil and Microshaft to run on 64 CPU desktop machine
3 	 Trump on SNL
3 	 Ultrabook portables
3 	 Here we go once again
3 	 Microsoft and Red Hat working together
3 	 SteamOS gaming performs significantly worse than Windows
3 	 Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
3 	 The Parasite Is Glued Up Already
3 	 Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
3 	 ProtonMail pays Bitcoin ransom to stop DDoS attack then is attacked further
2 	 Terror attacks in Paris
2 	 Snit is Tim Cook
2 	 Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC.
2 	 Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
2 	 Floating Point Enigma - Please Solve
2 	 -HH is an Arse!
2 	 OT: Not a Clinton fan, but she is right on this
2 	 Android Linux more dangerous than Windoze
2 	 the new guy
2 	 Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
1 	 Fuck government "infrastructure" - take care of yourself
1 	 Re: Windows 10 SIGNIFICANTLY outperforms Ubuntu counterpart on Intel Skylake
1 	 Re: Windows 10 SIGNIFICANTLY outperforms Ubuntu counterpart on Intel Skylake
1 	 Re: Richard Stallman on Valve/Steam gaming.
1 	 Web access by OS
1 	 Feminists trying to frame Linus Torvalds
1 	 Re: Steam Machine Review
1 	 Re: Steam Machine Review
1 	 Linux beats Microshaft and Appil to be ported first to A10 and A20 CPUs
1 	 What Will Happen With The Snit Threads.
1 	 general relativity curvature of space = metaphor?
1 	 Alan Baker in rec.sport.golf
1 	 Is there a backdoor in Linux kernel?
1 	 What happens when Anne breaks?
0 	 Chromebook crouton/linux ramblings
0 	 Rockin with the satanic atheist glue
0 	 OT: How much would Sander's plans cost America
0 	 Why does the media not blame Christians?
0 	 OT: What Sander's says... what Republicans here
0 	 Re: SNIT wished someone dead!!!!!
0 	 OT: How much would Sander's plans cost America
0 	 Are Iowa Voters Stupid?
0 	 People like DooFuS and Snit want to eat you ...
0 	 Snit's terrorist utopia
0 	 Re: Don't want OneDrive?
0 	 UFO Video and such ...
0 	 Re: OT: Republican event features KIll The Gays religious whacko
0 	 Re: Why does the media not blame Christians?
0 	 Linux Steam Game Boxes trouncing the market
0 	 The Sock Army Has Been Mobilized Over In CSMA
0 	 Snit's America is anti-Christian
0 	 Democrats == gun confiscation
0 	 OT: As I have been saying about the economy
0 	 remixes
0 	 Snit hates Christians
0 	 Snit's News
0 	 Re: Trading software developed for Windoze only, no Linux support at all!
0 	 Gluey Snit Has Returned To comp.sys.mac.advocacy
0 	 Snit's anxiety

