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  Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 06:09 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:01 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 07:32 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 12:51 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 08:01 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-18 14:06 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:07 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 10:34 +0000
                  Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0500
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 10:42 -0500
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:02 -0700
                      Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:08 +0100
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 09:19 -0700
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-19 17:55 +0100
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:39 +0100
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:20 -0500
                            Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-19 12:38 -0600
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 14:43 -0500
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:46 +0100
                                Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:52 -0700
                                  Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:01 +0100
                                    Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 17:06 -0700
                                      Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 01:15 +0100
                                        Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 18:57 -0700
                                        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:13 -0500
                                Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 06:48 -0600
                                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 14:05 -0600
                                  Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 13:53 -0700
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0000
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 12:04 -0500
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-19 16:37 +0000
                      Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 08:54 -0800
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 13:18 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 12:06 -0700
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 09:22 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:52 +0100
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 08:41 -0700
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:19 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:09 -0700
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 17:14 +0100
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 09:33 -0700
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:46 -0800
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:22 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 08:42 -0800
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-20 17:24 +0000
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-20 10:34 -0700
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-20 11:31 -0800
                                Re: Advantage, Linux Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-23 09:30 +0000
            My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-18 14:19 -0800
              Re: My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:10 -0500
                99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 05:46 -0800
                  Re: 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 08:54 -0500
                    Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 06:38 -0800
                      Re: Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:04 -0500
                        I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 07:35 -0800
                          Re: I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-22 10:44 -0500
                            How many wives/kids do you have ? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-22 15:29 -0800
                              Re: How many wives/kids do you have ? benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-23 03:15 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:43 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:48 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:04 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:10 -0500
            Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:22 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:23 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 14:04 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-22 17:04 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:18 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:47 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 13:56 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:13 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 15:56 -0500
                  Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:14 +0000
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 19:03 -0500
                      Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 00:59 +0000
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:51 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:32 +0000
                Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:20 -0500
                Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 17:26 -0500
                  Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:50 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 14:06 -0600
                Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-18 16:04 -0500
                  Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:02 +0100
                  Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:12 -0600
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:17 -0500
                      Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:38 +0100
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Justin <justin@nobecauseihatespam.edu> - 2015-11-19 09:50 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 10:26 -0600
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 18:10 +0100
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:41 -0500
                                Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-19 15:15 -0600
                                Re: Advantage, Linux owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 22:54 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:51 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-18 20:52 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:38 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 14:44 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:54 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:16 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:23 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 13:07 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 13:22 -0500
      Re: Advantage, Linux Marti van Lin <ml2mst@dontevenbother.invalid> - 2015-11-19 18:54 +0100
        Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-19 15:47 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 18:01 -0500
    Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-18 15:15 +0000
      Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:27 +0100
        Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 10:41 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:45 +0100
            Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:51 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-18 15:48 -0500
              Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-18 23:01 +0100
                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:18 +0000
                  Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-19 15:37 +0100
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-19 08:47 -0600
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:40 -0800
                    Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 22:59 +0000
                      Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 00:43 +0100
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 10:05 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-20 11:50 +0100
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:09 +0000
                            Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-20 09:30 -0500
                            Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-20 13:58 -0600
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-20 15:41 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:49 +0000
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:31 +0000
                              Re: Advantage, Linux vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-21 22:17 +0000
                                Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-22 09:07 +0000
                      Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:09 -0500
                        Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 13:32 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-20 07:43 -0600
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:58 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 08:57 -0500
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-20 08:15 -0600
                              Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-20 12:51 -0500
                          Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-20 14:01 +0000
                          Re: Advantage, Linux ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-21 02:48 +0000
                            Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-21 09:30 +0000
              Re: Advantage, Linux JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-18 19:11 -0600
              Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 14:19 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:50 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 11:25 -0500
          Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:21 +0000
            Re: Advantage, Linux Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-19 08:18 -0500
        Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:49 +0000
          Re: Advantage, Linux Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-18 16:51 +0100
            Re: Advantage, Linux Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 15:53 +0000
        Re: Advantage, Linux Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:19 +0000
    Re: Advantage, Linux DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-18 12:49 -0500

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#333853

Snit wrote:

> On 11/20/15, 2:22 AM, in article n2mokn$ma8$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
>>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
>>>> 
>>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
>>> 
>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>> 
>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So
>>> is my third party mouse driver... and some other software one would
>>> think would have been updated." - Snit
>>> 
>>> 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8
>>> /GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>> 
>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>> 
>> 
>> I was talking about Windows, Snit was talking about OS X.
>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
> 
> I also noted Windows versions come in the two flavors and OS X ones do
> not.
> 
> Peter left that out for some reason.
> 

Because that is irrelevant. The claim "All the Office apps are available in 
64bit" is obviously bullshit

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#333857

On 11/20/15, 9:14 AM, in article n2ngp5$g72$1@dont-email.me, "Peter
Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

>>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>>> 
>>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So
>>>> is my third party mouse driver... and some other software one would
>>>> think would have been updated." - Snit
>>>> 
>>>> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8
>>>> /GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>>> 
>>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was talking about Windows, Snit was talking about OS X.
>>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
>> 
>> I also noted Windows versions come in the two flavors and OS X ones do
>> not.
>> 
>> Peter left that out for some reason.
>> 
> 
> Because that is irrelevant. The claim "All the Office apps are available in
> 64bit" is obviously bullshit

Well, the original MS Word for Windows is not available at all... so clearly
if your criteria is ALL it will never be true. Just like not all versions of
Linux are.

