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| First post | 2015-11-15 03:27 +0100 |
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Statistics on 15.11.2015. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-15 03:27 +0100
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:22 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 13:31 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:51 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 18:37 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:00 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 00:29 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:40 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 01:22 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 18:35 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 02:54 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 19:59 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:27 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 20:35 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:52 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 21:09 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 04:57 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 22:33 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 06:28 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 08:49 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 16:37 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 10:30 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:07 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 11:18 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:29 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 11:40 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:54 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 12:09 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:18 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 12:31 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 19:41 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:14 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 13:26 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:10 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 14:20 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:26 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 15:18 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:37 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 16:41 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:51 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:06 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 17:13 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-19 00:01 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 17:11 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:06 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 18:18 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:27 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 19:19 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 03:15 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 20:32 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 04:07 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 21:31 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 07:43 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:31 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:12 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 23:12 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 16:19 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 23:53 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 16:04 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 17:07 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-20 00:28 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 18:56 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:04 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-19 07:56 -0600
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 19:52 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:31 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-11-19 01:51 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:33 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:15 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 07:46 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-19 08:28 +0000
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-19 08:17 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 22:13 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 09:35 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 12:05 -0800
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 17:13 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Edward Stansfield <stansfield5REM6@linuxmail.org> - 2015-11-18 17:19 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-18 18:38 -0500
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 15:19 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 12:55 -0700
Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 13:36 -0800
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 16:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f062dd8e-74ee-410e-96ac-968f49f5bca0@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #333624 |
On Wednesday, November 18, 2015 at 4:51:50 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > On 11/18/15, 4:37 PM, in article fhem.zoa91afa@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > > > ... > >> You are an idiot. > > > > Your view of me is irrelevant. I, though, unlike you can figure out, without > > looking at any manpage, what Apple means by: > > > > ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ > > > > It is simple: the tilde means the users folder and then go from there. > > > > So very, very easy... but you cannot quite get the grasp of it (at least not > > without referring to a manpage). > > > > Waaaaa repost loop Snit was trying to get you to help him prove he's "right" in his age old argument with Tim Adams where Snit yanked Tim's statement out of context (as I show in the post of Sandman's I linked to earlier). Now Crackhammad Al-Gluhani has completely missed your point. I guess that's all one can expect from a guy that goes around asking people about incest for over a dozen years... he's probably inbred himself.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 17:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2726236.6498F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333624 |
On 11/18/15, 4:51 PM, in article fe03af.ap@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/15, 4:37 PM, in article fhem.zoa91afa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> You are an idiot.
>>
>> Your view of me is irrelevant. I, though, unlike you can figure out, without
>> looking at any manpage, what Apple means by:
>>
>> ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>
>> It is simple: the tilde means the users folder and then go from there.
>>
>> So very, very easy... but you cannot quite get the grasp of it (at least not
>> without referring to a manpage).
>
> Waaaaa repost loop
So stop going in loops! I mean, really, this is not complex. If I looked up
an Apple tech document and saw this:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
-----
Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
-----
I would know EXACTLY where to go. No need to run to a manpage. If you know
even the basics of what the tilde means you would not have the need, either.
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-19 00:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <564d114b$0$8224$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> |
| In reply to | #333618 |
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:37:17 +0000, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 11/18/15, 2:26 PM, in article fhenfaua30.ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/15, 2:10 PM, in article nvjug83.ar3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> The one Apple uses here:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>>>>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words: the user's home folder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> If the tilde refers to "the user's home folder", can you explain the
>>>>> following without referring to the manpage?
>>>>>
>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~ # OK, that's my home directory
>>>>> /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon # why is this not
>>>>> /home/anonanon? /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anona # why is
>>>>> this not /home/anonanona? ~anona anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~root # why
>>>>> is this not /home/anonroot? /root anon@lowtide:~$
>>>>
>>>> You changed your defaults. So?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> What are you talking about? I didn't change anything. Read the
>>> manpage for bash like I told you.
>>>
>> Comes down to when I see what Apple shows in their tech doc:
>>
>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>> -----
>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>> -----
>>
>> Unlike you, without using any manpage or anything else I know they mean
>> a folder in the user's home folder.