Most posts by newsreader,poster
Posts		Reader,Poster	Readers 55
205 	 Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 , Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
184 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110518 Thunderbird/3.1.10 , GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
150 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
127 	 Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) , Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain>
111 	 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.84 , Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
69 	 tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)) , owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
67 	 G2/1.0 , Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
53 	 unknown , Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
49 	 Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) , Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
42 	 Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 , "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
38 	 Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 , chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
37 	 Thunderbird on WinServer2012R2 , DFS <nospam@dfs.com>
37 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Desk Rabbit <me@example.com>
36 	 G2/1.0 , John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com>
26 	 slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) , JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
25 	 Claws Mail 3.13.0 (GTK+ 2.24.28; x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) , Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
24 	 slrn/1.0.2 (Linux) , Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
22 	 G2/1.0 , Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
19 	 G2/1.0 , -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
16 	 Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; GIT af87825 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) , vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
16 	 Sandmania 0.5 , Sandman <mr@sandman.net>
11 	 G2/1.0 , Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
9 	 Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP , Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>
9 	 KNode/4.4.8 , 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
8 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 , benj <none@gmail.com>
7 	 Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) , Monkey Man <manm0nk3y@gmail.com>
7 	 G2/1.0 , cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com>
7 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid>
7 	 G2/1.0 , awoolmeyer@gmail.com
6 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Saint George <stgeorge@england.eng>
6 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 , Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local>
5 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , dvus <dven1@adelphia.net>
5 	 Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; Unknown) , Mari van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid>
3 	 tin/2.2.1-20140504 ("Tober an Righ") (UNIX) (SunOS/5.10 (i86pc)) , jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
3 	 Unison/2.1.10 , Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com>
3 	 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.84 , Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org>
2 	 Xnews/5.04.25 , "Dr. John Grubor" <grubor@grubor.org.invalid>
2 	 Unison/2.2 , Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com>
2 	 Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.16.6; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) , burfordTjustice <burfordTjustice@hub.hob>
2 	 XPN/1.2.6 (Street Spirit ; Linux) , William Poaster <wp@dev.null>
2 	 KNode/4.3.5 , GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
2 	 Pan/0.139 (Sexual Chocolate; GIT bf56508 git://git.gnome.org/pan2) , ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
2 	 G2/1.0 , RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com>
2 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com>
2 	 unknown , Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us>
1 	 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 , Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com>
1 	 trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) , richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin)
1 	 unknown , Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201511.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
1 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 , benj <nobody@gmail.com>
1 	 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 , Poutnik <Poutnik4NNTP@gmail.com>
1 	 ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 , totsob <sane@theearth.com>
1 	 G2/1.0 , "Dr. John Grubor" <dr.john.grubor@gmail.com>
1 	 Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; Unknown) , saneearth <sane@theearth.com>
1 	 Pan/0.140 (Chocolate Salty Balls; Unknown) , Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer>
1 	 NewsTap/4.0.1 (iPhone/iPod Touch) , Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

Posters with most replies
Ratio	Replies/Posts	Poster
6/2	3.000000	ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
3/1	3.000000	"Mr Pounder Esquire" <MrPounder@RationalThought.com>
22/9	2.444444	7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
13/6	2.166667	Saint George <stgeorge@england.eng>
15/7	2.142857	Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid>
111/53	2.094340	Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
4/2	2.000000	RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com>
2/1	2.000000	Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201511.rodent.frell.theremailer.net>
2/1	2.000000	DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno <DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org>
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#333402

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-17 10:22 -0800
Message-ID<cfbf71db-75e2-49d5-9c47-ddc5416bb552@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#333082
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote:
> articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC
> 
> Posters with most posts
> Posts	Poster	Posters 54
> 206 	 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

As you can see, he's also busy in CSMA:

http://imgur.com/eKajlqn

He'll clear 1000 posts today easy and it's only noon on the 17th of the month. That's in just *two* newsgroups, using just *one* of handles... on just usenet (he's also posting to social media).

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#333404

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-17 13:31 -0500
Message-ID<n2frll$b6q$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#333402
On 2015-11-17 1:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC
>>
>> Posters with most posts
>> Posts	Poster	Posters 54
>> 206 	 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> 
> As you can see, he's also busy in CSMA:
> 
> http://imgur.com/eKajlqn
> 
> He'll clear 1000 posts today easy and it's only noon on the 17th of the month. That's in just *two* newsgroups, using just *one* of handles... on just usenet (he's also posting to social media).

I can't imagine how one person can post so much. My excuse is that my
posts are relatively short, but his are anything but.


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#333407

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-17 10:51 -0800
Message-ID<50a916f4-f8df-4b7b-ad84-018cc928ed24@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#333404
On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 11:31:30 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-17 1:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote:
> >> articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC
> >>
> >> Posters with most posts
> >> Posts	Poster	Posters 54
> >> 206 	 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> > 
> > As you can see, he's also busy in CSMA:
> > 
> > http://imgur.com/eKajlqn
> > 
> > He'll clear 1000 posts today easy and it's only noon on the 17th of the month. That's in just *two* newsgroups, using just *one* of handles... on just usenet (he's also posting to social media).
> 
> I can't imagine how one person can post so much. 

And this accounts for the fact that he's cut it in half, at least, on CSMA and COLA using the Snit handle.

> My excuse is that my
> posts are relatively short, but his are anything but.

