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yep, it's an iGay

Started byowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
First post2015-03-28 17:07 +0000
Last post2015-03-31 08:47 -0700
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  yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 17:07 +0000
    Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 13:10 -0400
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 12:17 -0700
        Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 12:24 -0700
          Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 -0400
            Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:47 -0700
              Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 09:28 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 12:41 -0400
                  Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 11:41 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 10:15 -0700
                  Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 11:35 -0700
                    Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:39 -0400
                    Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 12:43 -0700
                      Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 17:18 -0700
                        Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 17:35 -0700
                          Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 19:11 -0700
                            Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 20:13 -0700
                              Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-31 03:47 -0700
                                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 08:39 -0700
                                  Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-31 09:22 -0700
                                    Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 10:10 -0700
                                      Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-02 03:18 -0700
                                        Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 08:10 -0700
        Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 13:56 -0700
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 13:57 -0700
    Re: yep, it's an iGay Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-30 09:33 +0100
    Re: yep, it's an iGay Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-03-31 01:39 +0200
      Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-31 00:09 +0000
        Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 09:42 -0400
        Re: yep, it's an iGay Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-04-01 01:51 +0200
          Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 00:14 +0000
          Re: yep, it's an iGay Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-04-01 11:50 +0000
            Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 08:31 -0400
              Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-01 06:09 -0700
            Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 17:14 +0200
              Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:18 -0600
              Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 18:59 +0000
                Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-01 15:05 -0400
                  Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 20:49 +0000
                    Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 22:58 +0200
                      Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 21:57 +0000
                        Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-02 00:15 +0200
                          Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 23:10 +0000
                            Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-02 01:40 +0200
                              Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-02 00:07 +0000
                                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 20:56 -0400
                                  Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 17:15 -0600
                                    Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 01:23 +0200
                                      Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 19:08 -0600
                                    Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-02 21:55 -0400
                                      Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:46 -0600
                                        Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-03 15:52 -0400
                                          Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:32 -0600
                                            Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-05 01:09 +0200
                                              Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:38 -0600
                                            Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-05 11:29 -0400
                                              Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:33 -0600
                                        Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-04 18:06 -0700
                                          Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:31 -0600
                          Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 23:15 -0400
                            Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 23:48 -0400
            Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:18 -0600
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 20:19 -0400
        Re: yep, it's an iGay jeremywalmartprescottaz@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 17:42 -0700
    Re: yep, it's an iGay awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-31 08:47 -0700

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#287288

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-01 21:57 +0000
Message-ID<hhgbvye03.af3ep@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287275
Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> owl wrote:

>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>
>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than flatfish
>>>>> and
>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>> between
>>>>> their ears
>>>>
>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>
>>>> 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>
>>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>
>>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>
>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>
>> 
>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short while
>>> back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw this on the
>>> DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>> 
>>> <quote>
>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is removed
>>> from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>> 6 March 2015
>> 
>>>     * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made from
>>>     'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork concentration camp
>>>     in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have experimented with the
>>>     soap during the
>>> war
>>>     * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>     experiments
>> 
>>> </quote>
>> 
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>> 
>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at me
>> when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to wash
>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the grain.

> Who said anything about them using it themselves?

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
<quote>
"It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us working
in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity] in the
last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis actually
manufactured soap with human bodies."
...
Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
a cruel rumor at the camps."
</quote>

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#287295

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-04-02 00:15 +0200
Message-ID<mfhqk0$occ$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287288
owl wrote:

> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
> 
>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>
>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>>> between
>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>
>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>
>>> 
>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short while
>>>> back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw this on
>>>> the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>> 
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is removed
>>>> from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>> 6 March 2015
>>> 
>>>>     * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made from
>>>>     'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork concentration camp
>>>>     in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have experimented with the
>>>>     soap during the
>>>> war
>>>>     * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>     experiments
>>> 
>>>> </quote>
>>> 
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>> 
>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at me
>>> when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to wash
>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>> grain.
> 
>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
> 
> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
> <quote>
> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us working
> in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity] in the
> last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis actually
> manufactured soap with human bodies."
> ...
> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
> are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
> a cruel rumor at the camps."
> </quote>


Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler would 
have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly

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#287320

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-01 23:10 +0000
Message-ID<bvhd9.afp@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287295
Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> owl wrote:

>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> owl wrote:
>> 
>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short while
>>>>> back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw this on
>>>>> the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>> 
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is removed
>>>>> from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>> 
>>>>>     * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made from
>>>>>     'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork concentration camp
>>>>>     in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have experimented with the
>>>>>     soap during the
>>>>> war
>>>>>     * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>     experiments
>>>> 
>>>>> </quote>
>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>> 
>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at me
>>>> when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to wash
>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>> grain.
>> 
>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>> 
>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>> <quote>
>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us working
>> in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity] in the
>> last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis actually
>> manufactured soap with human bodies."
>> ...
>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
>> are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
>> a cruel rumor at the camps."
>> </quote>


> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler would 
> have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly

Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
It's not me "whitewashing" it.  Visit the site and read the report.
That is, unless your oppressive eurotard government has forbidden even
research on the subject now.

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#287321

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-04-02 01:40 +0200
Message-ID<mfhviv$8t7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287320
owl wrote:

> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
> 
>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw
>>>>>> this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>> 
>>>>>>     * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made
>>>>>>     from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>     concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have
>>>>>>     experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>> war
>>>>>>     * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>     experiments
>>>>> 
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at
>>>>> me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to
>>>>> wash
>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>> grain.
>>> 
>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>> 
>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>> <quote>
>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us
>>> working in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity]
>>> in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis
>>> actually manufactured soap with human bodies."
>>> ...
>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
>>> are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
>>> a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>> </quote>
> 
> 
>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
> 
> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.

Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels came 
into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would have 
liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine

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#287336

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-04-02 00:07 +0000
Message-ID<bvhd9e.khir@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#287321
Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> owl wrote:

>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> owl wrote:
>> 
>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw
>>>>>>> this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>     * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made
>>>>>>>     from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>     concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have
>>>>>>>     experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>     * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>>     experiments
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at
>>>>>> me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to
>>>>>> wash
>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>>> grain.
>>>> 
>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>> <quote>
>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>>>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us
>>>> working in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity]
>>>> in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis
>>>> actually manufactured soap with human bodies."
>>>> ...
>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
>>>> are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
>>>> a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>> </quote>
>> 
>> 
>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>> 
>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.

> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels came 
> into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would have 
> liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine

I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
<quote>
From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
propaganda assistant.
...
Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927. 
...
Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
headquarters.
...
When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded and
carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler. German
soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes that
deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The incidents
were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland,
the opening event of World War II.[92]
</quote>

Idiot.

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#287345

FromSlimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2015-04-01 20:56 -0400
Message-ID<mfi424$kha$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287336
On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>> owl wrote:
>
>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> owl wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying Tim
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of vacuum
>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I saw
>>>>>>>> this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made
>>>>>>>>      from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>      concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to have
>>>>>>>>      experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>      * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>>>      experiments
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out at
>>>>>>> me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would want to
>>>>>>> wash
>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>>>> grain.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>>>>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of us
>>>>> working in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi atrocity]
>>>>> in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that the Nazis
>>>>> actually manufactured soap with human bodies."
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the Holocaust
>>>>> are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he says. "It was
>>>>> a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>> </quote>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>>>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>
>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>
>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels came
>> into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would have
>> liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine
>
> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
> <quote>
>  From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
> propaganda assistant.
> ...
> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
> ...
> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
> headquarters.
> ...
> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded and
> carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler. German
> soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes that
> deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The incidents
> were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland,
> the opening event of World War II.[92]
> </quote>
>
> Idiot.

Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded 
the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to 
provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered 
for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew 
that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain 
and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do 
_anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against 
Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add, 
stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with 
Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and 
vulnerable border.

Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on 
many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the 
Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a 
force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something 
Germans are very good at, to defeat them.

If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right now.


-- 
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#287512

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-02 17:15 -0600
Message-ID<Xaqdnbf3x-3gUIDInZ2dnUU7-LWdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287345
Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>> owl wrote:
>>
>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>      * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made
>>>>>>>>>      from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>      concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>      have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>      * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>>>>      experiments
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>>>>> grain.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>>>>>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of
>>>>>> us working in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi
>>>>>> atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that
>>>>>> the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human bodies."
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>>>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the
>>>>>> Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he
>>>>>> says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>>>>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>
>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>
>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would
>>> have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine
>>
>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>> <quote>
>>  From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
>> propaganda assistant.
>> ...
>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>> ...
>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>> headquarters.
>> ...
>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded and
>> carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler. German
>> soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes that
>> deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The incidents
>> were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland,
>> the opening event of World War II.[92]
>> </quote>
>>
>> Idiot.
> 
> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
> vulnerable border.
> 
> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
> 
> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
> now.
> 
> 
I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
And that really pissed of Hitler.

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#287513

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-04-03 01:23 +0200
Message-ID<mfkiv1$8hc$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287512
GreyCloud wrote:

> Slimer wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> owl wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> 
> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>      * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>      made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>>      concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>>      have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>      * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>>>>>      experiments
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>>>>>> grain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and
>>>>>>> headed the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But
>>>>>>> those of us working in this area have not used it as an example [of
>>>>>>> Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any
>>>>>>> evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human
>>>>>>> bodies." ...
>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>>>>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the
>>>>>>> Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he
>>>>>>> says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>>>>>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>
>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>>
>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would
>>>> have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine
>>>
>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>> <quote>
>>>  From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
>>> propaganda assistant.
>>> ...
>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>> ...
>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>> headquarters.
>>> ...
>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded and
>>> carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler. German
>>> soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes that
>>> deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The incidents
>>> were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland,
>>> the opening event of World War II.[92]
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Idiot.
>> 
>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
>> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
>> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
>> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
>> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
>> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
>> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
>> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
>> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
>> vulnerable border.
>> 
>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
>> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
>> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
>> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>> 
>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
>> now.
>> 
>> 
> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
> And that really pissed of Hitler.

And the place you found that "information" is a arian nation site

What you claimed there is utter bullshit. No historian would claim such 
idiocy because he would get thrown out.

So we can add "disgusting racist swine" to your "description

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#287547

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-02 19:08 -0600
Message-ID<QvednakZVveAdYDInZ2dnUU7-T-dnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287513
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

> GreyCloud wrote:
> 
>> Slimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
>
> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> 
>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>      * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>>      made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>>>      concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>>>      have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>      * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>      the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat->
>>>>>>>>>>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and
>>>>>>>> headed the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But
>>>>>>>> those of us working in this area have not used it as an example [of
>>>>>>>> Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any
>>>>>>>> evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human
>>>>>>>> bodies." ...
>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of
>>>>>>>> the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap,"
>>>>>>>> he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>>>
>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He
>>>>> would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist
>>>>> swine
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>> <quote>
>>>>  From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>> ...
>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>> ...
>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>> headquarters.
>>>> ...
>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>>>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded
>>>> and carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler.
>>>> German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes
>>>> that deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The
>>>> incidents were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of
>>>> Poland, the opening event of World War II.[92]
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>> 
>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
>>> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
>>> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
>>> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
>>> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
>>> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
>>> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
>>> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
>>> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
>>> vulnerable border.
>>> 
>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
>>> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
>>> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
>>> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>> 
>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
>>> now.
>>> 
>>> 
>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
> 
> And the place you found that "information" is a arian nation site
> 
> What you claimed there is utter bullshit. No historian would claim such
> idiocy because he would get thrown out.
> 
> So we can add "disgusting racist swine" to your "description