>>
>> Now you can also name files with a tilde in them. Looks like you may
>> have done that. Whatever. Not really interested right now in edge cases
>> and puzzles... though I admit at times those can be fun. :)
>>
>>
> You are an idiot. The explanation for what is happening is right there
> in the bash manpage, under the "Tilde Expansion" heading. I posted this
> already about six or eight levels above in this thread, but even with it
> staring you right in the face you resist understanding.
> Congratulations. It takes a championship caliber narcissistic stupidity
> to cling to a mistaken position with such intensity.
ffs, just quote the thing.
EXPANSION
[...]
Tilde Expansion
If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character (`~'),
all of the characters preceding the first unquoted slash
(or all characters, if there is no unquoted slash) are
considered a tilde-prefix. If none of the characters in
the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the
tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possi‐
ble login name. If this login name is the null string,
the tilde is replaced with the value of the shell param‐
eter HOME. If HOME is unset, the home directory of the
user executing the shell is substituted instead. Other‐
wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home direc‐
tory associated with the specified login name.
If the tilde-prefix is a `~+', the value of the shell
variable PWD replaces the tilde-prefix. If the tilde-
prefix is a `~-', the value of the shell variable OLD‐
PWD, if it is set, is substituted. If the characters
following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a
number N, optionally prefixed by a `+' or a `-', the
tilde-prefix is replaced with the corresponding element
from the directory stack, as it would be displayed by
the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an
argument. If the characters following the tilde in the
tilde-prefix consist of a number without a leading `+'
or `-', `+' is assumed.
If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion
fails, the word is unchanged.
Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-
prefixes immediately following a : or the first =. In
these cases, tilde expansion is also performed. Conse‐
quently, one may use filenames with tildes in assign‐
ments to PATH, MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell
assigns the expanded value.
--
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-18 17:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D27261DE.6498E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333627 |
On 11/18/15, 5:01 PM, in article
564d114b$0$8224$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
<vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:37:17 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/18/15, 2:26 PM, in article fhenfaua30.ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/18/15, 2:10 PM, in article nvjug83.ar3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one Apple uses here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>>>>>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words: the user's home folder.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the tilde refers to "the user's home folder", can you explain the
>>>>>> following without referring to the manpage?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~ # OK, that's my home directory
>>>>>> /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon # why is this not
>>>>>> /home/anonanon? /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anona # why is
>>>>>> this not /home/anonanona? ~anona anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~root # why
>>>>>> is this not /home/anonroot? /root anon@lowtide:~$
>>>>>
>>>>> You changed your defaults. So?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What are you talking about? I didn't change anything. Read the
>>>> manpage for bash like I told you.
>>>>
>>> Comes down to when I see what Apple shows in their tech doc:
>>>
>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>> -----
>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>> -----
>>>
>>> Unlike you, without using any manpage or anything else I know they mean
>>> a folder in the user's home folder.
>>>
>>> Now you can also name files with a tilde in them. Looks like you may
>>> have done that. Whatever. Not really interested right now in edge cases
>>> and puzzles... though I admit at times those can be fun. :)
>>>
>>>
>> You are an idiot. The explanation for what is happening is right there
>> in the bash manpage, under the "Tilde Expansion" heading. I posted this
>> already about six or eight levels above in this thread, but even with it
>> staring you right in the face you resist understanding.
>> Congratulations. It takes a championship caliber narcissistic stupidity
>> to cling to a mistaken position with such intensity.
>
> ffs, just quote the thing.
>
> EXPANSION
> [...]
> Tilde Expansion
> If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character (`~'),
> all of the characters preceding the first unquoted slash
> (or all characters, if there is no unquoted slash) are
> considered a tilde-prefix. If none of the characters in
> the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the
> tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possi?
> ble login name. If this login name is the null string,
> the tilde is replaced with the value of the shell param?
> eter HOME. If HOME is unset, the home directory of the
> user executing the shell is substituted instead. Other?
> wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home direc?
> tory associated with the specified login name.
>
> If the tilde-prefix is a `~+', the value of the shell
> variable PWD replaces the tilde-prefix. If the tilde-
> prefix is a `~-', the value of the shell variable OLD?
> PWD, if it is set, is substituted. If the characters
> following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a
> number N, optionally prefixed by a `+' or a `-', the
> tilde-prefix is replaced with the corresponding element
> from the directory stack, as it would be displayed by
> the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an
> argument. If the characters following the tilde in the
> tilde-prefix consist of a number without a leading `+'
> or `-', `+' is assumed.
