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  noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Drago Giambattista Esposito <dragoesposito@Infostrada.it> - 2018-09-04 21:21 -0600
    Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-05 11:35 -0400
      Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Drago Giambattista Esposito <dragoesposito@Infostrada.it> - 2018-09-06 16:06 +0200
        Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Big Al <Big_Al@invalid.com> - 2018-09-06 16:14 -0400
    Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winston_mvp@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:26 -0400
      Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Drago Giambattista Esposito <dragoesposito@Infostrada.it> - 2018-09-06 16:13 +0200
        Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2018-09-10 10:01 -0400
    Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> - 2018-09-06 11:52 +0100
      Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Drago Giambattista Esposito <dragoesposito@Infostrada.it> - 2018-09-06 16:16 +0200
    Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> - 2018-09-10 13:59 +0100
      Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 14:21 +0000
        Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> - 2018-09-13 17:52 +0100
          Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 21:55 +0000
            Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-13 22:48 -0700
              Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2018-09-14 09:53 +0000
              Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Jim Dell <James.Dell@SBCGlobal.net> - 2018-09-18 08:37 -0400
                Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar Keith Keith <noddy@noddyland.com> - 2018-09-18 13:14 +0000
                  Re: noob Android Windows Gmail calendar The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2018-09-18 13:38 -0700

#55533 — noob Android Windows Gmail calendar

I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.

Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.

I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.

What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?

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#55557

On 09/04/2018 11:21 PM, Drago Giambattista Esposito wrote:
> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
> 
> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
> 
> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
> 
> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?
I use rainlendar2.  There is a free version but you have to pay a small 
fee to get the pro version that interfaces to Google Calendar.   I think 
it's great.   It displays on the screen your events, if you wish, and 
will interface to multiple G. Calendars.   My wife and I use it on 2 
laptops to keep our joint calendars visible as well as on the phone.

Thunderbird has a calendar and will interface to G.Calendar too.

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#55576

Big Al 

> ainlendar2.  There is a free version but you have to pay a small 
> fee to get the pro version that interfaces to Google Calendar.

Even though I do use Gmail I prefer not to use Google Calendar.

>  I think 
> it's great.   It displays on the screen your events, if you wish, and 
> will interface to multiple G. Calendars.   My wife and I use it on 2 
> laptops to keep our joint calendars visible as well as on the phone.

I have installed Rainlendar2 on Windows. 

Maybe Rainlendar can output a file format to Android that Android can read?

> Thunderbird has a calendar and will interface to G.Calendar too.

I was hoping there is a Google-free solution between Android & Windows.

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#55586

On 09/06/2018 10:06 AM, Drago Giambattista Esposito wrote:
> Big Al
>> ainlendar2.  There is a free version but you have to pay a small fee 
>> to get the pro version that interfaces to Google Calendar.
> 
> Even though I do use Gmail I prefer not to use Google Calendar.
> 
>>  I think it's great.   It displays on the screen your events, if you 
>> wish, and will interface to multiple G. Calendars.   My wife and I use 
>> it on 2 laptops to keep our joint calendars visible as well as on the 
>> phone.
> 
> I have installed Rainlendar2 on Windows.
> Maybe Rainlendar can output a file format to Android that Android can read?
> 
>> Thunderbird has a calendar and will interface to G.Calendar too.
> 
> I was hoping there is a Google-free solution between Android & Windows.
Both thunderbird and Rainlendar2 the free version will interface to .ics 
files.  Ical files.   Now if you can find a program for android that 
reads Ical, but you'd have to move it from windows to phone to update 
since they only work on local files.

That's why I like going through Google Calendar as it does the sharing 
for me.

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#55567

Drago Giambattista Esposito wrote:
> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
> 
> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
> 
> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
> 
> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?

Before considering other suggestions(like installing additional email 
software to connect to a calendar.....)

How about providing more info.
Since your are using Edge, you are also using Windows 10.

Does reading email in Edge indicate 'reading mail in the Google Mail web 
interface' or 'reading email in the Outlook.com web interface' or 'reading 
mail in another mail provider web interface e.g. your isp'?

Is your email account setup on your Android phone?

Fyi...if your email account is a Gmail account, Google Calendar can be setup 
in Windows 10 Calendar app.(Note: You need a Gmail account for Google Calendar).
  https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-google-calendar-windows-10


-- 
   ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ
msft mvp windows experience 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018

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#55579

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  

> Does reading email in Edge indicate 'reading mail in the Google Mail web 
> interface' or 'reading email in the Outlook.com web interface' or 'reading 
> mail in another mail provider web interface e.g. your isp'?