He's unquestionably getting supported by the gov't he hates so much. His recurring theme that the rest of us should feel 'guilty' for everything under the sun is designed to keep us paying ('psych' 101 on guilt). The resources for his 'degrees' could have gone to someone who would have put them to actual use. What irks me about him the most is that he constantly complains about 'the rich' but people like him are a *much* bigger problem as they are burdening the system. In the U.S. there are millions and millions of people like him... and we can't afford them. They should be put to work doing something constructive that the government usually has to pay for... with *our* money.

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#333427

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-17 18:37 -0500
Message-ID<n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#333407
On 2015-11-17 1:51 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 11:31:30 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2015-11-17 1:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC
>>>>
>>>> Posters with most posts
>>>> Posts	Poster	Posters 54
>>>> 206 	 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>
>>> As you can see, he's also busy in CSMA:
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/eKajlqn
>>>
>>> He'll clear 1000 posts today easy and it's only noon on the 17th of the month. That's in just *two* newsgroups, using just *one* of handles... on just usenet (he's also posting to social media).
>>
>> I can't imagine how one person can post so much. 
> 
> And this accounts for the fact that he's cut it in half, at least, on CSMA and COLA using the Snit handle.
> 
>> My excuse is that my
>> posts are relatively short, but his are anything but.
> 
> He's unquestionably getting supported by the gov't he hates so much. His recurring theme that the rest of us should feel 'guilty' for everything under the sun is designed to keep us paying ('psych' 101 on guilt). The resources for his 'degrees' could have gone to someone who would have put them to actual use. What irks me about him the most is that he constantly complains about 'the rich' but people like him are a *much* bigger problem as they are burdening the system. In the U.S. there are millions and millions of people like him... and we can't afford them. They should be put to work doing something constructive that the government usually has to pay for... with *our* money.

Are the posters in CSMA different than the ones who were around years
ago when the guy was ousted from the group? I can't imagine that they
would be so willing to welcome him back after successfully getting rid
of him.


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Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / IFAW and PETA Supporter
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#333434

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 17:00 -0700
Message-ID<D2710DBC.6474D%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333427
On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
<.m@nsn.s> wrote:

> On 2015-11-17 1:51 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 at 11:31:30 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>>> On 2015-11-17 1:22 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 7:27:32 PM UTC-7, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>> articles 1477 since 2015-11-08 00:00:00 +0000 UTC
>>>>> 
>>>>> Posters with most posts
>>>>> Posts Poster Posters 54
>>>>> 206   Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>>> 
>>>> As you can see, he's also busy in CSMA:
>>>> 
>>>> http://imgur.com/eKajlqn
>>>> 
>>>> He'll clear 1000 posts today easy and it's only noon on the 17th of the
>>>> month. That's in just *two* newsgroups, using just *one* of handles... on
>>>> just usenet (he's also posting to social media).
>>> 
>>> I can't imagine how one person can post so much.
>> 
>> And this accounts for the fact that he's cut it in half, at least, on CSMA
>> and COLA using the Snit handle.
>> 
>>> My excuse is that my
>>> posts are relatively short, but his are anything but.
>> 
>> He's unquestionably getting supported by the gov't he hates so much. His
>> recurring theme that the rest of us should feel 'guilty' for everything under
>> the sun is designed to keep us paying ('psych' 101 on guilt). The resources
>> for his 'degrees' could have gone to someone who would have put them to
>> actual use. What irks me about him the most is that he constantly complains
>> about 'the rich' but people like him are a *much* bigger problem as they are
>> burdening the system. In the U.S. there are millions and millions of people
>> like him... and we can't afford them. They should be put to work doing
>> something constructive that the government usually has to pay for... with
>> *our* money.
> 
> Are the posters in CSMA different than the ones who were around years
> ago when the guy was ousted from the group? I can't imagine that they
> would be so willing to welcome him back after successfully getting rid
> of him.
> 

The are crapping their pants as they troll me. It is CLEARLY pissing them
off that try as they might, even digging back to 2004, they cannot find any
lies by me. Why they would want to? Who knows. They are insane. And they
cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde generally
means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
as a part of file or folder name if you want!)