But if you can follow context and understand it is about modern Windows
versions I am fairly certain it is true.

Surprisingly it is NOT true of OS X versions, at least from my quick look.
Cannot find any way it really hurts anything, but still seems odd.


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#333863

On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 9:14:43 AM UTC-7, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Snit wrote:
> 
> > On 11/20/15, 2:22 AM, in article n2mokn$ma8$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
> > "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:
> > 
> >>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
> >>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
> >>>> 
> >>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
> >>> 
> >>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
> >>> 
> >>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So
> >>> is my third party mouse driver... and some other software one would
> >>> think would have been updated." - Snit
> >>> 
> >>> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8
> >>> /GqD3YMgbAQAJ
> >>> 
> >>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> I was talking about Windows, Snit was talking about OS X.
> >> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
> > 
> > I also noted Windows versions come in the two flavors and OS X ones do
> > not.
> > 
> > Peter left that out for some reason.
> > 
> 
> Because that is irrelevant. The claim "All the Office apps are available in 
> 64bit" is obviously bullshit

You're proabably confusing Snit with someone who can comprehend what they've read ;)

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#333869

On 20/11/2015 16:14, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
> Snit wrote:
>
>> On 11/20/15, 2:22 AM, in article n2mokn$ma8$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
>>>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
>>>>
>>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>>>
>>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So
>>>> is my third party mouse driver... and some other software one would
>>>> think would have been updated." - Snit
>>>>
>>>>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8
>>>> /GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>>>
>>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was talking about Windows, Snit was talking about OS X.
>>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
>>
>> I also noted Windows versions come in the two flavors and OS X ones do
>> not.
>>
>> Peter left that out for some reason.
>>
>
> Because that is irrelevant. The claim "All the Office apps are available in
> 64bit" is obviously bullshit
>

Which partiular app or apps within the current Windows Microsoft Office 
suite do you believe is not available in a 64bit version?

You might want to bend over right now so you are ready for me to kick 
your arse again.

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#333861

On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 19/11/2015 16:54, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:37:45 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> >> On 19/11/2015 14:19, Justin wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:34:22 +0000
> >>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 18/11/2015 21:07, Justin wrote:
> >>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:44 +0000
> >>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 18/11/2015 13:01, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:n2hs4r$36o$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of
> >>>>>>>>>>> updates (this
> >>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
> >>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have
> >>>>>>>>> to <laugh>
> >>>>>>>>> and <giggle> all the time?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>        I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast
> >>>>>>>>> about the USB
> >>>>>>>>>        port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle*
> >>>>>>>>> <laughing> hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>"
> >>>>>>>>> that's "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop
> >>>>>>>>> computer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine
> >>>>>>>>>> doing updates?
> >>>>>>>>>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work
> >>>>>>>>> on many 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian
> >>>>>>>>> update to a small number
> >>>>>>>>> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks
> >>>>>>>>> something then it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific
> >>>>>>>>> update. With aptitude, not exactly easy to do.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one
> >>>>>>>>> machine doesn't
> >>>>>>>>> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a
> >>>>>>>>> need to undo
> >>>>>>>>> an update.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This
> >>>>>>>>> multi-tasking thing actually works making it a moot point. I do
> >>>>>>>>> think that Windows updates
> >>>>>>>>> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if
> >>>>>>>> they switch off their machines our management system can send a
> >>>>>>>> WOL, install the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero
> >>>>>>>> disruption to the working day, maximum availability and
> >>>>>>>> productivity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can
> >>>>>>> manually send a WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in
> >>>>>>> to kick-off an update. I don't think that update-time is keeping
> >>>>>>> many IT managers up at night.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Indeed not, we all sleep well. We don't roll them out at the same
> >>>>>> time either, clients are grouped to get updates on different days.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You also sleep alone!  There's a reason for that.
> >>>>> ha ha ha ha!
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Nice example of a Linux loser there. You can't offer any way that
> >>>> Linux beats or matches Windows in this area so you just launch a
> >>>> personal attack. Pathetic.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
> >>> fundamentally flawed OS.
> >>
> >> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
> >
> > But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
> >
> > "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So is my
> > third party mouse driver... and some other software one would think would
> > have been updated." - Snit
> >
> > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8/GqD3YMgbAQAJ
> >
> > Seems one of you must be "wrong".
> >
> 
> I was talking about Windows,

You might have been 'thinking' about Windows but you certainly weren't 'talking' about it when you said  "All the Office apps...".

> Snit was talking about OS X.

Yes, and it's obvious I made that clear already. 

> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.

Said the guy who confuses what he 'thinks' about with what he 'talks' about. You must be real fun at parties. 