It was all automatically set up in Edge so I don't know how to tell.

> Is your email account setup on your Android phone?

Yes. It uses the K9 app. But I almost never use email on Android.
Except in dire emergencies.

I need mail on Windows. 
I need calendaring on both Windows & Android but mostly Android.

I'd rather not use Google if I don't have to.

> Fyi...if your email account is a Gmail account, Google Calendar can be setup 
> in Windows 10 Calendar app.(Note: You need a Gmail account for Google Calendar).
>   https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-google-calendar-windows-10

I hate that all the solutions require Google.

Can't there be a Windows/Android calendar solution outside of Google?

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#55713

On 06/09/2018 10.13, Drago Giambattista Esposito wrote:
> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ 
>> Does reading email in Edge indicate 'reading mail in the Google Mail
>> web interface' or 'reading email in the Outlook.com web interface' or
>> 'reading mail in another mail provider web interface e.g. your isp'?
> 
> It was all automatically set up in Edge so I don't know how to tell.
> 
>> Is your email account setup on your Android phone?
> 
> Yes. It uses the K9 app. But I almost never use email on Android.
> Except in dire emergencies.
> 
> I need mail on Windows. I need calendaring on both Windows & Android but
> mostly Android.
> 
> I'd rather not use Google if I don't have to.

Well... your "Subject" mentions "Gmail calendar", and that is the Google
calendar. It is simply the easiest one. Use Google Calendar on the
phone, and it syncs instantly with any other tablet or computer you
have, in all directions. It can share appointments with other people, or
send them via gmail.

For example, Thunderbird has a calendar addon that interfaces to google
calendar, and works on both Windows and Linux (plus the google site on a
web browser). And someone mentioned another native W10 tool that does it.

If you do not want to use Google, then you need a service on Internet
that does the syncing, and corresponding apps. There are enterprise
solutions that are private, internal to the enterprise network, should
be safe. But I'm not familiar with them.


I would repeat your post asking in the tittle for a non google
calendaring solution, hopefully cloud based.


Then there are non-cloud solutions. Maybe using your own server for
sharing, or transferring a file on the appropriate direction, manually,
each time.

Surely Microsoft-Windows has its own calendaring service, hopefully with
a calendar app for phones. But then you have to trust Microsoft more
than you do Google :-p


-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#55573

In article <pmni39$qog$1@gioia.aioe.org>, dragoesposito@Infostrada.it 
says...
> 
> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
> 
> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
> 
> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
> 
> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?

I struggled with this for a long time, but there are two very good 
options.

If you use Outlook (the office program) then the (inexpensive) utility 
gSyncit does an excellent job of synchronising Outlook (Calendar and 
Contacts) with your Google account, and the Google Android Calendar app 
is sufficient for most needs.

If you don't use Outlook for calendar, try the Windows 10 built-in Mail 
program.  You can easily configure it to synchronise with your Google 
calendar and it works seamlessly.

I use Outlook on my main desktop, but use Mail on laptop and tablet, so 
I always have my Calendar and contacts handy.

-- 

Phil, London

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#55580

Philip Herlihy 

>  You can easily configure it to synchronise with your Google 
> calendar and it works seamlessly.

Can't there be an Android/Windows calendar solution that doesn't require
Google?

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#55712

In article <pmni39$qog$1@gioia.aioe.org>, dragoesposito@Infostrada.it 
says...
> 
> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
> 
> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
> 
> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
> 
> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?

I struggled with this for a long time, but there are two very good 
options.

If you use Outlook (the office program) then the (inexpensive) utility 
gSyncit does an excellent job of synchronising Outlook (Calendar and 
Contacts) with your Google account, and the Google Android Calendar app 
is sufficient for most needs.

If you don't use Outlook for calendar, try the Windows 10 built-in Mail 
program.  You can easily configure it to synchronise with your Google 
calendar and it works seamlessly.

I use Outlook on my main desktop, but use Mail on laptop and tablet, so 
I always have my Calendar and contacts handy.

(only now seeing that this wasn't sent when I expected it to be!)

