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From: candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
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Subject: Re: How To Improve This Group
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 18:00:04 -0000 (UTC)
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 00:02 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 4/9/25 19:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 20:55 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:00:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, if you COULD get more people to migrate to USENET from traditional
>>>> social media, that would be great. I personally don't think many people
>>>> are going to want to learn a new software for such an old protocol.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, then, maybe they should stop using email.  After all, that protocol
>>> goes back to at least 1975.
>> 
>> Most people use a website for email, and Gmail/Outlook.
>
> I see nothing but security issues in using web-based e-mail myself. If 
> my e-mail is not configured in a client like Betterbird, I also find it 
> incredibly inconvenient.

I mostly use a website for my outlook account, since the org setup makes
it extremely hard to use betterbird for it.

>< snip >
>
>>> Usenet is still very much viable as is IRC.  All that is required
>>> is for more people to start using it -- again.
>>>
>>> The case is closed.
>> 
>> I agree, the main problem from my pov is barrier to entry and
>> "precivable" benefits. Yes, obviously, USENET is great for being simple
>> and decrentralized, but the average person would not care/understand
>> what being "decentralized" means, and the simplicity is seen as a
>> drawback. And as for barrier to entry, the only real client people would
>> be likely/willing to use would be Thunderbird, since everything else is
>> either old (again, /I/ don't care, but ppl definitely would), highly
>> specialized FOSS programs that most of the time are targeted to Linux,
>> or a TUI program. And they have to configure the newsreader to connect
>> to a server, FIND a server, etc etc.. and no layman would go through
>> that just for a "retro forum experience that has barely any users". As
>> well as the general tech illiteracy. So, IF the barrier to entry was
>> lowered, and potentially a webapp made, people MIGHT be willing to try
>> it. I think that's a pretty long shot, though.
>
> Good luck getting people to use IRC again. I spent my adolescence on 
> there, but it is clear that it is not attracting the same kind of people 
> three decades later. It's too bad because some networks, like Rizon, are 
> doing a fantastic job with their servers. Nonetheless, IRC apparently 
> isn't as appealing in its uncensored, decentralized nature as a 
> proprietary, centralized social medium like Instagram's comment section is.

What's Rizon doing?

> To be honest, I'm glad that neither IRC nor Usenet attract those kinds 
> of people anyway. I'd rather know that I'm communicating with 
> sufficiently smart individuals on the old networks than the vapid, 
> superficial cretins on modern social media.


Yeah, fair point.
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