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#333870

On 20/11/2015 16:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 19/11/2015 16:54, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:37:45 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> On 19/11/2015 14:19, Justin wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:34:22 +0000
>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 21:07, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:44 +0000
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 13:01, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:n2hs4r$36o$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates (this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have
>>>>>>>>>>> to <laugh>
>>>>>>>>>>> and <giggle> all the time?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>         I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast
>>>>>>>>>>> about the USB
>>>>>>>>>>>         port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle*
>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>"
>>>>>>>>>>> that's "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing updates?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work
>>>>>>>>>>> on many 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian
>>>>>>>>>>> update to a small number
>>>>>>>>>>> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks
>>>>>>>>>>> something then it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific
>>>>>>>>>>> update. With aptitude, not exactly easy to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one
>>>>>>>>>>> machine doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a
>>>>>>>>>>> need to undo
>>>>>>>>>>> an update.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This
>>>>>>>>>>> multi-tasking thing actually works making it a moot point. I do
>>>>>>>>>>> think that Windows updates
>>>>>>>>>>> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if
>>>>>>>>>> they switch off their machines our management system can send a
>>>>>>>>>> WOL, install the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero
>>>>>>>>>> disruption to the working day, maximum availability and
>>>>>>>>>> productivity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can
>>>>>>>>> manually send a WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in
>>>>>>>>> to kick-off an update. I don't think that update-time is keeping
>>>>>>>>> many IT managers up at night.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed not, we all sleep well. We don't roll them out at the same
>>>>>>>> time either, clients are grouped to get updates on different days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You also sleep alone!  There's a reason for that.
>>>>>>> ha ha ha ha!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nice example of a Linux loser there. You can't offer any way that
>>>>>> Linux beats or matches Windows in this area so you just launch a
>>>>>> personal attack. Pathetic.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
>>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
>>>>
>>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
>>>
>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>>
>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So is my
>>> third party mouse driver... and some other software one would think would
>>> have been updated." - Snit
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8/GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>>
>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>>
>>
>> I was talking about Windows,
>
> You might have been 'thinking' about Windows but you certainly weren't 'talking' about it when you said  "All the Office apps...".
>
>> Snit was talking about OS X.
>
> Yes, and it's obvious I made that clear already.
>
>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
>
> Said the guy who confuses what he 'thinks' about with what he 'talks' about. You must be real fun at parties.
>

Just because you are struggling to comprehend within context and follow 
a plain English message, there is no need to get quite so hot under the 
collar.

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#333875

On 11/20/15, 10:24 AM, in article n2nkrd$v2a$4@deskrabbit.motzarella.org,
"Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote:

> On 20/11/2015 16:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>> On 19/11/2015 16:54, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:37:45 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>> On 19/11/2015 14:19, Justin wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:34:22 +0000
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 21:07, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:44 +0000
>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 13:01, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hs4r$36o$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of
>>>>>>>>>>>> updates (this
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have
>>>>>>>>>>>> to <laugh>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and <giggle> all the time?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>         I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast
>>>>>>>>>>>> about the USB
>>>>>>>>>>>>         port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle*
>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>"
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine
>>>>>>>>>>>> doing updates?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work
>>>>>>>>>>>> on many 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian
>>>>>>>>>>>> update to a small number
>>>>>>>>>>>> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks
>>>>>>>>>>>> something then it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific
>>>>>>>>>>>> update. With aptitude, not exactly easy to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one
>>>>>>>>>>>> machine doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a
>>>>>>>>>>>> need to undo
>>>>>>>>>>>> an update.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This
>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-tasking thing actually works making it a moot point. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>> think that Windows updates
>>>>>>>>>>>> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if
>>>>>>>>>>> they switch off their machines our management system can send a
>>>>>>>>>>> WOL, install the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero
>>>>>>>>>>> disruption to the working day, maximum availability and
>>>>>>>>>>> productivity.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can
>>>>>>>>>> manually send a WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in
>>>>>>>>>> to kick-off an update. I don't think that update-time is keeping
>>>>>>>>>> many IT managers up at night.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Indeed not, we all sleep well. We don't roll them out at the same
>>>>>>>>> time either, clients are grouped to get updates on different days.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You also sleep alone!  There's a reason for that.
>>>>>>>> ha ha ha ha!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Nice example of a Linux loser there. You can't offer any way that
>>>>>>> Linux beats or matches Windows in this area so you just launch a
>>>>>>> personal attack. Pathetic.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
>>>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
>>>>> 
>>>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
>>>> 
>>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>>> 
>>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So is
>>>> my
>>>> third party mouse driver... and some other software one would think would
>>>> have been updated." - Snit
>>>> 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3
>>>> x8/GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>>> 
>>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was talking about Windows,
>> 
>> You might have been 'thinking' about Windows but you certainly weren't
>> 'talking' about it when you said  "All the Office apps...".
>> 
>>> Snit was talking about OS X.
>> 
>> Yes, and it's obvious I made that clear already.
>> 
>>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
>> 
>> Said the guy who confuses what he 'thinks' about with what he 'talks' about.
>> You must be real fun at parties.
>> 
> 
> Just because you are struggling to comprehend within context and follow
> a plain English message, there is no need to get quite so hot under the
> collar.

I commented on the topic... hence he cannot help it.