Horse shit, sheeple boy.  There is german eyewitnesses and polish eyewitness 
accounts for this.  You were led by the nose to believe history in a certain 
way... and the rest was just trashed.  I'm not siding with that era of 
history, it is the revisionist historians view point to make things look 
plausible.
Of course outhouse turds like you wouldn't be able to discern the truth and 
reason it through using careful thought.  Something you haven't been taught 
how... yet.

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#287554

FromSlimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2015-04-02 21:55 -0400
Message-ID<mfkrsm$qls$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287512
On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>> owl wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you implying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly made
>>>>>>>>>>       from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>>       concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>>       have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>       * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped the
>>>>>>>>>>       experiments
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against the
>>>>>>>>> grain.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and headed
>>>>>>> the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But those of
>>>>>>> us working in this area have not used it as an example [of Nazi
>>>>>>> atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any evidence that
>>>>>>> the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human bodies."
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal Center,
>>>>>>> agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of the
>>>>>>> Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap," he
>>>>>>> says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler
>>>>>> would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>
>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>>
>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He would
>>>> have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist swine
>>>
>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>> <quote>
>>>   From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary and
>>> propaganda assistant.
>>> ...
>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>> ...
>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>> headquarters.
>>> ...
>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded and
>>> carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler. German
>>> soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes that
>>> deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The incidents
>>> were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland,
>>> the opening event of World War II.[92]
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
>> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
>> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
>> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
>> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
>> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
>> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
>> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
>> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
>> vulnerable border.
>>
>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
>> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
>> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
>> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>
>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
>> now.
>>
>>
> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
> And that really pissed of Hitler.

They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't 
explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech 
Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered 
him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for 
_any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?

Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's 
territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to 
allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German 
and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to 
connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether 
they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland 
and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way: 
Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost got 
to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one move 
was what caused him to lose the war.

-- 
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#287751

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-03 12:46 -0600
Message-ID<J6ednQ3JbZqVfYPInZ2dnUU7-UGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287554
Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
>> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>       * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>>       made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>>>       concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>>>       have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>       * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>       the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and
>>>>>>>> headed the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But
>>>>>>>> those of us working in this area have not used it as an example [of
>>>>>>>> Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any
>>>>>>>> evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human
>>>>>>>> bodies." ...
>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of
>>>>>>>> the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap,"
>>>>>>>> he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>>>
>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He
>>>>> would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist
>>>>> swine
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>> <quote>
>>>>   From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary
>>>>   and
>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>> ...
>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>> ...
>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>> headquarters.
>>>> ...
>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>>>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded
>>>> and carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler.
>>>> German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes
>>>> that deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The
>>>> incidents were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of
>>>> Poland, the opening event of World War II.[92]
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> Idiot.
>>>
>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
>>> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
>>> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
>>> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
>>> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
>>> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
>>> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
>>> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
>>> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
>>> vulnerable border.
>>>
>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
>>> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
>>> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
>>> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>>
>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
>>> now.
>>>
>>>
>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
> 
> They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
> explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
> Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
> him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for
> _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?

There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in Poland.
But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or twisting the 
truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were 
getting murdered in their own homes?
There is a lot more tied to this tho.  One factor was the 25% interest piled 
on to the war reparations act that could never be paid off.  It's called 
extortion.
And extortion always leads to violence, and the rest is history.

> 
> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost got
> to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one move
> was what caused him to lose the war.
> 

Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area during 
the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom bombs from 
germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would take 
another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well, the 
U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two were 
detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this 
certain plutonium supply problem.

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#287760

FromSlimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2015-04-03 15:52 -0400
Message-ID<mfmr13$por$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287751
On 2015-04-03 2:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
>>> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a short
>>>>>>>>>>>> while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc. Then I
>>>>>>>>>>>> saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month ago:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>        * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap reportedly
>>>>>>>>>>>>        made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of the Westerbork
>>>>>>>>>>>>        concentration camp in Holland * The Nazis are believed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>        have experimented with the soap during the
>>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>>        * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have stopped
>>>>>>>>>>>>        the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
>>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped out
>>>>>>>>>>> at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis would
>>>>>>>>>>> want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap," says
>>>>>>>>> Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United States
>>>>>>>>> Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993 and
>>>>>>>>> headed the museum’s research institute until 1997. "But
>>>>>>>>> those of us working in this area have not used it as an example [of
>>>>>>>>> Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't have any
>>>>>>>>> evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with human
>>>>>>>>> bodies." ...
>>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars of
>>>>>>>>> the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make soap,"
>>>>>>>>> he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you don't.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He
>>>>>> would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist
>>>>>> swine
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or two
>>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>    From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary
>>>>>    and
>>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>>> headquarters.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion of
>>>>> Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller masterminded
>>>>> and carried out a false flag project code-named Operation Himmler.
>>>>> German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms undertook border skirmishes
>>>>> that deceptively suggested Polish aggression against Germany. The
>>>>> incidents were then used in Nazi propaganda to justify the invasion of
>>>>> Poland, the opening event of World War II.[92]
>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>
>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>
>>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>>>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing to
>>>> provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have bothered
>>>> for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because they knew
>>>> that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty with Britain
>>>> and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries bothered to do
>>>> _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to defend against
>>>> Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I might add,
>>>> stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's deal with
>>>> Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing and
>>>> vulnerable border.
>>>>
>>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers on
>>>> many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were a
>>>> force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_, something
>>>> Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>>>
>>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic right
>>>> now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
>>
>> They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
>> explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
>> Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
>> him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for
>> _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
>
> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in Poland.
> But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or twisting the
> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were
> getting murdered in their own homes?
> There is a lot more tied to this tho.  One factor was the 25% interest piled
> on to the war reparations act that could never be paid off.  It's called
> extortion.
> And extortion always leads to violence, and the rest is history.