Read their posts for amusement. :)


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#333438

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 00:29 +0000
Message-ID<f.3a3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333434
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
...
> They are insane. And they
> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde generally
> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
> 

Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
or directory name?
 

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#333440

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 17:40 -0700
Message-ID<D27116FA.6475B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333438
On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>> 
> ...
> 
>> They are insane. And they
>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde generally
>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>> 
> 
> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
> or directory name?

Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:

    Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
    only"? 

I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.



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#333445

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 01:22 +0000
Message-ID<fheja0.pad@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333440
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>> They are insane. And they
>>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde generally
>>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>>> 
>> 
>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>> or directory name?
> 
> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
> 
>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>     only"? 
> 
> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
> 

Why the exclamation here?

"hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
 

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#333446

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 18:35 -0700
Message-ID<D27123F6.64768%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333445
On 11/17/15, 6:22 PM, in article fheja0.pad@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> ...
>>> 
>>>> They are insane. And they
>>>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde
>>>> generally
>>>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have
>>>> it
>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>> or directory name?
>> 
>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>> 
>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>     only"? 
>> 
>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
> 
> Why the exclamation here?
> 
> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"

I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
:)

Hey, why don't you try to answer:

     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
     only"? 

Again, no tricks here.

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#333453

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 02:54 +0000
Message-ID<fheua03.apfa@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333446
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 6:22 PM, in article fheja0.pad@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> 
>>>>> They are insane. And they
>>>>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde
>>>>> generally
>>>>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have
>>>>> it
>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>> or directory name?
>>> 
>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>> 
>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>     only"? 
>>> 
>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>> 
>> Why the exclamation here?
>> 
>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
> 
> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
> :)
> 
> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
> 
>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>      only"? 
> 
> Again, no tricks here.
> 

It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.

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#333455

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 19:59 -0700
Message-ID<D27137B6.64782%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333453
On 11/17/15, 7:54 PM, in article fheua03.apfa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/15, 6:22 PM, in article fheja0.pad@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>>>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> They are insane. And they
>>>>>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde
>>>>>> generally
>>>>>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>> or directory name?
>>>> 
>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>> 
>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>     only"? 
>>>> 
>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>> 
>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>> 
>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>> 
>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
>> :)
>> 
>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>> 
>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>      only"? 
>> 
>> Again, no tricks here.
>> 
> 
> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
> 
But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
else? 


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#333458

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 03:27 +0000
Message-ID<fheauf0.pa3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333455
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 7:54 PM, in article fheua03.apfa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/15, 6:22 PM, in article fheja0.pad@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/15, 5:29 PM, in article f.3a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/15, 4:37 PM, in article n2gdj7$rfs$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>>>>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> They are insane. And they
>>>>>>> cannot answer the most simple of questions, such as what the tilde
>>>>>>> generally
>>>>>>> means in a path (hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>>> or directory name?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>     only"? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>>> 
>>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>>> 
>>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>>> 
>>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>>> 
>>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>      only"? 
>>> 
>>> Again, no tricks here.
>>> 
>> 
>> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>> 
> But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
> else? 
> 

It's wherever you set it to be, which might be on a ramdisk.
 

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#333460

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 20:35 -0700
Message-ID<D2714025.64796%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333458
On 11/17/15, 8:27 PM, in article fheauf0.pa3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>>>> or directory name?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>     only"? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>>>> 
>>>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
>>>> :)
>>>> 
>>>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>>>> 
>>>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>      only"? 
>>>> 
>>>> Again, no tricks here.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>> 
>> But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
>> else? 
>> 
> 
> It's wherever you set it to be, which might be on a ramdisk.

Seems you would agree it does not mean the hard drive only, nor is that even
the default... and anyone saying so would be showing they are technically
lost. 


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#333462

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 03:52 +0000
Message-ID<fhe00a.3rf@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333460
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 8:27 PM, in article fheauf0.pa3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>>>>> or directory name?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>>     only"? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them fail.
>>>>> :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>      only"? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, no tricks here.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>>> 
>>> But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
>>> else? 
>>> 
>> 
>> It's wherever you set it to be, which might be on a ramdisk.
> 
> Seems you would agree it does not mean the hard drive only, nor is that even
> the default... and anyone saying so would be showing they are technically
> lost. 
> 

My shell is bash.  Below is what the manpage has to say.  It does not
address mount points, and I don't see why they would be relevant.