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#333885

On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 10:24:12 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 20/11/2015 16:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> >> On 19/11/2015 16:54, Steve Carroll wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:37:45 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
> >>>> On 19/11/2015 14:19, Justin wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:34:22 +0000
> >>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 18/11/2015 21:07, Justin wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:44 +0000
> >>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 13:01, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>> news:n2hs4r$36o$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> updates (this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> Windows.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have
> >>>>>>>>>>> to <laugh>
> >>>>>>>>>>> and <giggle> all the time?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>         I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast
> >>>>>>>>>>> about the USB
> >>>>>>>>>>>         port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle*
> >>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>"
> >>>>>>>>>>> that's "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop
> >>>>>>>>>>> computer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doing updates?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work
> >>>>>>>>>>> on many 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian
> >>>>>>>>>>> update to a small number
> >>>>>>>>>>> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks
> >>>>>>>>>>> something then it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific
> >>>>>>>>>>> update. With aptitude, not exactly easy to do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one
> >>>>>>>>>>> machine doesn't
> >>>>>>>>>>> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a
> >>>>>>>>>>> need to undo
> >>>>>>>>>>> an update.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This
> >>>>>>>>>>> multi-tasking thing actually works making it a moot point. I do
> >>>>>>>>>>> think that Windows updates
> >>>>>>>>>>> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if
> >>>>>>>>>> they switch off their machines our management system can send a
> >>>>>>>>>> WOL, install the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero
> >>>>>>>>>> disruption to the working day, maximum availability and
> >>>>>>>>>> productivity.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can
> >>>>>>>>> manually send a WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in
> >>>>>>>>> to kick-off an update. I don't think that update-time is keeping
> >>>>>>>>> many IT managers up at night.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Indeed not, we all sleep well. We don't roll them out at the same
> >>>>>>>> time either, clients are grouped to get updates on different days.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You also sleep alone!  There's a reason for that.
> >>>>>>> ha ha ha ha!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nice example of a Linux loser there. You can't offer any way that
> >>>>>> Linux beats or matches Windows in this area so you just launch a
> >>>>>> personal attack. Pathetic.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
> >>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
> >>>>
> >>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
> >>>
> >>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
> >>>
> >>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So is my
> >>> third party mouse driver... and some other software one would think would
> >>> have been updated." - Snit
> >>>
> >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8/GqD3YMgbAQAJ
> >>>
> >>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
> >>>
> >>
> >> I was talking about Windows,
> >
> > You might have been 'thinking' about Windows but you certainly weren't 'talking' about it when you said  "All the Office apps...".
> >
> >> Snit was talking about OS X.
> >
> > Yes, and it's obvious I made that clear already.
> >
> >> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
> >
> > Said the guy who confuses what he 'thinks' about with what he 'talks' about. You must be real fun at parties.
> >
> 
> Just because you are struggling to comprehend within context 

Justin was talking about OS X and, as even you pointed out, Snit dragged OS X into this portion of the conversation (and notably did so *before* you made your statement).

So the context of your statement could have "All the Office apps" for both Win and OS X. Being that you didn't clarify, I used the broader meaning. Instead of recognizing your omission and owning up to it, now you're blaming me for not having read your mind. Let's see... who else does stuff like this? I just know it'll come to me...

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#334137

On 20/11/2015 19:31, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 10:24:12 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 20/11/2015 16:42, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>> On Friday, November 20, 2015 at 2:22:47 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>> On 19/11/2015 16:54, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 9:37:45 AM UTC-7, Desk Rabbit wrote:
>>>>>> On 19/11/2015 14:19, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:34:22 +0000
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 21:07, Justin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 14:06:44 +0000
>>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 13:01, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hs4r$36o$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 12:32, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updates (this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> Windows.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to <laugh>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and <giggle> all the time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about the USB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>          port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <laughing> hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't get any weirder than this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing updates?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on many 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian
>>>>>>>>>>>>> update to a small number
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something then it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific
>>>>>>>>>>>>> update. With aptitude, not exactly easy to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to undo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> an update.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-tasking thing actually works making it a moot point. I do
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that Windows updates
>>>>>>>>>>>>> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if
>>>>>>>>>>>> they switch off their machines our management system can send a
>>>>>>>>>>>> WOL, install the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero
>>>>>>>>>>>> disruption to the working day, maximum availability and
>>>>>>>>>>>> productivity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can
>>>>>>>>>>> manually send a WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in
>>>>>>>>>>> to kick-off an update. I don't think that update-time is keeping
>>>>>>>>>>> many IT managers up at night.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Indeed not, we all sleep well. We don't roll them out at the same
>>>>>>>>>> time either, clients are grouped to get updates on different days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You also sleep alone!  There's a reason for that.
>>>>>>>>> ha ha ha ha!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nice example of a Linux loser there. You can't offer any way that
>>>>>>>> Linux beats or matches Windows in this area so you just launch a
>>>>>>>> personal attack. Pathetic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's why I use a Mac and you're stuck running 32 bit software on a
>>>>>>> fundamentally flawed OS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the Office apps are available in 64bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the 'IT Master' just said they were only 32 bit on the Mac:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Just checked and even the NEWEST MS Word is 32-bit (on OS X). Why? So is my
>>>>> third party mouse driver... and some other software one would think would
>>>>> have been updated." - Snit
>>>>>
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/sCNDqZwd3x8/GqD3YMgbAQAJ
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems one of you must be "wrong".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was talking about Windows,
>>>
>>> You might have been 'thinking' about Windows but you certainly weren't 'talking' about it when you said  "All the Office apps...".
>>>
>>>> Snit was talking about OS X.
>>>
>>> Yes, and it's obvious I made that clear already.
>>>
>>>> Your obsession with him is really clouding your mind buddy.
>>>
>>> Said the guy who confuses what he 'thinks' about with what he 'talks' about. You must be real fun at parties.
>>>
>>
>> Just because you are struggling to comprehend within context
>
> Justin was talking about OS X and, as even you pointed out, Snit dragged OS X into this portion of the conversation (and notably did so *before* you made your statement).
>
> So the context of your statement could have "All the Office apps" for both Win and OS X. Being that you didn't clarify, I used the broader meaning. Instead of recognizing your omission and owning up to it, now you're blaming me for not having read your mind. Let's see... who else does stuff like this? I just know it'll come to me...
>

Be careful with that obsession of yours, you'll be swearing that you saw 
Snit in the chip shop next.

