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| Started by | Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> |
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| First post | 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500 |
| Last post | 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500 |
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Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:56 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0000
Snit was too droopy to answer... or was it because of his scurvy... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:14 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:13 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:48 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 09:57 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 08:49 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 08:56 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:41 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 11:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:55 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 12:06 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:16 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:56 -0700
He dunno, so I told him... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:32 -0500
He is nobody, so I told him... dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:40 +0000
Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:07 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:19 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:30 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:39 +0200
Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:49 -0700
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:55 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:04 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:24 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:47 +0200
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:58 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:26 -0700
Snit is arguing with himself Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:25 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:40 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 20:41 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:45 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:04 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:21 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:02 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 08:44 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:06 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:49 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:55 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:07 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:46 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-08-30 13:27 +0100
Like you are as well, eh Dumb Willie? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:36 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:10 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 22:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 23:23 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:08 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 11:14 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:12 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:19 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:30 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:33 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:08 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:32 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "Drew P. Bawls" <drewpballs@nowhere2.net> - 2015-08-31 21:40 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:34 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:32 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <am3f03.a3o@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #319275 |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>> >>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>> them. >>>>> >>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>> >>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >> >>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>> restarting whole GUI system. >> >> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder > Are you trying to prove me wrong? No, but google is. Take it up with them. > Are you kidding? Not really. > Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what > will happen? "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
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| From | dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msh305$c6u$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #319277 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>> them. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>> >>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>> >>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>> >>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder > >> Are you trying to prove me wrong? > > No, but google is. Take it up with them. > >> Are you kidding? > > Not really. > >> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >> will happen? > > "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing > will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what kind of app it is. -- dunno
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fsnmv8e.adsfi@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #319279 |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>> >>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>> >>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>> >>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >> >>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >> >> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >> >>> Are you kidding? >> >> Not really. >> >>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>> will happen? >> >> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. > Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what > kind of app it is. Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with $ killall Finder. I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: $ file `which Finder`
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| From | dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msh4bv$f1f$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #319284 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>> >>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>> >>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>> >>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>> >>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>> >>>> Are you kidding? >>> >>> Not really. >>> >>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>> will happen? >>> >>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. > >> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >> kind of app it is. > > Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with > > $ killall Finder. > > I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: > > $ file `which Finder` $ which Finder Finder not found P.S. You better try harder. -- dunno
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <asdfmv8.kfida@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #319285 |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>> >>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>> >>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>> >>>>> Are you kidding? >>>> >>>> Not really. >>>> >>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>> will happen? >>>> >>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >> >>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>> kind of app it is. >> >> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >> >> $ killall Finder. >> >> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >> >> $ file `which Finder` > $ which Finder > Finder not found Mack really returns that? And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. $ uname -a FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ which Finder $ If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find what process is using that name and track it down.
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <20150906124316.084bbb7c@maxa-pc> |
| In reply to | #319286 |
On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:40:41 +0000 (UTC) owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > >>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article > >>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" > >>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article > >>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" > >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the > >>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, > >>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an > >>>>>>>>>> application, not of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have > >>>>>>>>>> them, and Linux does not lack them. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an > >>>>>>>> "environment." > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application > >>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't > >>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ > >>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder > >>>> > >>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? > >>>> > >>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. > >>>> > >>>>> Are you kidding? > >>>> > >>>> Not really. > >>>> > >>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine > >>>>> and see what will happen? > >>>> > >>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same > >>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. > >> > >>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can > >>> see what kind of app it is. > >> > >> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with > >> > >> $ killall Finder. > >> > >> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: > >> > >> $ file `which Finder` > > > $ which Finder > > Finder not found > > Mack really returns that? > And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. > $ uname -a > FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov > 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 > root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ > which Finder $ > > If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find > what process is using that name and track it down. > Finder is started as daemon, it can be started/stopped with launchctl. bmaxa:~ bmaxa$ launchctl list | grep -i finder 267 0 com.apple.Finder bmaxa:~ bmaxa$ ps ax | grep -i finder 267 ?? S 0:50.47 /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
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| From | dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msh5tn$4jf$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #319286 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not
>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack
>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called
>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without
>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you kidding?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not really.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what
>>>>>> will happen?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing
>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
>>>
>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what
>>>> kind of app it is.
>>>
>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
>>>
>>> $ killall Finder.
>>>
>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try:
>>>
>>> $ file `which Finder`
>
>> $ which Finder
>> Finder not found
>
> Mack really returns that?
> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11
> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
> $ which Finder
> $
>
> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
> what process is using that name and track it down.
Of course Finder can be tracked down. But you'll find it not where OS X
keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system
gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder?