<quote> 
   Tilde Expansion
       If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character  (`~'),  all  of  the
       characters  preceding  the  first unquoted slash (or all characters, if
       there is no unquoted slash) are considered a tilde-prefix.  If none  of
       the  characters  in  the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the
       tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possible login  name.
       If  this  login name is the null string, the tilde is replaced with the
       value of the shell parameter HOME.  If HOME is unset, the  home  direc???
       tory  of  the  user executing the shell is substituted instead.  Other???
       wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home  directory  associated
       with the specified login name.

       If  the  tilde-prefix  is  a  `~+', the value of the shell variable PWD
       replaces the tilde-prefix.  If the tilde-prefix is a `~-', the value of
       the  shell variable OLDPWD, if it is set, is substituted.  If the char???
       acters following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a  number  N,
       optionally  prefixed  by  a  `+' or a `-', the tilde-prefix is replaced
       with the corresponding element from the directory stack, as it would be
       displayed by the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an argu???
       ment.  If the characters following the tilde in the  tilde-prefix  con???
       sist of a number without a leading `+' or `-', `+' is assumed.

       If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion fails, the word is
       unchanged.

       Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-prefixes immedi???
       ately following a : or the first =.  In these cases, tilde expansion is
       also performed.  Consequently, one may use  filenames  with  tildes  in
       assignments  to  PATH,  MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell assigns the
       expanded value.
</quote> 

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#333464

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 21:09 -0700
Message-ID<D27147F7.6479F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333462
On 11/17/15, 8:52 PM, in article fhe00a.3rf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/15, 8:27 PM, in article fheauf0.pa3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>>>>>> or directory name?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>>>     only"?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them
>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>      only"? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Again, no tricks here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>>>> 
>>>> But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
>>>> else? 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> It's wherever you set it to be, which might be on a ramdisk.
>> 
>> Seems you would agree it does not mean the hard drive only, nor is that even
>> the default... and anyone saying so would be showing they are technically
>> lost. 
>> 
> 
> My shell is bash.  Below is what the manpage has to say.  It does not
> address mount points, and I don't see why they would be relevant.
> 
> <quote> 
>    Tilde Expansion
>        If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character  (`~'),  all  of  the
>        characters  preceding  the  first unquoted slash (or all characters, if
>        there is no unquoted slash) are considered a tilde-prefix.  If none  of
>        the  characters  in  the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the
>        tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possible login  name.
>        If  this  login name is the null string, the tilde is replaced with the
>        value of the shell parameter HOME.  If HOME is unset, the  home
> direc???
>        tory  of  the  user executing the shell is substituted instead.
> Other???
>        wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home  directory  associated
>        with the specified login name.
> 
>        If  the  tilde-prefix  is  a  `~+', the value of the shell variable PWD
>        replaces the tilde-prefix.  If the tilde-prefix is a `~-', the value of
>        the  shell variable OLDPWD, if it is set, is substituted.  If the
> char???
>        acters following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a  number  N,
>        optionally  prefixed  by  a  `+' or a `-', the tilde-prefix is replaced
>        with the corresponding element from the directory stack, as it would be
>        displayed by the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an
> argu???
>        ment.  If the characters following the tilde in the  tilde-prefix
> con???
>        sist of a number without a leading `+' or `-', `+' is assumed.
> 
>        If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion fails, the word is
>        unchanged.
> 
>        Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-prefixes
> immedi???
>        ately following a : or the first =.  In these cases, tilde expansion is
>        also performed.  Consequently, one may use  filenames  with  tildes  in
>        assignments  to  PATH,  MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell assigns the
>        expanded value.
> </quote> 
> 
I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
agree with you!)