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#333607 — My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.

Ezekiel wrote:  ＜＜

  The nonsense you get when "advocates" make up their own "facts.": ＜＜＜

    [[ Copyright violations are not "theft" ]]
    Another sloppy use of language. 
    Fact is in order to "steal" something not only do you gain access to it 
    illegally, you deprive the original owner of their ownership  ＞＞＞
    -- Phil_Da_Lick!, 3 Years ago , 
      u5adneKxjevjjYDMnZ2dnUVZ8iednZ2d@brightview.co.uk   ＞＞

Phil_Da_Lick is right, 
Copying a file, instead of driving to the library,
wasting gas, is not the same thing as stealing from a tip jar.

Would you report every file I copy to Walt Disney,
"The happiest place on earth", so they could sue me ? !

  Capitalism is freedom to do good _or_ bad.

  Socialism is important because society is important.
  What are we, if not social beings, part of a group ? !

    Most often, money can't buy you health;
    not mental health, not physical health.

    What else matters ? !

"Desk Rabbit" and Ezekiel wrote:
> > We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if they 
> > switch off their machines our management system can send a WOL, install 
> > the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero disruption to the working 
> > day, maximum availability and productivity.
> 
> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can manually send a 
> WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in to kick-off an update. I 
> don't think that update-time is keeping many IT managers up at night.

I update my copy of Windows 8 _once_a_year_, roughly.

Last time, it stalled for _hours_.
I had to reboot, modify shit (see below),
then re-run Windows Update, etc.

My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.

I had to manually re-rename the "C:\\__\\My Documents" folder
to "C:\\__\\Sys", modify the registry (as follows), 
and reboot a few times.

  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\VisualStudio\14.0]
    "MyDocumentsLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys"
    "VisualStudioLocation"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\VisStudio"

  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders]
    "Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
    "SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
    "AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
    "Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
    "Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
    "Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
    "Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
    "Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
    "PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
    "NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
    "Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
    "Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
    "Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
    "Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
    "History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
    "Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
    "Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
    "{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
    "{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Downloads"

  [-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
  [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders]
    "Startup"="C:\\__\\Startup"
    "SendTo"="C:\\__\\SendTo"
    "AppData"="c:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
    "Local AppData"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData"
    "Local Settings"="C:\\__\\Sys"
    "Local AppDataLow"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
    "Cache"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\IE-Tmp"
    "Desktop"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Desktop"
    "PrintHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\PrintHood"
    "NetHood"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\NetHood"
    "Cookies"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Cookies"
    "Recent"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Recent"
    "Start Menu"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Start Menu"
    "Programs"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Programs"
    "History"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\History"
    "Templates"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\Templates"
    "Favorites"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Pictures"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Music"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "My Video"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\-Crap-"
    "Personal"="C:\\__\\Sys"
    "{A520A1A4-1780-4FF6-BD18-167343C5AF16}"="C:\\__\\Sys\\AppData\\LocalLow"
    "{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}"="c:\\__\\Downloads"

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#334077 — Re: My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.18{2.19P.Seattle.2015}...
> Ezekiel wrote:  <<
>
>  The nonsense you get when "advocates" make up their own "facts.": <<<
>
>    [[ Copyright violations are not "theft" ]]
>    Another sloppy use of language.
>    Fact is in order to "steal" something not only do you gain access to it
>    illegally, you deprive the original owner of their ownership  >>>
>    -- Phil_Da_Lick!, 3 Years ago ,
>      u5adneKxjevjjYDMnZ2dnUVZ8iednZ2d@brightview.co.uk   >>
>
> Phil_Da_Lick is right,

Not based on what he said. Stuff like credit-card information, identity, etc 
is stolen all the time without depriving the original ower.

> Copying a file, instead of driving to the library,
> wasting gas, is not the same thing as stealing from a tip jar.

When you start claiming that you're pirating something in order to not waste 
gas then you've pretty much lost the argument.

> Would you report every file I copy to Walt Disney,
> "The happiest place on earth", so they could sue me ? !

Don't worry... I've never reported anyone so you won't be the first.

>  Capitalism is freedom to do good _or_ bad.
>
>  Socialism is important because society is important.
>  What are we, if not social beings, part of a group ? !
>
>    Most often, money can't buy you health;
>    not mental health, not physical health.

"Most often" - money can't gurantee health but it will improve your odds.

>    What else matters ? !

Happiness matters.


