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Re: How To Improve This Group

From	candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: How To Improve This Group
Date	2025-04-10 18:00 +0000
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 00:02 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 4/9/25 19:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 20:55 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you COULD get more people to migrate to USENET from traditional
>>>> social media, that would be great. I personally don't think many people
>>>> are going to want to learn a new software for such an old protocol.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, then, maybe they should stop using email.  After all, that protocol
>>> goes back to at least 1975.
>> 
>> Most people use a website for email, and Gmail/Outlook.
>
> I see nothing but security issues in using web-based e-mail myself. If 
> my e-mail is not configured in a client like Betterbird, I also find it 
> incredibly inconvenient.

I mostly use a website for my outlook account, since the org setup makes
it extremely hard to use betterbird for it.

>< snip >
>
>>> Usenet is still very much viable as is IRC.  All that is required
>>> is for more people to start using it -- again.
>>>
>>> The case is closed.
>> 
>> I agree, the main problem from my pov is barrier to entry and
>> "precivable" benefits. Yes, obviously, USENET is great for being simple
>> and decrentralized, but the average person would not care/understand
>> what being "decentralized" means, and the simplicity is seen as a
>> drawback. And as for barrier to entry, the only real client people would
>> be likely/willing to use would be Thunderbird, since everything else is
>> either old (again, /I/ don't care, but ppl definitely would), highly
>> specialized FOSS programs that most of the time are targeted to Linux,
>> or a TUI program. And they have to configure the newsreader to connect
>> to a server, FIND a server, etc etc.. and no layman would go through
>> that just for a "retro forum experience that has barely any users". As
>> well as the general tech illiteracy. So, IF the barrier to entry was
>> lowered, and potentially a webapp made, people MIGHT be willing to try
>> it. I think that's a pretty long shot, though.
>
> Good luck getting people to use IRC again. I spent my adolescence on 
> there, but it is clear that it is not attracting the same kind of people 
> three decades later. It's too bad because some networks, like Rizon, are 
> doing a fantastic job with their servers. Nonetheless, IRC apparently 
> isn't as appealing in its uncensored, decentralized nature as a 
> proprietary, centralized social medium like Instagram's comment section is.

What's Rizon doing?

> To be honest, I'm glad that neither IRC nor Usenet attract those kinds 
> of people anyway. I'd rather know that I'm communicating with 
> sufficiently smart individuals on the old networks than the vapid, 
> superficial cretins on modern social media.


Yeah, fair point.
-- 
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-27 19:49 +0000
  Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 16:01 -0400
  Re: How To Improve This Group vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 20:23 +0000
    Re: How To Improve This Group pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:45 +0000
    Re: How To Improve This Group Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-28 11:30 -0400
  Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 19:00 +0000
    Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-09 20:55 +0000
      Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 23:40 +0000
        Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 19:47 -0400
        Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-09 20:02 -0400
          Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-10 12:58 +0000
            Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 09:02 -0400
            Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-10 09:48 -0400
              Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 14:01 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 10:04 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 16:36 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-10 10:13 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 16:26 +0000
              Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 07:02 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 03:06 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:49 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 13:44 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 11:22 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:40 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 19:30 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-12 02:59 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 08:00 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 06:40 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 08:55 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 23:06 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-13 00:38 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-13 08:47 -0400
          Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-10 18:00 +0000
            Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:42 -0400
        Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-10 11:08 +0000
          Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-10 13:03 +0000
            Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-10 20:06 +0000
              Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 07:10 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:50 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 12:58 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 09:18 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-11 15:16 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:46 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-12 09:41 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 10:17 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 09:02 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 22:58 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-13 08:44 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-13 19:15 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 11:52 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:42 +0000
                Re: How To Improve This Group bill_wilson <bill_w@aol.com> - 2025-04-11 14:34 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:38 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 11:41 -0700
                Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:51 -0400
                Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 12:12 -0700
                Re: How To Improve This Group Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-11 20:47 +0000
          Re: How To Improve This Group Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-12 09:34 +0000
            Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-12 19:58 +0000
              Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 13:07 -0700

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