>
> If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion
> fails, the word is unchanged.
>
> Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde-
> prefixes immediately following a : or the first =. In
> these cases, tilde expansion is also performed. Conse?
> quently, one may use filenames with tildes in assign?
> ments to PATH, MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell
> assigns the expanded value.
>
But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure YOU would know what
folder to go to when Apple pointed to:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
-----
Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
-----
If I am wrong please let me know. :)
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 01:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333630 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/18/15, 5:01 PM, in article > 564d114b$0$8224$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com, "vallor" > <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:37:17 +0000, owl wrote: >> >>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>>> On 11/18/15, 2:26 PM, in article fhenfaua30.ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>>>>> On 11/18/15, 2:10 PM, in article nvjug83.ar3@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> The one Apple uses here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio >>>>>>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In other words: the user's home folder. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the tilde refers to "the user's home folder", can you explain the >>>>>>> following without referring to the manpage? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~ # OK, that's my home directory >>>>>>> /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon # why is this not >>>>>>> /home/anonanon? /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anona # why is >>>>>>> this not /home/anonanona? ~anona anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~root # why >>>>>>> is this not /home/anonroot? /root anon@lowtide:~$ >>>>>> >>>>>> You changed your defaults. So? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> What are you talking about? I didn't change anything. Read the >>>>> manpage for bash like I told you. >>>>> >>>> Comes down to when I see what Apple shows in their tech doc: >>>> >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>> ----- >>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio >>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> Unlike you, without using any manpage or anything else I know they mean >>>> a folder in the user's home folder. >>>> >>>> Now you can also name files with a tilde in them. Looks like you may >>>> have done that. Whatever. Not really interested right now in edge cases >>>> and puzzles... though I admit at times those can be fun. :) >>>> >>>> >>> You are an idiot. The explanation for what is happening is right there >>> in the bash manpage, under the "Tilde Expansion" heading. I posted this >>> already about six or eight levels above in this thread, but even with it >>> staring you right in the face you resist understanding. >>> Congratulations. It takes a championship caliber narcissistic stupidity >>> to cling to a mistaken position with such intensity. >> >> ffs, just quote the thing. >> >> EXPANSION >> [...] >> Tilde Expansion >> If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character (`~'), >> all of the characters preceding the first unquoted slash >> (or all characters, if there is no unquoted slash) are >> considered a tilde-prefix. If none of the characters in >> the tilde-prefix are quoted, the characters in the >> tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possi? >> ble login name. If this login name is the null string, >> the tilde is replaced with the value of the shell param? >> eter HOME. If HOME is unset, the home directory of the >> user executing the shell is substituted instead. Other? >> wise, the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home direc? >> tory associated with the specified login name. >> >> If the tilde-prefix is a `~+', the value of the shell >> variable PWD replaces the tilde-prefix. If the tilde- >> prefix is a `~-', the value of the shell variable OLD? >> PWD, if it is set, is substituted. If the characters >> following the tilde in the tilde-prefix consist of a >> number N, optionally prefixed by a `+' or a `-', the >> tilde-prefix is replaced with the corresponding element >> from the directory stack, as it would be displayed by >> the dirs builtin invoked with the tilde-prefix as an >> argument. If the characters following the tilde in the >> tilde-prefix consist of a number without a leading `+' >> or `-', `+' is assumed. >> >> If the login name is invalid, or the tilde expansion >> fails, the word is unchanged. >> >> Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted tilde- >> prefixes immediately following a : or the first =. In >> these cases, tilde expansion is also performed. Conse? >> quently, one may use filenames with tildes in assign? >> ments to PATH, MAILPATH, and CDPATH, and the shell >> assigns the expanded value. >> > > But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure That's your problem right there. Look at it, you moron.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 18:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2727168.649C3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333638 |