Except that the reparations were paid off in 2010. It was going to take 
forever and make Germany miserable until paid but the rest of the world 
was trying to prevent the country from arming itself again and 
succeeding at that plan. Germans didn't like the way their standard of 
living significantly dropped and who could blame them but it was 
deserved. It's possible that the Germans still living in Poland were 
being abused and killed, I'm not denying the possibility because there 
are definitely going to be hatred as a consequence of the fact that 
Poland didn't even exist during the First World War and was instead a 
German territory. However, considering Hitler's actions, it wouldn't be 
surprising to me if this turned out to just be another propaganda piece.

>> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
>> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
>> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
>> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
>> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
>> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
>> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
>> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost got
>> to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one move
>> was what caused him to lose the war.
>>
>
> Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area during
> the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom bombs from
> germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would take
> another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well, the
> U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two were
> detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this
> certain plutonium supply problem.

Had Germany gotten the bomb, I can't imagine what kind of world we would 
be living in today.

-- 
Slimer
OpenMedia, GreenPeace Supporter & SPCA Paw Partner
Encrypt.

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#287884

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-04 16:32 -0600
Message-ID<SLWdnWOFjbzm-73InZ2dnUU7-VGdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287760
Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-04-03 2:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
>>>> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> short while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        reportedly made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        the Westerbork concentration camp in Holland * The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        Nazis are believed to have experimented with the soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        stopped the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
>>>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped
>>>>>>>>>>>> out at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis
>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap,"
>>>>>>>>>> says Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United
>>>>>>>>>> States Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993
>>>>>>>>>> and headed the museum’s research institute until 1997.
>>>>>>>>>> "But those of us working in this area have not used it as an
>>>>>>>>>> example [of Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't
>>>>>>>>>> have any evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with
>>>>>>>>>> human bodies." ...
>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars
>>>>>>>>>> of the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make
>>>>>>>>>> soap," he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you
>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He
>>>>>>> would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist
>>>>>>> swine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or
>>>>>> two
>>>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>    From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary
>>>>>>    and
>>>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>>>> headquarters.
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion
>>>>>> of Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller
>>>>>> masterminded and carried out a false flag project code-named
>>>>>> Operation Himmler. German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms
>>>>>> undertook border skirmishes that deceptively suggested Polish
>>>>>> aggression against Germany. The incidents were then used in Nazi
>>>>>> propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland, the opening event of
>>>>>> World War II.[92] </quote>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>>>>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing
>>>>> to provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have
>>>>> bothered for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because
>>>>> they knew that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty
>>>>> with Britain and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries
>>>>> bothered to do _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to
>>>>> defend against Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I
>>>>> might add, stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's
>>>>> deal with Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing
>>>>> and vulnerable border.
>>>>>
>>>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers
>>>>> on many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were
>>>>> a force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_,
>>>>> something Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic
>>>>> right now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>>>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>>>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
>>>
>>> They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
>>> explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
>>> Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
>>> him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for
>>> _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
>>
>> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in
>> Poland. But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or
>> twisting the
>> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
>> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were
>> getting murdered in their own homes?
>> There is a lot more tied to this tho.  One factor was the 25% interest
>> piled
>> on to the war reparations act that could never be paid off.  It's called
>> extortion.
>> And extortion always leads to violence, and the rest is history.
> 
> Except that the reparations were paid off in 2010. It was going to take
> forever and make Germany miserable until paid but the rest of the world
> was trying to prevent the country from arming itself again and
> succeeding at that plan. Germans didn't like the way their standard of
> living significantly dropped and who could blame them but it was
> deserved. It's possible that the Germans still living in Poland were
> being abused and killed, I'm not denying the possibility because there
> are definitely going to be hatred as a consequence of the fact that
> Poland didn't even exist during the First World War and was instead a
> German territory. However, considering Hitler's actions, it wouldn't be
> surprising to me if this turned out to just be another propaganda piece.
> 
>>> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
>>> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
>>> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
>>> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
>>> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
>>> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
>>> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
>>> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost got
>>> to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one move
>>> was what caused him to lose the war.
>>>
>>
>> Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area
>> during the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom
>> bombs from
>> germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would
>> take
>> another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well, the
>> U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two were
>> detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this
>> certain plutonium supply problem.
> 
> Had Germany gotten the bomb, I can't imagine what kind of world we would
> be living in today.
> 
Lets put it this way... when I was in MI, I was told the harsh truth.
That literally turned my world upside down.
Germany used two on the eastern front, but Stalin was like a madman and shot 
any russians that didn't go forward.  He succeeded in kicking the germans 
butts finally.  But there was a limit on using them too close to home.