> "Desk Rabbit" and Ezekiel wrote:
>> > We roll out Windows updates overnight to our customers. Even if they
>> > switch off their machines our management system can send a WOL, install
>> > the updates and then shut down the machine. Zero disruption to the 
>> > working
>> > day, maximum availability and productivity.
>>
>> That's a really good way of doing it. From my laptop I can manually send 
>> a
>> WOL to the desktop in my office and then RDP in to kick-off an update. I
>> don't think that update-time is keeping many IT managers up at night.
>
> I update my copy of Windows 8 _once_a_year_, roughly.
>
> Last time, it stalled for _hours_.
> I had to reboot, modify shit (see below),
> then re-run Windows Update, etc.
>
> My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.
>
> I had to manually re-rename the "C:\\__\\My Documents" folder
> to "C:\\__\\Sys", modify the registry (as follows),
> and reboot a few times.
>

Sounds like a lot of work Why didn't you just put a symlink from \\My 
Documents to where you want the data stored. Or use "folder redirection" 
which will do this for you.

-- 
"No one uses msoffice for legal documents"

JED - as ignorant as ever.
<slrnn3kpj9.dek.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Nov 4, 2015

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#334082 — 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought.

You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
> > My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.
> >
> > I had to manually re-rename the "C:\\__\\My Documents" folder
> > to "C:\\__\\Sys", modify the registry (as follows),
> > and reboot a few times.
> 
> Sounds like a lot of work Why didn't you just put 
> a symlink from \\My Documents to where you want the data stored. 
> Or use "folder redirection" which will do this for you.

I shouldn't have to do _anything_ at all;
Windows Update shouldn't be reRenaming my system folders,
nor should it hang for hours, forcing kills/reboots.

It wasn't too bad, really, because all my setting are in
this .REG file: "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win_8_.REG.TXT".

> >    Most often, money can't buy you health;
> >    not mental health, not physical health.
> 
> "Most often" - money can't gurantee health but it will improve your odds.
> 
> >    What else matters ? !
> 
> Happiness matters.

Too happy is bad, "manic".
You want a balance: mental health.

99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought;
however, in courts and hopitals, money helps.

> >  ＜＜
> >    [[ Copyright violations are not "theft" ]]
> >    Another sloppy use of language.
> >    Fact is in order to "steal" something not only do you gain access to it
> >    illegally, you deprive the original owner of their ownership  >>>
> >    -- Phil_Da_Lick!, 3 Years ago ,
> >      u5adneKxjevjjYDMnZ2dnUVZ8iednZ2d@brightview.co.uk   >>
> >
> > Phil_Da_Lick is right,
> 
> Not based on what he said. Stuff like credit-card information, 
> identity, etc is stolen all the time 
> without depriving the original ower.

That's fraud and _real_ theft, not "illegal copying".

Unless you use the correct terms, 
no one, including me, can take you seriously.

> > Copying a file, instead of driving to the library,
> > wasting gas, is not the same thing as stealing from a tip jar.
> 
> When you start claiming that you're pirating something in order 
> to not waste gas then you've pretty much lost the argument.

Would you jail librarians, 
take their money, and give it to Walt Disney ?

Is this what Walt wanted ?

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#334084 — Re: 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22{5.46A.Seattle.2015}...
> You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
>> > My home folder is "C:\\__", but I don't let Windows know that.
>> >
>> > I had to manually re-rename the "C:\\__\\My Documents" folder
>> > to "C:\\__\\Sys", modify the registry (as follows),
>> > and reboot a few times.
>>
>> Sounds like a lot of work Why didn't you just put
>> a symlink from \\My Documents to where you want the data stored.
>> Or use "folder redirection" which will do this for you.
>
> I shouldn't have to do _anything_ at all;
> Windows Update shouldn't be reRenaming my system folders,
> nor should it hang for hours, forcing kills/reboots.
>

Why are you renaming system folders - what problem are you trying to solve?

I have "My Documents" mapped to a network drive so that what's effectively 
the /home folder on Windows is the same across all my machines. I use folder 
redirection to do this and it's simple without having to muck with anything.


> It wasn't too bad, really, because all my setting are in
> this .REG file: "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win_8_.REG.TXT".
>
>> >    Most often, money can't buy you health;
>> >    not mental health, not physical health.
>>
>> "Most often" - money can't gurantee health but it will improve your odds.
>>
>> >    What else matters ? !
>>
>> Happiness matters.
>
> Too happy is bad, "manic".
> You want a balance: mental health.
>
> 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought;
> however, in courts and hopitals, money helps.

Stress is very bad for you. It's a killer both phyically and not good for 
your mental health. The #1 cause of stress is money.


>> >  <<
>> >    [[ Copyright violations are not "theft" ]]
>> >    Another sloppy use of language.
>> >    Fact is in order to "steal" something not only do you gain access to 
>> > it
>> >    illegally, you deprive the original owner of their ownership  >>>
>> >    -- Phil_Da_Lick!, 3 Years ago ,
>> >      u5adneKxjevjjYDMnZ2dnUVZ8iednZ2d@brightview.co.uk   >>
>> >
>> > Phil_Da_Lick is right,
>>
>> Not based on what he said. Stuff like credit-card information,
>> identity, etc is stolen all the time
>> without depriving the original ower.
>
> That's fraud and _real_ theft, not "illegal copying".
>
> Unless you use the correct terms,
> no one, including me, can take you seriously.

I didn't say anything about illegal copying. I'm simply talking about his 
nonsense that theft can't occur unless the original owner is deprived of 
their ownership. Credit card, SSN numbers, etc prove that he's full of it.


