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Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder?

From Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder?
Date 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
Organization albasani.net
Message-ID <20150906124316.084bbb7c@maxa-pc> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <am3f03.a3o@rooftop.invalid> <msh305$c6u$1@news.mixmin.net> <fsnmv8e.adsfi@rooftop.invalid> <msh4bv$f1f$1@news.mixmin.net> <asdfmv8.kfida@rooftop.invalid>

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On Sun, 6 Sep 2015 10:40:41 +0000 (UTC)
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote:
> >>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article
> >>>>>>>>> msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> >>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article
> >>>>>>>>>>> mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Finder supposed to convince people to buy a Mac?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did,
> >>>>>>>>>>> that Linux lacks the features being discussed?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an
> >>>>>>>>>> application, not of the OS.  So Mac OS X does not have
> >>>>>>>>>> them, and Linux does not lack them.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments...
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> No you're not.  Finder is an application, not an
> >>>>>>>> "environment."
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application
> >>>>>>> called "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't
> >>>>>>> restart Finder without restarting whole GUI system.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/
> >>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong?
> >>>> 
> >>>> No, but google is.  Take it up with them.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Are you kidding?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Not really.
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine
> >>>>> and see what will happen?
> >>>> 
> >>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same
> >>>> thing will happen as happens when I restart nautilus.
> >> 
> >>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can
> >>> see what kind of app it is.
> >> 
> >> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with
> >> 
> >> $ killall Finder.
> >> 
> >> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: 
> >> 
> >> $ file `which Finder`
> 
> > $ which Finder
> > Finder not found
> 
> Mack really returns that?
> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood.
> $ uname -a
> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov
> 11 21:02:49 UTC 2014
> root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64 $
> which Finder $ 
> 
> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find
> what process is using that name and track it down.
> 

Finder is started as daemon, it can be started/stopped with launchctl.
bmaxa:~ bmaxa$ launchctl list | grep -i finder
267	0	com.apple.Finder
bmaxa:~ bmaxa$ ps ax | grep -i finder
  267   ??  S      0:50.47 /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder

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Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:56 +0000
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0000
        Snit was too droopy to answer... or was it because of his scurvy... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:14 -0500
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:13 -0700
  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:34 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:48 +0000
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 09:57 +0200
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 08:49 +0000
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 08:56 +0000
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:41 +0000
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 11:47 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:55 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 12:06 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:16 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:47 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
                Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
                Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:56 -0700
          He dunno, so I told him... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:32 -0500
            He is nobody, so I told him... dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:40 +0000
              Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0000
                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:07 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:19 +0000
                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:30 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:39 +0200
                Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:49 -0700
                Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:55 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:04 +0000
                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:24 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
                Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:47 +0200
                Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:58 -0500
                Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:50 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:26 -0700
            Snit is arguing with himself Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0500
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:25 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:40 -0500
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 20:41 +0200
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:45 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:04 +0200
  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:21 +0000
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:34 +0000
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:02 -0500
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 08:44 +0000
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:48 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:06 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:49 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:55 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:07 -0700
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:46 +0200
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:50 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-08-30 13:27 +0100
        Like you are as well, eh Dumb Willie? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:36 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0600
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:10 -0700
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 22:47 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 -0700
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 23:23 +0200
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:08 -0600
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 11:14 -0700
  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:12 -0700
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:19 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:30 -0700
  Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:33 +0000
    Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
      Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:08 -0500
        Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
          Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:32 -0500
            Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "Drew P. Bawls" <drewpballs@nowhere2.net> - 2015-08-31 21:40 -0400
              Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:34 -0500
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:32 +0000
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:48 +0200
                Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500

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