-- 

Phil, London

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#55840

Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
> In article <pmni39$qog$1@gioia.aioe.org>, dragoesposito@Infostrada.it 
> says...
>> 
>> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
>> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
>> 
>> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
>> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
>> 
>> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
>> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
>> 
>> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?
> 
> I struggled with this for a long time, but there are two very good 
> options.
> 
> If you use Outlook (the office program) 

If you use outlook then just use the outlook calendar on windows and via
the android outlook app. No need to sync via Google calendar.

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#55842

In article <pndrpe$mp$1@dont-email.me>, ithinkiam@gmail.com says...
> 
> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
> > In article <pmni39$qog$1@gioia.aioe.org>, dragoesposito@Infostrada.it 
> > says...
> >> 
> >> I don't normally do calendaring but I'm just forgetting too much lately.
> >> So I have to do something on both the Windows desktop & Android phone.
> >> 
> >> Most of my appointments are personal and are set up in email or by phone.
> >> I read email on a windows desktop using the default Edge web browser.
> >> 
> >> I text and do phone calls on the phone but don't use any calendars yet.
> >> Any good calendar on Android should work since I don't use any yet.
> >> 
> >> What's good for setting up appointments on both windows/android calendars?
> > 
> > I struggled with this for a long time, but there are two very good 
> > options.
> > 
> > If you use Outlook (the office program) 
> 
> If you use outlook then just use the outlook calendar on windows and via
> the android outlook app. No need to sync via Google calendar.

Interesting comment.  I realise that I've been using Outlook with Gmail 
(via gSyncit) for so long I've just about forgotten why I settled on 
that combination.  My calendar and contacts have always (for two 
decades!) been primarily in Outlook (a local .ost file) , so everything 
else is secondary.

I think the reason I started using Google calendar was to have my 
calendar available on my Android mobile at a time before Outlook for 
Android was available (Microsoft bought the original Accompli client, I 
learned today, and branded it as "Outlook mobile" in 2015.)  When I 
tried it (some time later than that), I found that the calendar was then 
read-only.  I first bought gSyncit in early 2013.

Of course, for desktop Outlook to sync with Android Outlook there has to 
be a cloud connection, and if your calendar and contacts are in a local 
.ost file (as mine still are, though now synced with Gmail) then you'll 
need a service to sync through.  If you use Hotmail (now confusingly 
branded Outlook of course) then it'll just work seamlessly.  I see the 
Android client on my mobile has my calendar (now read-write) synced via 
Gmail, so that's easy enough.  But if you use an email service like 
btinternet, which doesn't provide a calendar, then you won't get 
syncing.

I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!) and I guess 
basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much old-
school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail, gmail) 
then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.

-- 

Phil, London

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#55846

Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!) and I guess 
> basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much old-
> school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail, gmail) 
> then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.
> 

Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird + lightning
+ gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a manual import to outlook. 

Now I use outlook and office365 for work, and Google calendar for
everything else. It's just easier to embrace the cloud :)

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#55849

On 09/13/2018 02:55 PM, Chris wrote:
> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!)

Me too!

>> and I guess
>> basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much old-
>> school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail, gmail)
>> then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.
>
> Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird + lightning
> + gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a manual import to outlook.
>
> Now I use outlook and office365 for work, and Google calendar for
> everything else. It's just easier to embrace the cloud :)

I've used tkremind since 1994.  It's my diary.  I don't see how I can 
convert the data to something more modern without a lot of typing.  I 
keep future appointments in Jorte so I can see them on my phone as a 
practical matter, but I don' t really like the format.  And I have a 
paper pocket calendar too.

Dinosaurs R Us.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Bender: And so I ask you this one question: Have you ever tried simply
    turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

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#55850

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/13/2018 02:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!)
> 
> Me too!
> 
>>> and I guess
>>> basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much old-
>>> school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail, gmail)
>>> then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.
>> 
>> Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird + lightning
>> + gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a manual import to outlook.
>> 
>> Now I use outlook and office365 for work, and Google calendar for
>> everything else. It's just easier to embrace the cloud :)
> 
> I've used tkremind since 1994.  It's my diary.  I don't see how I can 
> convert the data to something more modern without a lot of typing.  

It's Linux, everything is possible! :)
https://www.roaringpenguin.com/wiki/index.php/Remind_Helpers

With the above you can export to iCal which can imported into any calendar.

I 
> keep future appointments in Jorte so I can see them on my phone as a 
> practical matter, but I don' t really like the format.  And I have a 
> paper pocket calendar too.