>> > Copying a file, instead of driving to the library,
>> > wasting gas, is not the same thing as stealing from a tip jar.
>>
>> When you start claiming that you're pirating something in order
>> to not waste gas then you've pretty much lost the argument.
>
> Would you jail librarians,
> take their money, and give it to Walt Disney ?
Walt Disney is dead. Money isn't of any use to him.

> Is this what Walt wanted ?
I'm not the one who write the laws.

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#334092 — Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money.

You (Ezekiel) asked me:
> Why are you renaming system folders 
> - what problem are you trying to solve?

I don't want Windows to know that "C:\__" is my home folder;
if it knew, it'd add subFolders to it, and crap like that.

Instead, I ReName "My Documents" to "Sys", under "C:\__";
so "Sys" is easy to see/search (it has important subFolders).

> > Too happy is bad, "manic".
> > You want a balance: mental health.
> >
> > 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought;
> > however, in courts and hopitals, money helps.
> 
> Stress is very bad for you. It's a killer both phyically 
> and not good for your mental health. 
> The #1 cause of stress is money.

Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over it (money).

> > That's fraud and _real_ theft, not "illegal copying".
> >
> > Unless you use the correct terms,
> > no one, including me, can take you seriously.
> 
> I didn't say anything about illegal copying. I'm simply talking about his 
> nonsense that theft can't occur unless the original owner is deprived of 
> their ownership. Credit card, SSN numbers, etc prove that he's full of it.

If, somehow, I managed to use your credit card,
I'd be taking money from you (and/or the bank);
this is properly called "theft" and "fraud", not "illegal copying".

You're hardly the first person to confuse these terms;
it's a common mistake.

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#334095 — Re: Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over money.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22{6.38A.Seattle.2015}...
> You (Ezekiel) asked me:
>> Why are you renaming system folders
>> - what problem are you trying to solve?
>
> I don't want Windows to know that "C:\__" is my home folder;
> if it knew, it'd add subFolders to it, and crap like that.
>
> Instead, I ReName "My Documents" to "Sys", under "C:\__";
> so "Sys" is easy to see/search (it has important subFolders).
>

Different installers are going to put these directories somewhere. Hiding 
them and confusing things seems like it would cause problems. Wouldn't it 
just be easier to delete the folders if they're created?


>> > Too happy is bad, "manic".
>> > You want a balance: mental health.
>> >
>> > 99.99% of the time, mental health can't be bought;
>> > however, in courts and hopitals, money helps.
>>
>> Stress is very bad for you. It's a killer both phyically
>> and not good for your mental health.
>> The #1 cause of stress is money.
>
> Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over it (money).

Certainly true for "some" - I know a few of these "some" people. Nothing 
wrong with that.

    "The biggest cause of stress in America today" - Feb 2015
     Money continues to be the leading cause of
    stress for Americans, a new survey finds.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-biggest-cause-of-stress-in-america-today/



>> > That's fraud and _real_ theft, not "illegal copying".
>> >
>> > Unless you use the correct terms,
>> > no one, including me, can take you seriously.
>>
>> I didn't say anything about illegal copying. I'm simply talking about his
>> nonsense that theft can't occur unless the original owner is deprived of
>> their ownership. Credit card, SSN numbers, etc prove that he's full of 
>> it.
>
> If, somehow, I managed to use your credit card,
> I'd be taking money from you (and/or the bank);
> this is properly called "theft" and "fraud", not "illegal copying".
>
> You're hardly the first person to confuse these terms;
> it's a common mistake.

I'm not confused. Music/video piracy is copyright infringement. That's not 
the point.

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#334098 — I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.

You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
> > I don't want Windows to know that "C:\__" is my home folder;
> > if it knew, it'd add subFolders to it, and crap like that.
> >
> > Instead, I ReName "My Documents" to "Sys", under "C:\__";
> > so "Sys" is easy to see/search (it has important subFolders).
> 
> Different installers are going to put these directories somewhere. 
> Hiding them and confusing things seems like it would cause problems.
> Wouldn't it just be easier to delete the folders if they're created?

No, you can't just delete them, Windows reCreates them.

For me, on my system, everything installs correctly;
installers use logical paths, like %LocalAppData%.

When I put %LocalAppData% in Explorer's address bar,
"C:\__\Sys\AppData" shows up.

My Desktop is "C:\__\Sys\AppData\Desktop";
it's empty/blank, I don't use it.

> > Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over it (money).
> 
> Certainly true for "some" - I know a few of these "some" people. 
> Nothing wrong with that.
> 
>    "The biggest cause of stress in America today" - Feb 2015
>    Money continues to be the leading cause of
>    stress for Americans, a new survey finds.
>    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-biggest-cause-of-stress-in-america-today/

_Only_ if you want a "wife", I think.

I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.

> > If, somehow, I managed to use your credit card,
> > I'd be taking money from you (and/or the bank);
> > this is properly called "theft" and "fraud", not "illegal copying".
> >
> > You're hardly the first person to confuse these terms;
> > it's a common mistake.
> 
> I'm not confused. Music/video piracy is copyright infringement.
> That's not the point.

If, on the other hand, I started a NetFlix thingy,
charging money for it, without paying the content creators,
my ass would be tossed in jail, and I'd be shut down.

It's happened before, many times, recently.

Those who do it anonymously, without fame or renumeration,
don't get caught.  They keep going, decade after decade.
They work hard, helping people, without payment.

