Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > comp.misc > #15031

Re: Net neutrality demise

Show key headers only | View raw

On 2017-11-27, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:59:59 -0000 (UTC)
>> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Usenet, being text only (I'm ignoring the alt.binaries heirarchy here)
>>> is very unlikely to be impacted.  The speed to which they would have to
>>> throttle to make Usenet unusable would result in *every* modern website
>>> being completely unusable to the point that folks would be calling up
>>> their provider thinking their links were down.  And that support call
>>> flood would convince them they had throttled too far.
>> 
>> Au contraire.  It will be considered niche/specialty and made
>> unavailable in traditional packages.  If you want anything other than
>> port 80 you'll have to upgrade to the 'curmudgeon edition' which offers
>> NNTP and gopher and FTP, but costs quite a bit more.
>
> Well, here in the USA, Usenet has already been made "niche/specialty". 
> None of the ISP's left provide any form of Usenet access, even for a
> fee.

Well, they provide *access*, in that you're welcome to establish a
connection to an NNTP server, they just don't run that server. Presumably
since a small and diminishing proportion of their customers used it,
it was impossible to monetise and running a usenet server is a lot
of work.

> If one wants Usenet anymore, one either pays for access through one of
> the paid providers of "just Usenet" or one uses Eternal September/Aioe
> for access.

Same in the UK.

>> If you want access to any non USA/EU sites, that will cost more as
>> well, actually.  Hell, they'll segregate these markets down to the
>> very last domain, and charge accordingly.  Scumbags.
>
> Yep, that is definitely a risk.  The CATV companies are likely drooling
> at the prospect of legally being able to bring CATV style "bundling"
> and "pricing" to the internet.  You want the "Techie Bundle" -
> $10/month more, but Hacker News is special, so that's an extra $5/month
> on top....

I fear that you are entirely correct.

:o(


-- 
Today is Sweetmorn, the 39th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3183
        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Back to comp.misc | Previous | Next — Previous in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread

Thread

Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-21 17:29 -0500
  Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-21 17:33 -0500
  Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-21 22:57 +0000
    Re: Net neutrality demise The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2017-11-22 13:38 -0800
      Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-22 21:59 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-26 18:58 -0500
          Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-27 02:12 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-27 08:34 +0000
              Re: Net neutrality demise RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-11-27 15:52 -0500
                Re: Net neutrality demise Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-11-28 08:04 +0200
                Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-28 08:35 +0000
          Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-27 08:32 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality demise Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-11-28 02:13 -0400
              Re: Net neutrality demise Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-11-28 09:29 +0000
                Re: Net neutrality demise Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2017-11-28 10:29 +0000
                Re: Net neutrality demise Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-11-28 13:56 +0100
              Re: Net neutrality demise Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2017-11-28 11:01 +0000
      Re: Net neutrality demise Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-11-23 23:04 -0600
  Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-14 14:49 -0500
    Re: Net neutrality is dead Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-12-14 21:57 +0000
      Re: Net neutrality is dead snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2017-12-14 22:23 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-15 01:00 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-15 16:19 +0100
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net> - 2017-12-15 18:18 +0200
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2017-12-16 01:55 -0400
      Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-16 21:24 +0000
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2017-12-17 10:15 +0000
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-17 14:54 +0100
            Re: Net neutrality is dead Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2017-12-17 18:27 +0100
              Re: Net neutrality is dead Paul Sture <nospam@sture.ch> - 2017-12-20 10:19 +0100
                Re: Net neutrality is dead Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2017-12-23 14:57 +0100
          Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2017-12-18 00:12 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality is dead Larry Sheldon <lfsheldon@gmail.com> - 2017-12-17 19:25 -0600
          Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-20 02:02 +0000
            Re: Net neutrality is dead arnold@skeeve.com (Aharon Robbins) - 2017-12-20 19:18 +0000
              Re: Net neutrality is dead Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2017-12-23 03:50 +0000
    Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-06-11 14:29 -0400
      Re: Net neutrality is dead RS Wood <rsw@therandymon.com> - 2018-06-12 12:34 -0400
        Re: Net neutrality is dead Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2018-06-18 12:05 +1000

csiph-web