On 11/18/15, 6:06 PM, in article fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure YOU would know what >> folder to go to when Apple pointed to: >> >> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >> ----- >> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >> ----- >> >> If I am wrong please let me know. :) > > That's your problem right there. Look at it, you moron. So you would need to look at the manpage to figure out where Apple is pointing to. OK. I would not. Not sure why you have a need to go around and around and around about this. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 01:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fbvncue83.jgif@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333640 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/18/15, 6:06 PM, in article fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >>> But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure YOU would know what >>> folder to go to when Apple pointed to: >>> >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>> ----- >>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>> ----- >>> >>> If I am wrong please let me know. :) >> >> That's your problem right there. Look at it, you moron. > > So you would need to look at the manpage to figure out where Apple is > pointing to. OK. > > I would not. > > Not sure why you have a need to go around and around and around about this. > > So it suits you to use an isolated example -- which illustrates *one* possible meaning -- as an explanation for the general case that you put forward at the start of the thread. Fine. Continue to live in ignorance. Just for fun, run this and tell me what it shows: $ ls "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/"
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 19:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2727FC8.649D6%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333641 |
On 11/18/15, 6:27 PM, in article fbvncue83.jgif@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 11/18/15, 6:06 PM, in article fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> >>>> But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure YOU would know what >>>> folder to go to when Apple pointed to: >>>> >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>> ----- >>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> If I am wrong please let me know. :) >>> >>> That's your problem right there. Look at it, you moron. >> >> So you would need to look at the manpage to figure out where Apple is >> pointing to. OK. >> >> I would not. >> >> Not sure why you have a need to go around and around and around about this. > > So it suits you to use an isolated example As long as it is a common and representative usage, sure! Now it does not mean people cannot have a file or folder named "Fred~Wilma" or "~Bob" or even "~~~~~~~", and of course I would take that into consideration based on the context. But clearly the idea the tilde means "the hard drive only" is absurd - it generally means the user's home folder. ... > Just for fun, run this and tell me what it shows: > > $ ls "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" You would not want the tilde in quotes. Try this instead: ls ~/"Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" But no desire to get into an extended side issue on this. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 03:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fhgnvmc93.a0@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333649 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/18/15, 6:27 PM, in article fbvncue83.jgif@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 11/18/15, 6:06 PM, in article fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>> But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure YOU would know what >>>>> folder to go to when Apple pointed to: >>>>> >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> If I am wrong please let me know. :) >>>> >>>> That's your problem right there. Look at it, you moron. >>> >>> So you would need to look at the manpage to figure out where Apple is >>> pointing to. OK. >>> >>> I would not. >>> >>> Not sure why you have a need to go around and around and around about this. >> >> So it suits you to use an isolated example > > As long as it is a common and representative usage, sure! Now it does not > mean people cannot have a file or folder named "Fred~Wilma" or "~Bob" or > even "~~~~~~~", and of course I would take that into consideration based on > the context. > > But clearly the idea the tilde means "the hard drive only" is absurd - it > generally means the user's home folder. > > ... >> Just for fun, run this and tell me what it shows: >> >> $ ls "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" > > You would not want the tilde in quotes. Try this instead: > That's correct, but how did you come by that knowledge? After all, most path names can be quoted without causing problems. anon@lowtide:~$ cd /usr/bin anon@lowtide:/usr/bin$ cd anon@lowtide:~$ cd "/usr/bin" anon@lowtide:/usr/bin$ cd anon@lowtide:~$ > ls ~/"Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" > > But no desire to get into an extended side issue on this. > It is not a "side issue" when it comes to the tilde. Nothing prevents you from having a directory "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" anywhere in your tree.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 20:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D27290DC.649F5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333654 |
On 11/18/15, 8:15 PM, in article fhgnvmc93.a0@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
...
>> But clearly the idea the tilde means "the hard drive only" is absurd - it
>> generally means the user's home folder.
>>
>> ...
>>> Just for fun, run this and tell me what it shows:
>>>
>>> $ ls "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/"
>>
>> You would not want the tilde in quotes. Try this instead:
>
> That's correct, but how did you come by that knowledge?
Hmmm, don't know. Have known it for years. I will admit I tried yours first,
then had my "do'h" moment and did it the other way. I do not use the command
line much... used to back in the 1990s.
>> ls ~/"Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/"
>>
>> But no desire to get into an extended side issue on this.
>>
>
> It is not a "side issue" when it comes to the tilde. Nothing prevents
> you from having a directory "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/"
> anywhere in your tree.
Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from
understanding the common usage and what Apple means here:
<https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
-----
Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
-----
That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning is
clearly the user's home folder.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 04:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fhgnv30.paf@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333655 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/18/15, 8:15 PM, in article fhgnvmc93.a0@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > ... >>> But clearly the idea the tilde means "the hard drive only" is absurd - it >>> generally means the user's home folder. >>> >>> ... >>>> Just for fun, run this and tell me what it shows: >>>> >>>> $ ls "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" >>> >>> You would not want the tilde in quotes. Try this instead: >> >> That's correct, but how did you come by that knowledge? > > Hmmm, don't know. Have known it for years. And yet when asked to explain how you know, without reading a manpage, that the following are equivalent: cd "/usr/bin" cd /usr/bin but the following are not equivalent: cd "~/foo" cd ~/foo your response was "Never said if I do or do not know that". And when asked: If the tilde refers to "the user's home folder", can you explain the following without referring to the manpage? anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~ # OK, that's my home directory /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon # why is this not /home/anonanon? /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anona # why is this not /home/anonanona? ~anona anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~root # why is this not /home/anonroot? /root anon@lowtide:~$ your response was to accuse me of "changing my defaults." Is that something else you have "known for years"? > I will admit I tried yours first, > then had my "do'h" moment and did it the other way. I do not use the command > line much... used to back in the 1990s. > And yet you are above using a manpage that could prevent a catastrophic mistake. >>> ls ~/"Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" >>> >>> But no desire to get into an extended side issue on this. >>> >> >> It is not a "side issue" when it comes to the tilde. Nothing prevents >> you from having a directory "~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/" >> anywhere in your tree. > > Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from > understanding the common usage and what Apple means here: > > <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> > ----- > Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ > ----- > > That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning is > clearly the user's home folder. > The meaning is context-dependent as described in the manpage. Quotes, existing users, path position, etc., all determine what the tilde "means".
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-18 21:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2729EA9.64A00%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333657 |
On 11/18/15, 9:07 PM, in article fhgnv30.paf@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: ... >> Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from >> understanding the common usage and what Apple means here: >> >> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >> ----- >> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >> ----- >> >> That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning is >> clearly the user's home folder. > > The meaning is context-dependent as described in the manpage. Quotes, > existing users, path position, etc., all determine what the tilde "means". In the context I show above the meaning is crystal clear. As I have told you: I am not really interested in your side issues and am barely skimming... so, yeah, I messed stuff I should not have. Whatever. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 07:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fheja0.3aw@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333658 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/18/15, 9:07 PM, in article fhgnv30.paf@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > ... >>> Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from >>> understanding the common usage and what Apple means here: >>> >>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>> ----- >>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>> ----- >>> >>> That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning is >>> clearly the user's home folder. >> >> The meaning is context-dependent as described in the manpage. Quotes, >> existing users, path position, etc., all determine what the tilde "means". > > In the context I show above the meaning is crystal clear. So what? That's not the only possible context. You made sweeping statements about the meaning of the tilde. You are wrong (and clueless). RTFM.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 08:31 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D2733967.64A9B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333659 |
On 11/19/15, 12:43 AM, in article fheja0.3aw@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 11/18/15, 9:07 PM, in article fhgnv30.paf@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> >> ... >>>> Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from >>>> understanding the common usage and what Apple means here: >>>> >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>> ----- >>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application >>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>> ----- >>>> >>>> That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning >>>> is clearly the user's home folder. >>>> >>> The meaning is context-dependent as described in the manpage. Quotes, >>> existing users, path position, etc., all determine what the tilde "means". >>> >> In the context I show above the meaning is crystal clear. > > So what? So I know what it means in the common context without having to run to a manpage, and I know it does not mean the hard drive only. Which was the question. > That's not the only possible context. Can you show another context from, say, an Apple tech article. How about Linux one? One other than how to deal with confusion about the tilde, but just an article that happens to use it? > You made sweeping statements about the meaning of the tilde. You are wrong > (and clueless). RTFM. I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically ignoring. Yup. So? -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333692 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/19/15, 12:43 AM, in article fheja0.3aw@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 11/18/15, 9:07 PM, in article fhgnv30.paf@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>>>> Well, I