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#334099 — Re: I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.22{7.35A.Seattle.2015}...
> You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
>> > I don't want Windows to know that "C:\__" is my home folder;
>> > if it knew, it'd add subFolders to it, and crap like that.
>> >
>> > Instead, I ReName "My Documents" to "Sys", under "C:\__";
>> > so "Sys" is easy to see/search (it has important subFolders).
>>
>> Different installers are going to put these directories somewhere.
>> Hiding them and confusing things seems like it would cause problems.
>> Wouldn't it just be easier to delete the folders if they're created?
>
> No, you can't just delete them, Windows reCreates them.
>
> For me, on my system, everything installs correctly;
> installers use logical paths, like %LocalAppData%.
>
> When I put %LocalAppData% in Explorer's address bar,
> "C:\__\Sys\AppData" shows up.
>
> My Desktop is "C:\__\Sys\AppData\Desktop";
> it's empty/blank, I don't use it.

Sounds like a pretty crazy setup but if it works for you then that's all 
that matters.


>> > Some are "poor" because they do _not_ stress over it (money).
>>
>> Certainly true for "some" - I know a few of these "some" people.
>> Nothing wrong with that.
>>
>>    "The biggest cause of stress in America today" - Feb 2015
>>    Money continues to be the leading cause of
>>    stress for Americans, a new survey finds.
>> 
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-biggest-cause-of-stress-in-america-today/
>
> _Only_ if you want a "wife", I think.
>
> I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.
>

LOL. I have a friend in Colorado like that. He lives in a small cabin way up 
on a mountain.

I went the other way with a wife and four kids.

>> > If, somehow, I managed to use your credit card,
>> > I'd be taking money from you (and/or the bank);
>> > this is properly called "theft" and "fraud", not "illegal copying".
>> >
>> > You're hardly the first person to confuse these terms;
>> > it's a common mistake.
>>
>> I'm not confused. Music/video piracy is copyright infringement.
>> That's not the point.
>
> If, on the other hand, I started a NetFlix thingy,
> charging money for it, without paying the content creators,
> my ass would be tossed in jail, and I'd be shut down.
>
> It's happened before, many times, recently.
>
> Those who do it anonymously, without fame or renumeration,
> don't get caught.  They keep going, decade after decade.
> They work hard, helping people, without payment.

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#334121 — How many wives/kids do you have ?

You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
> > I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.
> 
> LOL. I have a friend in Colorado like that. 
> He lives in a small cabin way up on a mountain.
> 
> I went the other [day] with a wife and four kids.

"_a_ wife and kids" ?

How many wives/kids do you have ?

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#334136 — Re: How many wives/kids do you have ?

On 11/22/2015 06:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (Ezekiel) replied (to me):
>>> I have a vasectomy, I'm stress free.
>>
>> LOL. I have a friend in Colorado like that.
>> He lives in a small cabin way up on a mountain.
>>
>> I went the other [day] with a wife and four kids.
>
> "_a_ wife and kids" ?
>
> How many wives/kids do you have ?
>
You know Rolf, that one can have a vasectomy and still have a wife. One 
can even have kids. As for stress free ... a wife is not the recommended 
way to achieve that. Just ask HVAC. Of course he considers all the men 
he takes fishing on BrokeBack lake to be his "wives".

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#333489

On 2015-11-18 7:32 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote in message 
> news:n2hp6m$o25$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org...
>> On 18/11/2015 11:09, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Run aptitude, refresh the package status, see over 1 Gb of updates (this 
>>> is
>>> Debian unstable), start the timer....
>>>
>>> .... 11 minutes later, update done.
>>>
>>> I shudder to think how long this update would take on
>>> <laughing> Windows.
>>>
> 
> "giggle" - What is it with weirdos like Ahlstrom that they have to <laugh> 
> and <giggle> all the time?
> 
>   I got a big laugh out of the Surface add where they boast about the USB
>   port, showing someone carrying one with a big blue *dongle* <laughing>
>   hanging off of it, like it was exposing itself.
> 
> There's nothing funnier that a "big blue *dongle* <laughing>" that's 
> "exposing itself" in a television commercial for a laptop computer.
> 
> It doesn't get any weirder than this.

At least condomresiduev likes him though.

>> Why does it even matter, who sits looking at their machine doing updates? 
>> I bet you love sitting and watching paint dry as well.
> 
> There's a difference in distributing an update that has to work on many 
> 100's of millions of consumer machines and a Debian update to a small number 
> of geeks. If one particular update causes problems/breaks something then 
> it's easy to undo and uninstall one specific update. With aptitude, not 
> exactly easy to do.
> 
> "Works for me" doesn't cut it. What happens to work on one machine doesn't 
> mean it'll work on many 100's of millions of machines without a need to undo 
> an update.
> 
> The time an update takes isn't all that interesting. This multi-tasking 
> thing actually works making it a moot point. I do think that Windows updates 
> should be faster but it's pretty far down my wish-list.

The fact that so many Windows 10 machines, by default, help to pull
their own weight in delivering updates should speed them up somewhat.
Smarter people disable this feature to save on bandwidth but most don't
and therefore everything is delivered a lot faster.

-- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia Member / IFAW and PETA Supporter
Death to those who would abuse and kill in the name of Islam.

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