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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? |
| Date | 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000 |
| Organization | ok by me, so long as it doesn't get out of hand |
| Message-ID | <adfv.k0zd3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (10 earlier) <msh4bv$f1f$1@news.mixmin.net> <asdfmv8.kfida@rooftop.invalid> <msh5tn$4jf$1@news.mixmin.net> <adf.kfd03@rooftop.invalid> <msh8he$a5j$1@news.mixmin.net> |
dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 06 Sep 2015 00:42:53 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/6/15, 12:34 AM, in article msgqav$qvr$8@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 13:09:09 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8/29/15, 12:27 PM, in article mrt133$b4k$1@news.albasani.net, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Nobody" <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that piddly bullshit "Snit" has posted about the Finder supposed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to convince people to buy a Mac? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. Do you feel pressured when you realize, as Peter did, that Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lacks the features being discussed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The features you're talking about are features of an application, not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the OS. So Mac OS X does not have them, and Linux does not lack >>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am speaking of the environments... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No you're not. Finder is an application, not an "environment." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it's not an app. There is no separate application called >>>>>>>>>>> "Finder", it's part of Cocoa. That's why you can't restart Finder without >>>>>>>>>>> restarting whole GUI system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://osxdaily.com/2012/01/14/restart-the-finder-mac/ >>>>>>>>>> http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/4-ways-to-restart-the-mac-finder >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you trying to prove me wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No, but google is. Take it up with them. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are you kidding? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not really. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Maybe you should restart Finder once yourself on real machine and see what >>>>>>>>> will happen? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Real machines" don't have "Finder," but it sounds like the same thing >>>>>>>> will happen as happens when I restart nautilus. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to point me to Finder application in OS X, so we can see what >>>>>>> kind of app it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dude, that page says that you can kill it in a terminal with >>>>>> >>>>>> $ killall Finder. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have a Mack, but "to see what kind of app is is," I'd try: >>>>>> >>>>>> $ file `which Finder` >>>> >>>>> $ which Finder >>>>> Finder not found >>>> >>>> Mack really returns that? >>>> And here I was thinking that Mack was BSD under the hood. >>>> $ uname -a >>>> FreeBSD helios 10.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE #0 r274401: Tue Nov 11 >>>> 21:02:49 UTC 2014 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 >>>> $ which Finder >>>> $ >>>> >>>> If like they say above it can be killall'd by name Finder, then find >>>> what process is using that name and track it down. >> >>> Of course Finder can be tracked down. >> >> If you have no trouble tracking it down, why were you asking me to >> point you to it? And now that you've found it (with Melzzzz's help) >> you can run file on it "to find out what kind of app it is." >> Who knows, maybe it's a perl script. >> >>> But you'll find it not where OS X >>> keep the apps, but in /System/Library/CoreServices. Why do you think system >>> gets frozen for a little while when you're trying to restart Finder? >>> >> >> Once again, for the attention-deficit among us, I don't have a Mack. >> Does something make it "not an app" just because it's not in your path? > Unfortunately, you also don't have a brain. I can assure you I will cheer > you on the next Special Olympics, but meanwhile I would like you to find > out why GUI can't properly work without certain internal processes. Thanks > in advance. Hi Snit! Does Mack come with RTFM? Apparently not! Killing it doesn't turn it off forever, genius. It restarts it. Why don't you read the links I gave you and learn how to use your own operating system. I don't have a Mack. Don't want one. I like my Unix to be Unix.
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Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:27 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-29 19:56 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0000
Snit was too droopy to answer... or was it because of his scurvy... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:14 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:13 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 07:48 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 09:57 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 08:49 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 08:56 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:41 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 11:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 09:55 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 12:06 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:16 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 09:54 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:02 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:22 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:26 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 10:40 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-09-06 12:43 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 10:52 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:11 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:37 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:07 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-07 21:37 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 09:26 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-08 15:36 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:46 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-09-08 20:05 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-09 11:32 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 11:57 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:09 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:27 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 12:31 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:07 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 16:50 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:44 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:38 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:42 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:51 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-09-06 10:53 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:20 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 07:28 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-08 14:47 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:11 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:33 +0000
Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:40 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:02 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:26 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Tommy Troll <elkabong99@Itroll.org> - 2015-09-06 12:30 -0400
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:10 -0600
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 23:01 +0200
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 01:53 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-08 08:03 -0500
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-08 15:08 +0000
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:39 -0700
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-08 08:25 -0700
Re: Snit goes from talking about Finder to talking queer-- again! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:43 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 13:45 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 11:50 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-06 12:02 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-06 14:04 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:05 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:20 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:37 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:56 -0700
He dunno, so I told him... Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:32 -0500
He is nobody, so I told him... dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:40 +0000
Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 09:46 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:07 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:19 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:30 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:39 +0200
Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:49 -0700
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:55 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 16:04 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 11:24 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! dunno <dunno@dunno.dunno> - 2015-09-06 15:46 +0000
Re: Hi Snit! Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 17:47 +0200
Re: Hi Snit! Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:58 -0500
Re: Hi Snit! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:26 -0700
Snit is arguing with himself Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:34 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-06 10:25 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 12:40 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 20:41 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:45 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 22:04 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 20:21 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 13:31 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:34 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:02 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 08:44 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:06 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 20:49 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:55 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:07 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-30 20:46 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-08-30 13:27 +0100
Like you are as well, eh Dumb Willie? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 13:05 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 12:08 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:36 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:53 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:10 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 22:47 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 13:50 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-08-31 23:23 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 12:08 -0600
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 11:14 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:12 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:19 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:30 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 00:33 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:44 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:08 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 11:09 -0700
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-31 20:32 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? "Drew P. Bawls" <drewpballs@nowhere2.net> - 2015-08-31 21:40 -0400
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 08:34 -0500
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 19:32 +0000
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-06 21:48 +0200
Re: Who gives a shit about the Finder? Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 18:03 -0500
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