There was another documented item at the trinity test site where one of the 
scientists wanted to know if the uranium bomb would even work, not the 
plutonium one which was already tested, and the scientist got his answer 
that germans already used two in Russia.  Those events were kept classified 
for some reason for a very long time.  The last two were used in Japan and 
they weren't made from plutonium.  It took the u.s. a year or so to make 
another atom bomb back then.
In a ways, I wish that genie was never let out of the bottle.

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#287888

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-04-05 01:09 +0200
Message-ID<mfpqtb$ijb$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287884
GreyCloud wrote:

> Slimer wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-04-03 2:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
> 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px->>>>> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> 
> 
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc. Then I saw this on the DailyMail website less than one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> month ago:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        reportedly made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        the Westerbork concentration camp in Holland * The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        Nazis are believed to have experimented with the soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        stopped the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat->>>>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap,"
>>>>>>>>>>> says Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United
>>>>>>>>>>> States Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in
>>>>>>>>>>> 1993 and headed the museum’s research institute until
>>>>>>>>>>> 1997. "But those of us working in this area have not used it as
>>>>>>>>>>> an example [of Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We
>>>>>>>>>>> don't have any evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured
>>>>>>>>>>> soap with human bodies." ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars
>>>>>>>>>>> of the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make
>>>>>>>>>>> soap," he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you
>>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where
>>>>>>>> Göbbels came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into
>>>>>>>> power. He would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as
>>>>>>>> that racist swine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>    From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party
>>>>>>>    secretary and
>>>>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>>>>> headquarters.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion
>>>>>>> of Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller
>>>>>>> masterminded and carried out a false flag project code-named
>>>>>>> Operation Himmler. German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms
>>>>>>> undertook border skirmishes that deceptively suggested Polish
>>>>>>> aggression against Germany. The incidents were then used in Nazi
>>>>>>> propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland, the opening event of
>>>>>>> World War II.[92] </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had
>>>>>> invaded the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really
>>>>>> needing to provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't
>>>>>> have bothered for Poland either. The only reason that they did was
>>>>>> because they knew that the country was essentially "protected" by a
>>>>>> treaty with Britain and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two
>>>>>> countries bothered to do _anything_ to help the country out. Poland
>>>>>> was left to defend against Germany on its own for a while, and did it
>>>>>> very well I might add, stalling the country's advance, until the
>>>>>> Soviet Union's deal with Germany kicked in and they attacked on the
>>>>>> country opposing and vulnerable border.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers
>>>>>> on many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>>>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they
>>>>>> were a force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_,
>>>>>> something Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic
>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>>>>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>>>>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
>>>>
>>>> They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
>>>> explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
>>>> Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
>>>> him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking
>>>> for _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
>>>
>>> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in
>>> Poland. But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or
>>> twisting the
>>> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
>>> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were
>>> getting murdered in their own homes?
>>> There is a lot more tied to this tho.  One factor was the 25% interest
>>> piled
>>> on to the war reparations act that could never be paid off.  It's called
>>> extortion.
>>> And extortion always leads to violence, and the rest is history.
>> 
>> Except that the reparations were paid off in 2010. It was going to take
>> forever and make Germany miserable until paid but the rest of the world
>> was trying to prevent the country from arming itself again and
>> succeeding at that plan. Germans didn't like the way their standard of
>> living significantly dropped and who could blame them but it was
>> deserved. It's possible that the Germans still living in Poland were
>> being abused and killed, I'm not denying the possibility because there
>> are definitely going to be hatred as a consequence of the fact that
>> Poland didn't even exist during the First World War and was instead a
>> German territory. However, considering Hitler's actions, it wouldn't be
>> surprising to me if this turned out to just be another propaganda piece.
>> 
>>>> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
>>>> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
>>>> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
>>>> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
>>>> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
>>>> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
>>>> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
>>>> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost
>>>> got to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one
>>>> move was what caused him to lose the war.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area
>>> during the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom
>>> bombs from
>>> germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would
>>> take
>>> another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well,
>>> the U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two
>>> were
>>> detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this
>>> certain plutonium supply problem.
>> 
>> Had Germany gotten the bomb, I can't imagine what kind of world we would
>> be living in today.
>> 
> Lets put it this way... when I was in MI, I was told the harsh truth.
> That literally turned my world upside down.
> Germany used two on the eastern front

Idiot. Germany was at least 3 years away from the bomb when the war was 
over. Germany was more advanced than the US in several ways, like airplanes, 
rockets and submarines. But germany had no working nukes, and it was years 
away from them. They had not even enough heavy water to build a single 
nuclear reactor, at that time needed to breed plutonium or enrich uranium

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#287942

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-05 12:38 -0600
Message-ID<08KdnchwX7_EHLzInZ2dnUU7-LudnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287888
Peter Köhlmann wrote:

>>> surprising to me if this turned out to just be another propaganda piece.
>>> 
>>>>> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
>>>>> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
>>>>> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
>>>>> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
>>>>> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
>>>>> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
>>>>> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
>>>>> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost
>>>>> got to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one
>>>>> move was what caused him to lose the war.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area
>>>> during the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom
>>>> bombs from
>>>> germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would
>>>> take
>>>> another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well,
>>>> the U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two
>>>> were
>>>> detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this
>>>> certain plutonium supply problem.
>>> 
>>> Had Germany gotten the bomb, I can't imagine what kind of world we would
>>> be living in today.
>>> 
>> Lets put it this way... when I was in MI, I was told the harsh truth.
>> That literally turned my world upside down.
>> Germany used two on the eastern front
> 
> Idiot. Germany was at least 3 years away from the bomb when the war was
> over. Germany was more advanced than the US in several ways, like
> airplanes, rockets and submarines. But germany had no working nukes, and
> it was years away from them. They had not even enough heavy water to build
> a single nuclear reactor, at that time needed to breed plutonium or enrich
> uranium

That's what you were told and you stupidly believed them.
The U.S. in May of 1945 was over a year and a half from getting enough 
plutonium to may one atom bomb, not two.  It was a memo to the President at 
that time.  The german U-235 (not a pun either) has three Uranium bombs on 
board in gold plated cansisters.  One was used at the Trinity site, and the 
other two were used on Japan.