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#333465

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 04:57 +0000
Message-ID<fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333464
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 8:52 PM, in article fhe00a.3rf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/15, 8:27 PM, in article fheauf0.pa3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does it also amaze you that your home directory could be /home/snit,
>>>>>>>>>> yet you could still have a file "home/snit" somewhere else on your
>>>>>>>>>> system?  Does it amaze you that "." or ".." can be part of a file
>>>>>>>>>> or directory name?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Er? I think you misread something. The question is simple:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>     Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>>>>     only"?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I could have just said "no" but I gave a more complete answer.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Why the exclamation here?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "hint, the user's home folder... though you can also have it
>>>>>>>> as a part of file or folder name if you want!"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am excited to give the morons of CSMA a hint... and still see them
>>>>>>> fail.
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey, why don't you try to answer:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive
>>>>>>>      only"? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again, no tricks here.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> But you have no answer for it if means the hard drive only or something
>>>>> else? 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It's wherever you set it to be, which might be on a ramdisk.
>>> 
>>> Seems you would agree it does not mean the hard drive only, nor is that even
>>> the default... and anyone saying so would be showing they are technically
>>> lost. 
>>> 
>> 
>> My shell is bash.  Below is what the manpage has to say.  It does not
>> address mount points, and I don't see why they would be relevant.
>> 
>> <quote> 
>>    Tilde Expansion
>>        If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character  (`~'),  all  of  the
>>        characters  preceding  the  first unquoted slash (or all characters, if
>>        there is no unquoted slash) are considered a tilde-prefix.  If none  of
>>        the  characters  in  the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the
>>        tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possible login  name.
>>        If  this  login name is the null string, the tilde is replaced with the
>>        value of the shell parameter HOME.  If HOME is unset, the  home
>> direc???
>>        tory  of  the  user executing the shell is substituted instead.
>> Other???
>>        wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home  directory  associated
>>        with the specified login name.
>> 
>>        If  the  tilde-prefix  is  a  `~+', the value of the shell variable PWD
>>        replaces the tilde-prefix.  If the tilde-prefix is a `~-', the value of
>>        the  shell variable OLDPWD, if it is set, is substituted.  If the
>> char???
>>        acters following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a  number  N,
>>        optionally  prefixed  by  a  `+' or a `-', the tilde-prefix is replaced
>>        with the corresponding element from the directory stack, as it would be
>>        displayed by the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an
>> argu???
>>        ment.  If the characters following the tilde in the  tilde-prefix
>> con???
>>        sist of a number without a leading `+' or `-', `+' is assumed.
>> 
>>        If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion fails, the word is
>>        unchanged.
>> 
>>        Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-prefixes
>> immedi???
>>        ately following a : or the first =.  In these cases, tilde expansion is
>>        also performed.  Consequently, one may use  filenames  with  tildes  in
>>        assignments  to  PATH,  MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell assigns the
>>        expanded value.
>> </quote> 
>> 
> I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
> that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
> any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
> anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
> agree with you!)
> 

Tilde expansion means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
I don't know what else to tell you.  Whatever physical or virtual device
(or portion thereof) that expansion actually points to is outside the
scope of the definition.  It very well may mean "the hard drive only"
if for instance /home/snit occupies the entirety of a hard drive.
What is the point of this question anyway, given that it is a question
without a real answer?

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#333466

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-17 22:33 -0700
Message-ID<D2715BB1.647B5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333465
On 11/17/15, 9:57 PM, in article fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
>> that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
>> any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
>> anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
>> agree with you!)
>> 
> 
> Tilde expansion means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
> I don't know what else to tell you.

Well, a direct answer would be good but you are clearly working hard to
avoid that. It is a game you are playing. No big deal.

Comes down to you have made it clear you do not think it means "the hard
drive only" nor do you think that is a common default or the like. Fine.

> Whatever physical or virtual device (or portion thereof) that expansion
> actually points to is outside the scope of the definition.  It very well may
> mean "the hard drive only" if for instance /home/snit occupies the entirety of
> a hard drive. 

But that is not the norm or the default or anything you have likely ever
encountered.

> What is the point of this question anyway, given that it is a
> question without a real answer?