can name a folder "~" if I wanted... but that does not stop me from >>>>> understanding the common usage and what Apple means here: >>>>> >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application >>>>> Support/MobileSync/Backup/ >>>>> ----- >>>>> >>>>> That is the common use of the tilde in a path statement - and the meaning >>>>> is clearly the user's home folder. >>>>> >>>> The meaning is context-dependent as described in the manpage. Quotes, >>>> existing users, path position, etc., all determine what the tilde "means". >>>> >>> In the context I show above the meaning is crystal clear. >> >> So what? > > So I know what it means in the common context without having to run to a > manpage, and I know it does not mean the hard drive only. Which was the > question. > No, you don't run to a manpage (the proper place). You run to a "tech article." >> That's not the only possible context. > > Can you show another context from, say, an Apple tech article. How about > Linux one? One other than how to deal with confusion about the tilde, but > just an article that happens to use it? > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_userdir.html anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~snit /dungeon/snit anon@lowtide:~$ tree --charset=ascii ~anon/public_html /home/anon/public_html `-- blah.html 0 directories, 1 file anon@lowtide:~$ tree --charset=ascii ~snit/public_html /dungeon/snit/public_html `-- torture.html 0 directories, 1 file anon@lowtide:~$ curl http://localhost/~anon/blah.html <html> <head> </head> <body> blah </body> </html> anon@lowtide:~$ curl http://localhost/~snit/torture.html <html> <head> </head> <body> <b> ouch! </b> </body> </html> anon@lowtide:~$ >> You made sweeping statements about the meaning of the tilde. You are wrong >> (and clueless). RTFM. > > I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically > ignoring. Yup. So? > Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 16:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D273A404.64B6E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333729 |
On 11/19/15, 12:12 PM, in article afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: ... >> I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically >> ignoring. Yup. So? >> > > Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"? Your side issues, of course. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 23:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <3fhua03.ar@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333765 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/19/15, 12:12 PM, in article afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > ... >>> I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically >>> ignoring. Yup. So? >>> >> >> Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"? > > Your side issues, of course. > Why snip the example I provided at your request without comment? https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_userdir.html
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 16:19 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D273A705.64B7C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #333767 |
On 11/19/15, 4:12 PM, in article 3fhua03.ar@rooftop.invalid, "owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 11/19/15, 12:12 PM, in article afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> >> ... >>>> I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically >>>> ignoring. Yup. So? >>>> >>> >>> Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"? >> >> Your side issues, of course. > > Why snip the example I provided at your request without comment? > https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_userdir.html Why am I snipping your side issues... um, because I am not interested in your side issues. As I said. <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6252471/what-is-the-use-of-tilde-in-url> The tilde in the URL on apache means someone's home directory. And people asking how to remove it: <http://www.experts-exchange.com/Software/Server_Software/Active_Directory/Q _27258514.html> OR <http://goo.gl/qXejQT> -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 23:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <sfhgncjv83.oae@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #333769 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/19/15, 4:12 PM, in article 3fhua03.ar@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 11/19/15, 12:12 PM, in article afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid, "owl" >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> ... >>>>> I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically >>>>> ignoring. Yup. So? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"? >>> >>> Your side issues, of course. >> >> Why snip the example I provided at your request without comment? >> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_userdir.html > > Why am I snipping your side issues... um, because I am not interested in > your side issues. As I said. > > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6252471/what-is-the-use-of-tilde-in-url> > > The tilde in the URL on apache means someone's home directory. > No, in this context it is the tilde IN COMBINATION WITH THE USERNAME that means someone's home directory. > And people asking how to remove it: > So?
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-19 16:04 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <403d678b-0ef1-4c5f-82bb-d9c3a65f9fc6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #333777 |
On Thursday, November 19, 2015 at 4:53:04 PM UTC-7, owl wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > > On 11/19/15, 4:12 PM, in article 3fhua03.ar@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > >>> On 11/19/15, 12:12 PM, in article afhn8.aefp@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > >>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >>> > >>> ... > >>>>> I made an admitted error when you showed your side issue I was basically > >>>>> ignoring. Yup. So? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Why do you keep calling it a "side issue"? > >>> > >>> Your side issues, of course. > >> > >> Why snip the example I provided at your request without comment? > >> https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/mod/mod_userdir.html > > > > Why am I snipping your side issues... um, because I am not interested in > > your side issues. As I said. > > > > <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6252471/what-is-the-use-of-tilde-in-url> > > > > The tilde in the URL on apache means someone's home directory. > > > > No, in this context it is the tilde IN COMBINATION WITH THE USERNAME that > means someone's home directory. > > > And people asking how to remove it: > > > > So? So he also didn't read any of the comments on the page he linked to... not that he would have understood any of them ;)
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