And two before that were used on the eastern front... and the Russians far 
outnumbered the Germans and kept on coming ... too close for Hitler to use 
those anyway.

Again, your history for the masses was pure pap by revisionist historians.

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#287920

FromSlimer <slvrslmr@lv.c>
Date2015-04-05 11:29 -0400
Message-ID<mfrkba$mgt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287884
On 2015-04-04 6:32 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-04-03 2:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2015-04-01 8:07 PM, owl wrote:
>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> owl wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ezekiel <zeke@nosuchemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:bvhfytr84.kjhor@rooftop.invalid...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marti van Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What are you trying to imply by "badass" and are you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> implying Tim Cook wears a pink Apple Watch?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bowel, like most Wintrolls here, is homophobic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He is also a nazi. A really disgusting racist. Even worse
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than flatfish and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DFS, i that is possible at all. Stupid rednecks with lots of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacuum between
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their ears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did your family keep any souvenirs from 1096?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg/170px-
>>>>> Gottfried_von_Bouillon_%28Hofkirche_Innsbruck%29_2006_0931C.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe from the nearby slave labor camp in 1945?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-07508CC6000005DC-7_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/11/22/article-1230025-075087A2000005DC-954_470x423_popup.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You Mainz bastards have a lot to account for.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pretty sick and twisted subject but I remember a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> short while back a bunch of posts about lampshades, soap, etc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I saw this on the DailyMail website less than one month
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bar of soap 'made from the fat of Jewish Holocaust victims' is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removed from eBay after Dutch owner put it up for sale
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6 March 2015
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         * The listing sought ?199 for the bar of soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         reportedly made from 'fat' * It was claimed victims of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         the Westerbork concentration camp in Holland * The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         Nazis are believed to have experimented with the soap
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         during the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> war
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         * SS leader Heinrich Himmler is reported to have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         stopped the experiments
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2982639/Bar-soap-fat-
>>>>> Jewish-Holocaust-victims-removed-eBay-Dutch-owner-sale.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The soap thing has been fairly well debunked, but what jumped
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out at me when first hearing the story was the idea that nazis
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would want to wash
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with soap made from melted jews.  It just kind of goes against
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the grain.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Who said anything about them using it themselves?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html
>>>>>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>>>>> "It's a general conception that the Nazis manufactured soap,"
>>>>>>>>>>> says Michael Berenbaum, who was project manager for the United
>>>>>>>>>>> States Holocaust Memorial Museum [USHMM] before it opened in 1993
>>>>>>>>>>> and headed the museum’s research institute until 1997.
>>>>>>>>>>> "But those of us working in this area have not used it as an
>>>>>>>>>>> example [of Nazi atrocity] in the last 10 to 15 years. We don't
>>>>>>>>>>> have any evidence that the Nazis actually manufactured soap with
>>>>>>>>>>> human bodies." ...
>>>>>>>>>>> Aaron Breitbart, a senior researcher at the Simon Wiesenthal
>>>>>>>>>>> Center, agreed that the evidence is thin. "The leading scholars
>>>>>>>>>>> of the Holocaust are of the opinion that the Nazis did not make
>>>>>>>>>>> soap," he says. "It was a cruel rumor at the camps."
>>>>>>>>>>> </quote>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all,
>>>>>>>>>> Himmler would have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Himmler knew a thing or two about propaganda.  Apparently you
>>>>>>>>> don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Himmler knew very little about "propaganda". That was where Göbbels
>>>>>>>> came into play. Himmler was a stupid fool who came into power. He
>>>>>>>> would have liked you a lot. You are just as stupid as that racist
>>>>>>>> swine
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't say he was Propaganda Minister.  I said he knew a thing or
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> about it.  Do you ever get *anything* right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Himmler
>>>>>>> <quote>
>>>>>>>     From mid-1924 he worked under Gregor Strasser as a party secretary
>>>>>>>     and
>>>>>>> propaganda assistant.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Strasser appointed Himmler deputy propaganda chief in January 1927.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Upon the resignation of SS commander Erhard Heiden in 1929,
>>>>>>> Himmler assumed the position of Reichsführer-SS with Hitler's
>>>>>>> approval;[36][39][a] he still carried out his duties at propaganda
>>>>>>> headquarters.
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> When Hitler and his army chiefs asked for a pretext for the invasion
>>>>>>> of Poland in 1939, Himmler, Heydrich, and Heinrich Müller
>>>>>>> masterminded and carried out a false flag project code-named
>>>>>>> Operation Himmler. German soldiers dressed in Polish uniforms
>>>>>>> undertook border skirmishes that deceptively suggested Polish
>>>>>>> aggression against Germany. The incidents were then used in Nazi
>>>>>>> propaganda to justify the invasion of Poland, the opening event of
>>>>>>> World War II.[92] </quote>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Idiot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Germany didn't even need to carry out the false flag. They had invaded
>>>>>> the Rhineland, the Czech Republic and Austria without really needing
>>>>>> to provide an explanation, you would think that they wouldn't have
>>>>>> bothered for Poland either. The only reason that they did was because
>>>>>> they knew that the country was essentially "protected" by a treaty
>>>>>> with Britain and France. Unfortunately, neither of the two countries
>>>>>> bothered to do _anything_ to help the country out. Poland was left to
>>>>>> defend against Germany on its own for a while, and did it very well I
>>>>>> might add, stalling the country's advance, until the Soviet Union's
>>>>>> deal with Germany kicked in and they attacked on the country opposing
>>>>>> and vulnerable border.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Poland has been forced to defend itself against these two superpowers
>>>>>> on many occasions in its history. They had successfully repelled the
>>>>>> Bolsheviks in 1920 for example proving that on equal ground, they were
>>>>>> a force to be reckoned with. Armies had to essentially _cheat_,
>>>>>> something Germans are very good at, to defeat them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it weren't for Polish hussars, Europe would be speaking Arabic
>>>>>> right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>>>>> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>>>>> And that really pissed of Hitler.
>>>>
>>>> They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
>>>> explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
>>>> Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
>>>> him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for
>>>> _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
>>>
>>> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in
>>> Poland. But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or
>>> twisting the
>>> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
>>> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were
>>> getting murdered in their own homes?
>>> There is a lot more tied to this tho.  One factor was the 25% interest
>>> piled
>>> on to the war reparations act that could never be paid off.  It's called
>>> extortion.
>>> And extortion always leads to violence, and the rest is history.
>>
>> Except that the reparations were paid off in 2010. It was going to take
>> forever and make Germany miserable until paid but the rest of the world
>> was trying to prevent the country from arming itself again and
>> succeeding at that plan. Germans didn't like the way their standard of
>> living significantly dropped and who could blame them but it was
>> deserved. It's possible that the Germans still living in Poland were
>> being abused and killed, I'm not denying the possibility because there
>> are definitely going to be hatred as a consequence of the fact that
>> Poland didn't even exist during the First World War and was instead a
>> German territory. However, considering Hitler's actions, it wouldn't be
>> surprising to me if this turned out to just be another propaganda piece.
>>
>>>> Once Poland was reformed after the World War, Germany lost Poland's
>>>> territory and had to concede territory that had always been theirs to
>>>> allow Poland to have access to water. The Danzig area remained German
>>>> and they claimed that they wanted to make some sort of highway to
>>>> connect that area to Germany. It was merely propaganda though. Whether
>>>> they had lost their territory or not, they would have attacked Poland
>>>> and tried to conquer it one way or the other. Look at it this way:
>>>> Hitler stupidly attacked his most powerful ally in Stalin. He almost got
>>>> to Moscow and took it over mind you, but since he didn't, that one move
>>>> was what caused him to lose the war.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed on that last part.  There are some facts from Alamagordo area
>>> during the early part of 1945 where the U.S. actually got three atom
>>> bombs from
>>> germany.  A memo to the white house in May of 1945 said that it would
>>> take
>>> another year or more to get enough plutonium to make one bomb.  Well, the
>>> U.S. detonated one of those at the Trinity site, and the other two were
>>> detonated in Japan.  So it shows some thread of truth considering this
>>> certain plutonium supply problem.
>>
>> Had Germany gotten the bomb, I can't imagine what kind of world we would
>> be living in today.
>>
> Lets put it this way... when I was in MI, I was told the harsh truth.
> That literally turned my world upside down.
> Germany used two on the eastern front, but Stalin was like a madman and shot
> any russians that didn't go forward.  He succeeded in kicking the germans
> butts finally.  But there was a limit on using them too close to home.

