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| Subject | Re: How To Improve This Group |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| References | (1 earlier) <slrnvvdghq.2rja1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <pan$50a44$1f664dd1$e7bd5ea1$6d12b431@linux.rocks> <slrnvve1a5.3d82b.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <vUDJP.356868$sbY2.163630@fx40.iad> <slrnvvfg3a.cd7.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> |
| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
| Message-ID | <T_PJP.168523$J3s7.41897@fx05.iad> (permalink) |
| Organization | usenet-news.net |
| Date | 2025-04-10 09:48 -0400 |
On 2025-04-10 08:58, Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-04-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 4/9/25 19:40, candycanearter07 wrote: >>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 20:55 this Wednesday (GMT): >>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, if you COULD get more people to migrate to USENET from traditional >>>>> social media, that would be great. I personally don't think many people >>>>> are going to want to learn a new software for such an old protocol. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Well, then, maybe they should stop using email. After all, that protocol >>>> goes back to at least 1975. >>> >>> Most people use a website for email, and Gmail/Outlook. >> >> I see nothing but security issues in using web-based e-mail myself. If >> my e-mail is not configured in a client like Betterbird, I also find it >> incredibly inconvenient. >> >> < snip > >> >>>> Usenet is still very much viable as is IRC. All that is required >>>> is for more people to start using it -- again. >>>> >>>> The case is closed. >>> >>> I agree, the main problem from my pov is barrier to entry and >>> "precivable" benefits. Yes, obviously, USENET is great for being simple >>> and decrentralized, but the average person would not care/understand >>> what being "decentralized" means, and the simplicity is seen as a >>> drawback. And as for barrier to entry, the only real client people would >>> be likely/willing to use would be Thunderbird, since everything else is >>> either old (again, /I/ don't care, but ppl definitely would), highly >>> specialized FOSS programs that most of the time are targeted to Linux, >>> or a TUI program. And they have to configure the newsreader to connect >>> to a server, FIND a server, etc etc.. and no layman would go through >>> that just for a "retro forum experience that has barely any users". As >>> well as the general tech illiteracy. So, IF the barrier to entry was >>> lowered, and potentially a webapp made, people MIGHT be willing to try >>> it. I think that's a pretty long shot, though. >> >> Good luck getting people to use IRC again. I spent my adolescence on >> there, but it is clear that it is not attracting the same kind of people >> three decades later. It's too bad because some networks, like Rizon, are >> doing a fantastic job with their servers. Nonetheless, IRC apparently >> isn't as appealing in its uncensored, decentralized nature as a >> proprietary, centralized social medium like Instagram's comment section is. >> >> To be honest, I'm glad that neither IRC nor Usenet attract those kinds >> of people anyway. I'd rather know that I'm communicating with >> sufficiently smart individuals on the old networks than the vapid, >> superficial cretins on modern social media. >> > > IRC doesn't have stickers, animated emojis, GIFs. You cannot review > messages that came through when you were offline. Almost now changing > of fonts. No avatars. It takes a bit to learn (depending on the > client). No advertising, no extra "features" such as NFTs and skins or > what have you. No reactions and no branding (ie, logos for chat groups). > > I'm saying this not because I agree, but because this is what people > want. I do prefer the simplicity of IRC myself, bit IRC is not coming > back. There are no good mobile clients... Who the heck would want to use IRC on a cell phone anyway? It's made to be used with a keyboard. Anyways, if people want to get off of it in favour of something like Discord, all the power to them. However, I wouldn't want these people to complain once they're faced with a bombardment of advertisements and mass censorship. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage John 14:6
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How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-27 19:49 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 16:01 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-27 20:23 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 00:45 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-28 11:30 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 19:00 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-09 20:55 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 23:40 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-09 19:47 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-09 20:02 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-10 12:58 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 09:02 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-10 09:48 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 14:01 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 10:04 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 16:36 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-10 10:13 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.meow.org.invalid> - 2025-04-10 16:26 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 07:02 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 03:06 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:49 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 13:44 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 11:22 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:40 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 19:30 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-12 02:59 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 08:00 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 06:40 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 08:55 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 23:06 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-13 00:38 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-13 08:47 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-10 18:00 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:42 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-10 11:08 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-10 13:03 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-10 20:06 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 07:10 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 08:50 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-11 12:58 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-11 09:18 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-04-11 15:16 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:46 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-12 09:41 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 10:17 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-12 09:02 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-12 22:58 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-13 08:44 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-13 19:15 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-04-14 11:52 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-11 17:42 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group bill_wilson <bill_w@aol.com> - 2025-04-11 14:34 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:38 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 11:41 -0700
Re: How To Improve This Group Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 14:51 -0400
Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 12:12 -0700
Re: How To Improve This Group Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-11 20:47 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-12 09:34 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-04-12 19:58 +0000
Re: How To Improve This Group % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 13:07 -0700
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