The biggest limitations with paper calendars (for me) are recurring events
and events occurring beyond the timescale of the current calendar (e.g an
appointment received in September for the next February and you haven't
bought next year's calendar yet).

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#55947

The Real Bev wrote:
> On 09/13/2018 02:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!)
> 
> Me too!
> 
>>> and I guess
>>> basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much old-
>>> school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail, gmail)
>>> then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.
>>
>> Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird + 
>> lightning
>> + gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a manual import to 
>> outlook.
>>
>> Now I use outlook and office365 for work, and Google calendar for
>> everything else. It's just easier to embrace the cloud :)
> 
> I've used tkremind since 1994.  It's my diary.  I don't see how I can 
> convert the data to something more modern without a lot of typing.  I 
> keep future appointments in Jorte so I can see them on my phone as a 
> practical matter, but I don' t really like the format.  And I have a 
> paper pocket calendar too.
> 
> Dinosaurs R Us.
> 
Have you tried signing into your gmail account with the Chrome browser 
on a PC and bring up the calendar?

Also I use a program Outlook4Gmail to sync the two calendars.

Jim

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#55948

Hello Jim,

> The Real Bev wrote:
> 
>> On 09/13/2018 02:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!)
>>>> 
>> Me too!
>> 
>>>> and I guess
>>>> basing your personal data primarily on local files is pretty much
>>>> old-
>>>> school.  If you use one of the major cloud services (hotmail,
>>>> gmail)
>>>> then you'll likely find more problems are already solved for you.
>>> Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird +
>>> lightning
>>> + gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a manual import to
>>> outlook.
>>> Now I use outlook and office365 for work, and Google calendar for
>>> everything else. It's just easier to embrace the cloud :)
>>> 
>> I've used tkremind since 1994.  It's my diary.  I don't see how I can
>> convert the data to something more modern without a lot of typing.  I
>> keep future appointments in Jorte so I can see them on my phone as a
>> practical matter, but I don' t really like the format.  And I have a
>> paper pocket calendar too.
>> 
>> Dinosaurs R Us.
>> 
> Have you tried signing into your gmail account with the Chrome browser
> on a PC and bring up the calendar?
> 
> Also I use a program Outlook4Gmail to sync the two calendars.
> 
> Jim
> 
I use Jorte on phone, Kindle and two laptops (one at home, the 11" as a mobile 
super tablet); SWMBO, who has phone and desktop, won't upgrade from a paper 
diary. 

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#55954

On 09/18/2018 06:14 AM, Keith Keith wrote:
> Hello Jim,
>
>> The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/13/2018 02:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>>>
>>>> Philip Herlihy <thiswillbounceback@you.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm probably a dinosaur (I remember using punched cards!)
>>>>>
>>> Me too!
>>>
>>>>> and I guess basing your personal data primarily on local
>>>>> files is pretty much old- school.  If you use one of the
>>>>> major cloud services (hotmail, gmail) then you'll likely find
>>>>> more problems are already solved for you.
>>>> Yep. I used to have a rather convoluted system via thunderbird
>>>> + lightning + gcal plugin to access my Google calendar and a
>>>> manual import to outlook. Now I use outlook and office365 for
>>>> work, and Google calendar for everything else. It's just easier
>>>> to embrace the cloud :)
>>>>
>>> I've used tkremind since 1994.  It's my diary.  I don't see how I
>>> can convert the data to something more modern without a lot of
>>> typing.  I keep future appointments in Jorte so I can see them on
>>> my phone as a practical matter, but I don' t really like the
>>> format.  And I have a paper pocket calendar too.
>>>
>>> Dinosaurs R Us.
>>>
>> Have you tried signing into your gmail account with the Chrome
>> browser on a PC and bring up the calendar?

It looks OK now (I like month-at-a-glance format, which I don't believe
was available when I last looked years ago), but I don't want to make
stuff -- like my or my friends' birthdays, anniversaries, etc. -- as
public as I believe letting google store the information to be.

>> Also I use a program Outlook4Gmail to sync the two calendars.

> I use Jorte on phone, Kindle and two laptops (one at home, the 11" as
> a mobile super tablet); SWMBO, who has phone and desktop, won't
> upgrade from a paper diary.

It's easier to write stuff on paper and then type it on a REAL keyboard
when I get home than it is to use a virtual keyboard.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "If you see me running, try to keep up."
          ...Back of bomb technician's shirt

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