There's a lot more to that story. For one thing, the Soviet union had a 
near infinite amount of soldiers. It didn't matter how many Germany shot 
down because more would pop up to take their place. Also, Germany would 
unprepared for the battle on Soviet ground. They were sure that they 
would take down the Soviets before winter came so when they didn't, 
their men were forced to endure -20 to -40c temperatures with very few 
layers of protection. The weather took down as many Germans as the 
Soviets killed. Their equipment was also unable to endure the cold and 
their vehicles in particular had to be warmed up for hours before use. 
The Soviets, used to the climate, were a lot more prepared. Finally, 
even though the Nazis were at one point just kilometers away from taking 
Moscow, they were suddenly re-routed to Stalingrad so that Hitler could 
bruise Stalin's ego. Sure, there was a stalemate near Moscow which was 
killing off the Germans, but had they kept on, the capital and therefore 
the country would have been theirs had Hitler not decided to try to 
conquer a relative useless place like Stalingrad. Oh, and Hitler also 
refused to retreat. The only difference was that the Nazis didn't shoot 
anyone who took a step back like the Soviets did.

> There was another documented item at the trinity test site where one of the
> scientists wanted to know if the uranium bomb would even work, not the
> plutonium one which was already tested, and the scientist got his answer
> that germans already used two in Russia.  Those events were kept classified
> for some reason for a very long time.  The last two were used in Japan and
> they weren't made from plutonium.  It took the u.s. a year or so to make
> another atom bomb back then.
> In a ways, I wish that genie was never let out of the bottle.

They didn't have much of a choice. It was either the Americans sent a 
million or so soldiers to their deaths or they attacked quickly and 
decisively. The Japanese REFUSED to surrender and were willing to kill 
themselves in kamikaze attacks to deal as much damage as possible. 
Truman had no choice but to make a point with the bombs rather than kill 
more men.