--
dunno
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <adf.kfd03@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #319288 |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>> >>>>>> Not really. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>>>> will happen? >>>>>> >>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>> >>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>>>> kind of app it is. >>>> >>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>> >>>> $ killall Finder. >>>> >>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>> >>>> $ file `which Finder` >> >>> $ which Finder >>> Finder not found >> >> Mack really returns that? >> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >> $ uname -a >> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >> $ which Finder >> $ >> >> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >> what process is using that name and track it down. > Of course Finder can be tracked down. If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. > But you'll find it not where OS X > keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system > gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder? > Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path?
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| From | dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msh8he$a5j$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #319289 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>>>>> will happen? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>> >>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>>>>> kind of app it is. >>>>> >>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>> >>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>> >>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>> >>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>> >>>> $ which Finder >>>> Finder not found >>> >>> Mack really returns that? >>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>> $ uname -a >>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>> $ which Finder >>> $ >>> >>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>> what process is using that name and track it down. > >> Of course Finder can be tracked down. > > If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to > point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) > you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." > Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. > >> But you'll find it not where OS X >> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system >> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder? >> > > Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. > Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks in advance. -- dunno
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <msh93q$g8j$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #319290 |
dunno wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and >>>>>>>>> see what will happen? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same >>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see >>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>> >>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>> >>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>> >>>>> $ which Finder >>>>> Finder not found >>>> >>>> Mack really returns that? >>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>> $ uname -a >>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>> which Finder $ >>>> >>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >> >>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >> >> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >> >>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>> Finder? >>> >> >> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? > > Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer > you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find > out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks > in advance. > Idiot
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <EtOdnXozZc_6AXHInZ2dnUU7-YWdnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #319293 |
On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > dunno wrote: > >> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and >>>>>>>>>> see what will happen? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same >>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see >>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>> >>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>> Finder not found >>>>> >>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>> $ uname -a >>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>> which Finder $ >>>>> >>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>> >>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>> >>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>> >>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>>> Finder? >>>> >>> >>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? >> >> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer >> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find >> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks >> in advance. >> > > Idiot LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <msi6a3$3jm$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #319387 |
GreyCloud wrote: > On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> dunno wrote: >> >>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine >>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same >>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see >>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>> >>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>> >>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov >>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>> >>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>> >>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>> >>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>> >>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>>>> Finder? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? >>> >>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you >>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>> >> >> Idiot > > LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". > There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, flatfish... A long list would follow
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <voSdnYXHD9tDynPInZ2dnUU7-fudnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #319389 |
On 09/06/15 14:07, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > GreyCloud wrote: > >> On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> dunno wrote: >>> >>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine >>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same >>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see >>>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov >>>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>>> >>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>>> >>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>>> >>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>>>>> Finder? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? >>>> >>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you >>>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>>> >>> >>> Idiot >> >> LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". >> > > There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, > flatfish... A lot smarter than you will ever be. One of your mistakes in your maintenance career was working for Data General, if you ever worked for them. > A long list would follow > Which is one you can't seem to make up yet. LOL!!! As an aside, I'm glad the German peoples are doing something about the refugees. Shame on the hungarian government. -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <msmnir$6pp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #319591 |