The answer is easy: no, it does not mean that and anyone who said so, esp.
in a general sense, would be absurdly wrong and, if they claim to be at all
technically competent, at best it would show a big lacking in their
knowledge if not proof of them being outright liars. :)



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#333468

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-11-18 06:28 +0000
Message-ID<fhe0a.3ra@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#333466
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 9:57 PM, in article fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
>>> that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
>>> any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
>>> anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
>>> agree with you!)
>>> 
>> 
>> Tilde expansion means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>> I don't know what else to tell you.
> 
> Well, a direct answer would be good but you are clearly working hard to
> avoid that. It is a game you are playing. No big deal.
> 

No, you are confused.  The expansion (if done) is just an expansion to a
string.  Where that string actually points is not defined.  Asking "where
it is" is meaningless in a context restricted to the tilde itself and
its expansion.

> Comes down to you have made it clear you do not think it means "the hard
> drive only" nor do you think that is a common default or the like. Fine.
> 
>> Whatever physical or virtual device (or portion thereof) that expansion
>> actually points to is outside the scope of the definition.  It very well may
>> mean "the hard drive only" if for instance /home/snit occupies the entirety of
>> a hard drive. 
> 
> But that is not the norm or the default or anything you have likely ever
> encountered.
> 

What do you mean by "the default"?


>> What is the point of this question anyway, given that it is a
>> question without a real answer?
> 
> The answer is easy: no, it does not mean that and anyone who said so, esp.
> in a general sense, would be absurdly wrong and, if they claim to be at all
> technically competent, at best it would show a big lacking in their
> knowledge if not proof of them being outright liars. :)
> 

Saying "it does not mean that" is just as wrong as saying "it does mean that."
The tilde expansion does not address "where it is" at all.  And it is not
always expanded anyway:

anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ ls
~root
anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > ~root/kah
bash: /root/kah: Permission denied
anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > '~root'/kah
anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ tree
.
????????? ~root
    ????????? kah

1 directory, 1 file
anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ cat '~root'/kah
blah
anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ 

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#333502

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-11-18 08:49 -0700
Message-ID<D271EC27.6481F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#333468
On 11/17/15, 11:28 PM, in article fhe0a.3ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/17/15, 9:57 PM, in article fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
>>>> that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
>>>> any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
>>>> anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
>>>> agree with you!)
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tilde expansion means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>> I don't know what else to tell you.
>> 
>> Well, a direct answer would be good but you are clearly working hard to
>> avoid that. It is a game you are playing. No big deal.
>> 
> 
> No, you are confused.  The expansion (if done) is just an expansion to a
> string.  Where that string actually points is not defined.  Asking "where
> it is" is meaningless in a context restricted to the tilde itself and
> its expansion.
> 
>> Comes down to you have made it clear you do not think it means "the hard
>> drive only" nor do you think that is a common default or the like. Fine.
>> 
>>> Whatever physical or virtual device (or portion thereof) that expansion
>>> actually points to is outside the scope of the definition.  It very well may
>>> mean "the hard drive only" if for instance /home/snit occupies the entirety
>>> of
>>> a hard drive. 
>> 
>> But that is not the norm or the default or anything you have likely ever
>> encountered.
>> 
> 
> What do you mean by "the default"?
> 
> 
>>> What is the point of this question anyway, given that it is a
>>> question without a real answer?
>> 
>> The answer is easy: no, it does not mean that and anyone who said so, esp.
>> in a general sense, would be absurdly wrong and, if they claim to be at all
>> technically competent, at best it would show a big lacking in their
>> knowledge if not proof of them being outright liars. :)
>> 
> 
> Saying "it does not mean that" is just as wrong as saying "it does mean that."
> The tilde expansion does not address "where it is" at all.  And it is not
> always expanded anyway:
> 
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ ls
> ~root
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > ~root/kah
> bash: /root/kah: Permission denied
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > '~root'/kah
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ tree
> .
> 
> ????????? ~root
>     ????????? kah
> 
> 1 directory, 1 file
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ cat '~root'/kah
> blah
> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$

When I read a tech support article such as this one:

<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
    -----
    Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
    -----

I know EXACTLY which folder they mean (because I know in that context the
tilde means the user folder). No doubt at all.

Would you know what folder to go to? If so, how?


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