-- 
Slimer
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#287941

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-05 12:33 -0600
Message-ID<t_6dnVdYOc-XHbzInZ2dnUU7-SOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287920
Slimer wrote:


> There's a lot more to that story. For one thing, the Soviet union had a
> near infinite amount of soldiers. It didn't matter how many Germany shot
> down because more would pop up to take their place. Also, Germany would
> unprepared for the battle on Soviet ground. They were sure that they
> would take down the Soviets before winter came so when they didn't,
> their men were forced to endure -20 to -40c temperatures with very few
> layers of protection. The weather took down as many Germans as the
> Soviets killed. Their equipment was also unable to endure the cold and
> their vehicles in particular had to be warmed up for hours before use.
> The Soviets, used to the climate, were a lot more prepared. Finally,
> even though the Nazis were at one point just kilometers away from taking
> Moscow, they were suddenly re-routed to Stalingrad so that Hitler could
> bruise Stalin's ego. Sure, there was a stalemate near Moscow which was
> killing off the Germans, but had they kept on, the capital and therefore
> the country would have been theirs had Hitler not decided to try to
> conquer a relative useless place like Stalingrad. Oh, and Hitler also
> refused to retreat. The only difference was that the Nazis didn't shoot
> anyone who took a step back like the Soviets did.
> 
>> There was another documented item at the trinity test site where one of
>> the scientists wanted to know if the uranium bomb would even work, not
>> the plutonium one which was already tested, and the scientist got his
>> answer
>> that germans already used two in Russia.  Those events were kept
>> classified
>> for some reason for a very long time.  The last two were used in Japan
>> and
>> they weren't made from plutonium.  It took the u.s. a year or so to make
>> another atom bomb back then.
>> In a ways, I wish that genie was never let out of the bottle.
> 
> They didn't have much of a choice. It was either the Americans sent a
> million or so soldiers to their deaths or they attacked quickly and
> decisively. The Japanese REFUSED to surrender and were willing to kill
> themselves in kamikaze attacks to deal as much damage as possible.
> Truman had no choice but to make a point with the bombs rather than kill
> more men.
> 
> 
Of course.  Still, we were beating them, but I heard from the inside that it 
was used more for the psychological effects.

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#287901

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2015-04-04 18:06 -0700
Message-ID<d61295da-0c68-48c1-9578-4e2f338a4d8d@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#287751
GreyCloud wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
> > On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> >> 
> >> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
> >> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
> >> And that really pissed of Hitler.
> > 
> > They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
> > explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
> > Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
> > him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking for
> > _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
> 
> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in Poland.
> But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or twisting the 
> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were 
> getting murdered in their own homes?
> There is a lot more tied to this tho....

There were problems both during, before & after.   A colleague hasn't ever
mentioned it unambiguously, but the oblique references are that his family 
was one of the Germans who were kicked out of Austria after WW2...today,
we would call that 'Ethnic Cleansing'.

And on my own travels, was shown this memorial marker:

<http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/EU/2009-Chzech_memory>

Its in CH; can't recall the specifics, but I believe it was raised in memory to 
Germans who were citizens of the CH but were nevertheless killed in their 
home town ... basically "revenge" killings and also WW2 vintage.  Will have
to see if the travel diary lists any better/more details.


-hh
 

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#287940

FromGreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>
Date2015-04-05 12:31 -0600
Message-ID<t_6dnVRYOc8a4rzInZ2dnUU7-SOdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#287901
-hh wrote:

> GreyCloud wrote:
>> Slimer wrote:
>> > On 2015-04-02 7:15 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> I just got thru reading an item regarding the polish invasion.
>> >> It seems that the poles were killing germans that lived in poland.
>> >> And that really pissed of Hitler.
>> > 
>> > They might have been bothering them, but if that were true, it wouldn't
>> > explain why Hitler invaded the Rhineland, Austria-Hungary and the Czech
>> > Republic. Does history claim that events within their borders angered
>> > him or is it simply true that he was an expansionist who was looking
>> > for _any_ imaginable reason to attack his neighbours?
>> 
>> There are photos in the archive showing the dead german families in
>> Poland. But the real problem is revisionist historians rewriting or
>> twisting the
>> truth around to the winners viewpoint.  Doesn't matter now tho.
>> Like who wouldn't get pissed if they find out that their countrymen were
>> getting murdered in their own homes?
>> There is a lot more tied to this tho....
> 
> There were problems both during, before & after.   A colleague hasn't ever
> mentioned it unambiguously, but the oblique references are that his family
> was one of the Germans who were kicked out of Austria after WW2...today,
> we would call that 'Ethnic Cleansing'.
> 
> And on my own travels, was shown this memorial marker:
> 
> <http://www.huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/EU/2009-Chzech_memory>
> 
> Its in CH; can't recall the specifics, but I believe it was raised in
> memory to Germans who were citizens of the CH but were nevertheless killed
> in their
> home town ... basically "revenge" killings and also WW2 vintage.  Will
> have to see if the travel diary lists any better/more details.
> 
> 

I'm sure that if one could visit all around europe he could find a lot of 
these memorials where this sort of thing happened.  Wars always bring out 
the worst in humanity.

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FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2015-04-01 23:15 -0400
Message-ID<mfic6m$6hm$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#287295
On 4/1/2015 6:15 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:


> Feel free to whitewhash your fellow nazi-bastards. After all, Himmler would
> have welcomed racist swine like you rather warmly

What were your parents and grandparents doing between 1933 and 1945, 
dumbkopf?

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