On 2015-09-07 11:37 PM, GreyCloud wrote: > On 09/06/15 14:07, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> GreyCloud wrote: >> >>> On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> dunno wrote: >>>> >>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine >>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the >>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we >>>>>>>>>>> can see >>>>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd >>>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue >>>>>>>> Nov >>>>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then >>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>>>> >>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>>>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>>>>>> Finder? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your >>>>>> path? >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you >>>>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>>>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Idiot >>> >>> LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". >>> >> >> There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, >> flatfish... > > A lot smarter than you will ever be. > One of your mistakes in your maintenance career was working for Data > General, if you ever worked for them. > >> A long list would follow >> > Which is one you can't seem to make up yet. > LOL!!! > > As an aside, I'm glad the German peoples are doing something about the > refugees. Shame on the hungarian government. The problem is that they're not refugees and they're not looking for safety; they're looking for free cash. Turkey is safe but they refuse to stay there, it's the same with Hungary. They want to go to countries where they know they will get welfare like France, England and Canada. However, these refugees should be in camps and definitely shouldn't be helped, especially when they're caught yelling "Fuck You" to the authorities and chanting "Allahu Akbar!" Besides, this problem was caused by the United States who financed the group which would turn into ISIS (because they wanted to topple the Syrian government) and supported by Turkey (whose prime minister was caught arming the group). If anyone should deal with the consequences of their actions, it's those two. -- A.M
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| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <msmo50$8n3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #319611 |
A.M wrote: > On 2015-09-07 11:37 PM, GreyCloud wrote: >> On 09/06/15 14:07, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> GreyCloud wrote: >>> >>>> On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> dunno wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we >>>>>>>>>>>> can see >>>>>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd >>>>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue >>>>>>>>> Nov >>>>>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>>>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you >>>>>>>> think system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to >>>>>>>> restart Finder? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your >>>>>>> path? >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>>>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like >>>>>> you to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>>>>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Idiot >>>> >>>> LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". >>>> >>> >>> There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, >>> flatfish... >> >> A lot smarter than you will ever be. >> One of your mistakes in your maintenance career was working for Data >> General, if you ever worked for them. >> >>> A long list would follow >>> >> Which is one you can't seem to make up yet. >> LOL!!! >> >> As an aside, I'm glad the German peoples are doing something about the >> refugees. Shame on the hungarian government. > > The problem is that they're not refugees and they're not looking for > safety; they're looking for free cash. Idiot You are a typical racist swine and a nazi
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <7YOdnZSfqI2P1HLInZ2dnUU7-WmdnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #319611 |
On 09/08/15 07:26, A.M wrote: > On 2015-09-07 11:37 PM, GreyCloud wrote: >> On 09/06/15 14:07, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> GreyCloud wrote: >>> >>>> On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>> dunno wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the >>>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we >>>>>>>>>>>> can see >>>>>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd >>>>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue >>>>>>>>> Nov >>>>>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 $ >>>>>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>>>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think >>>>>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart >>>>>>>> Finder? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your >>>>>>> path? >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>>>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you >>>>>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>>>>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Idiot >>>> >>>> LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". >>>> >>> >>> There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, >>> flatfish... >> >> A lot smarter than you will ever be. >> One of your mistakes in your maintenance career was working for Data >> General, if you ever worked for them. >> >>> A long list would follow >>> >> Which is one you can't seem to make up yet. >> LOL!!! >> >> As an aside, I'm glad the German peoples are doing something about the >> refugees. Shame on the hungarian government. > > The problem is that they're not refugees and they're not looking for > safety; they're looking for free cash. Turkey is safe but they refuse to > stay there, it's the same with Hungary. They want to go to countries > where they know they will get welfare like France, England and Canada. > However, these refugees should be in camps and definitely shouldn't be > helped, especially when they're caught yelling "Fuck You" to the > authorities and chanting "Allahu Akbar!" > > Besides, this problem was caused by the United States who financed the > group which would turn into ISIS (because they wanted to topple the > Syrian government) and supported by Turkey (whose prime minister was > caught arming the group). If anyone should deal with the consequences of > their actions, it's those two. > I know that ISIS is U.S. created, but those that are yelling out obscenties to the public are most likely the U.S. planted insurgents doing the yelling. The innocent ones are fleeing away from a war torn country. Russia is now fighting side by side with Syrian forces. Something that Kerry doesn't want to happen. So I believe that WWIII has already started and is going to get much worse. -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <msnt0h$2cv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #319738 |
On 2015-09-08 4:46 PM, GreyCloud wrote: > On 09/08/15 07:26, A.M wrote: >> On 2015-09-07 11:37 PM, GreyCloud wrote: >>> On 09/06/15 14:07, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> GreyCloud wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 09/06/15 05:48, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>>>> dunno wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> owl<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dunno<dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody<nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody"<nobody@invalid.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not lack them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "environment." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> application >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see what will happen? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> same >>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we >>>>>>>>>>>>> can see >>>>>>>>>>>>> what kind of app it is. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd >>>>>>>>>>>> try: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>>>>>>> Finder not found >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>>>>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>>>>>>> $ uname -a >>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue >>>>>>>>>> Nov >>>>>>>>>> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014 >>>>>>>>>> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC >>>>>>>>>> amd64 $ >>>>>>>>>> which Finder $ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then >>>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>>>>>>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's >>>>>>>> help) >>>>>>>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>>>>>>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>>>>>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you >>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>> system gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to >>>>>>>>> restart >>>>>>>>> Finder? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a >>>>>>>> Mack. >>>>>>>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your >>>>>>>> path? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will >>>>>>> cheer you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would >>>>>>> like you >>>>>>> to find out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal >>>>>>> processes. Thanks in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Idiot >>>>> >>>>> LOL!!! We finally found someone actually dumber than "Nobody". >>>>> >>>> >>>> There are lots of those. Snit Glasser and his socks army, you, DFS, >>>> flatfish... >>> >>> A lot smarter than you will ever be. >>> One of your mistakes in your maintenance career was working for Data >>> General, if you ever worked for them. >>> >>>> A long list would follow >>>> >>> Which is one you can't seem to make up yet. >>> LOL!!! >>> >>> As an aside, I'm glad the German peoples are doing something about the >>> refugees. Shame on the hungarian government. >> >> The problem is that they're not refugees and they're not looking for >> safety; they're looking for free cash. Turkey is safe but they refuse to >> stay there, it's the same with Hungary. They want to go to countries >> where they know they will get welfare like France, England and Canada. >> However, these refugees should be in camps and definitely shouldn't be >> helped, especially when they're caught yelling "Fuck You" to the >> authorities and chanting "Allahu Akbar!" >> >> Besides, this problem was caused by the United States who financed the >> group which would turn into ISIS (because they wanted to topple the >> Syrian government) and supported by Turkey (whose prime minister was >> caught arming the group). If anyone should deal with the consequences of >> their actions, it's those two. >> > > I know that ISIS is U.S. created, but those that are yelling out > obscenties to the public are most likely the U.S. planted insurgents > doing the yelling. The innocent ones are fleeing away from a war torn > country. Russia is now fighting side by side with Syrian forces. > Something that Kerry doesn't want to happen. So I believe that WWIII > has already started and is going to get much worse. I believe you're right about World War 3, especially since Russia is involved. However, I'm not convinced that the insurgents were plants. Considering how people on the frontlines are reporting that the migrants are mostly able-bodied young men, and not women and children, I wouldn't let them in no matter what. There is too much of a likelihood that a good percentage of those "innocent migrants" are in actuality ISIS agents. In fact, ISIS has already claimed that their people have infiltrated Europe through the migration. -- A.M
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <16qdnVl1iufR8G3InZ2dnUU7-b2dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #319776 |
On 09/08/15 18:05, A.M wrote: >>> >> >> I know that ISIS is U.S. created, but those that are yelling out >> obscenties to the public are most likely the U.S. planted insurgents >> doing the yelling. The innocent ones are fleeing away from a war torn >> country. Russia is now fighting side by side with Syrian forces. >> Something that Kerry doesn't want to happen. So I believe that WWIII >> has already started and is going to get much worse. > > I believe you're right about World War 3, especially since Russia is > involved. However, I'm not convinced that the insurgents were plants. > Considering how people on the frontlines are reporting that the migrants > are mostly able-bodied young men, and not women and children, I wouldn't > let them in no matter what. There is too much of a likelihood that a > good percentage of those "innocent migrants" are in actuality ISIS > agents. In fact, ISIS has already claimed that their people have > infiltrated Europe through the migration. > > One thing I noticed were the lack of the elderly in this migration. The videos are hand picked by MSM and doesn't show all of the problems. But on RT they have produced hard evidence that most of the insurgents are run by the CIA, which they call the Obama regime. It seems they are chasing out most of the people in the mideast, which begs the question, other than oil, why and what for? It'll remain to be seen, but usually after it is too late. -- When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <adfv.k0zd3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #319290 |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>>>>>> will happen? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>>>>>> kind of app it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>> >>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>> >>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>> >>>>> $ which Finder >>>>> Finder not found >>>> >>>> Mack really returns that? >>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>> $ uname -a >>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>>> $ which Finder >>>> $ >>>> >>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >> >>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >> >> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >> >>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system >>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder? >>> >> >> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? > Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer > you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find > out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks > in advance. Hi Snit! Does Mack come with RTFM? Apparently not! Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius. It restarts it. Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your own operating system. I don't have a Mack. Don't want one. I like my Unix to be Unix.
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| From | dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> |
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| Date | 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <mshad1$dvh$1@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #319295 |
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>>>>>>> will happen? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>>>>>>> kind of app it is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>>> >>>>>> $ which Finder >>>>>> Finder not found >>>>> >>>>> Mack really returns that? >>>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>>> $ uname -a >>>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>>>> $ which Finder >>>>> $ >>>>> >>>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >>> >>>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >>> >>> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >>> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >>> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >>> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >>> >>>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system >>>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder? >>>> >>> >>> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >>> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? > >> Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer >> you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find >> out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks >> in advance. > > Hi Snit! > Does Mack come with RTFM? Apparently not! > Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius. It restarts it. Does owl comes with a brain? Apparently not! Read my first message: "That's why you can't restart Finder without restarting whole GUI." That's what it does when you're restarting Finder. What are you arguing with, again? > Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your > own operating system. I don't have a Mack. Don't want one. I like > my Unix to be Unix. -- dunno
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