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Re: yep, it's an iGay

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Slimer wrote:


> There's a lot more to that story. For one thing, the Soviet union had a
> near infinite amount of soldiers. It didn't matter how many Germany shot
> down because more would pop up to take their place. Also, Germany would
> unprepared for the battle on Soviet ground. They were sure that they
> would take down the Soviets before winter came so when they didn't,
> their men were forced to endure -20 to -40c temperatures with very few
> layers of protection. The weather took down as many Germans as the
> Soviets killed. Their equipment was also unable to endure the cold and
> their vehicles in particular had to be warmed up for hours before use.
> The Soviets, used to the climate, were a lot more prepared. Finally,
> even though the Nazis were at one point just kilometers away from taking
> Moscow, they were suddenly re-routed to Stalingrad so that Hitler could
> bruise Stalin's ego. Sure, there was a stalemate near Moscow which was
> killing off the Germans, but had they kept on, the capital and therefore
> the country would have been theirs had Hitler not decided to try to
> conquer a relative useless place like Stalingrad. Oh, and Hitler also
> refused to retreat. The only difference was that the Nazis didn't shoot
> anyone who took a step back like the Soviets did.
> 
>> There was another documented item at the trinity test site where one of
>> the scientists wanted to know if the uranium bomb would even work, not
>> the plutonium one which was already tested, and the scientist got his
>> answer
>> that germans already used two in Russia.  Those events were kept
>> classified
>> for some reason for a very long time.  The last two were used in Japan
>> and
>> they weren't made from plutonium.  It took the u.s. a year or so to make
>> another atom bomb back then.
>> In a ways, I wish that genie was never let out of the bottle.
> 
> They didn't have much of a choice. It was either the Americans sent a
> million or so soldiers to their deaths or they attacked quickly and
> decisively. The Japanese REFUSED to surrender and were willing to kill
> themselves in kamikaze attacks to deal as much damage as possible.
> Truman had no choice but to make a point with the bombs rather than kill
> more men.
> 
> 
Of course.  Still, we were beating them, but I heard from the inside that it 
was used more for the psychological effects.

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yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-28 17:07 +0000
  Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 13:10 -0400
    Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 12:17 -0700
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 12:24 -0700
        Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-28 22:23 -0400
          Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 19:47 -0700
            Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 09:28 -0700
              Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 12:41 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 11:41 -0700
              Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 10:15 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 11:35 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-03-30 15:39 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 12:43 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 17:18 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 17:35 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-30 19:11 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-30 20:13 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-31 03:47 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-31 08:39 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-03-31 09:22 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-01 10:10 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-02 03:18 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-04-02 08:10 -0700
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 13:56 -0700
    Re: yep, it's an iGay Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-03-28 13:57 -0700
  Re: yep, it's an iGay Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-03-30 09:33 +0100
  Re: yep, it's an iGay Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-03-31 01:39 +0200
    Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-03-31 00:09 +0000
      Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-03-31 09:42 -0400
      Re: yep, it's an iGay Marti van Lin <ml2mst@nospam.indvalid> - 2015-04-01 01:51 +0200
        Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 00:14 +0000
        Re: yep, it's an iGay Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-04-01 11:50 +0000
          Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 08:31 -0400
            Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-01 06:09 -0700
          Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 17:14 +0200
            Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:18 -0600
            Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 18:59 +0000
              Re: yep, it's an iGay "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-04-01 15:05 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 20:49 +0000
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-01 22:58 +0200
                Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 21:57 +0000
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-02 00:15 +0200
                Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-01 23:10 +0000
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-02 01:40 +0200
                Re: yep, it's an iGay owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-04-02 00:07 +0000
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 20:56 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 17:15 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-03 01:23 +0200
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-02 19:08 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-02 21:55 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-03 12:46 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-03 15:52 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-04 16:32 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-04-05 01:09 +0200
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:38 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-05 11:29 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:33 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-04-04 18:06 -0700
                Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-05 12:31 -0600
                Re: yep, it's an iGay DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-04-01 23:15 -0400
                Re: yep, it's an iGay Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2015-04-01 23:48 -0400
          Re: yep, it's an iGay GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-04-01 12:18 -0600
    Re: yep, it's an iGay Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-03-30 20:19 -0400
      Re: yep, it's an iGay jeremywalmartprescottaz@gmail.com - 2015-03-30 17:42 -0700
  Re: yep, it's an iGay awoolmeyer@gmail.com - 2015-03-31 08:47 -0700

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