Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Huge Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Net neutrality demise Date: 27 Nov 2017 08:34:56 GMT Organization: Piglet's Pickles & Preserves Lines: 51 Message-ID: References: <20171121172949.029d3854.rsw@therandymon.com> Reply-To: usenet@huge.org.uk X-Trace: individual.net D3akQMcfxctD9GJUH5wh+gItr4sr4uxnp5Z8D8dAlssdRiFHND Cancel-Lock: sha1:PKHAHrXjQ45WormI5p6gBiVAfe0= X-No-Archive: Yes X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) Xref: csiph.com comp.misc:15031 On 2017-11-27, Rich wrote: > RS Wood wrote: >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 21:59:59 -0000 (UTC) >> Rich wrote: >> >>> Usenet, being text only (I'm ignoring the alt.binaries heirarchy here) >>> is very unlikely to be impacted. The speed to which they would have to >>> throttle to make Usenet unusable would result in *every* modern website >>> being completely unusable to the point that folks would be calling up >>> their provider thinking their links were down. And that support call >>> flood would convince them they had throttled too far. >> >> Au contraire. It will be considered niche/specialty and made >> unavailable in traditional packages. If you want anything other than >> port 80 you'll have to upgrade to the 'curmudgeon edition' which offers >> NNTP and gopher and FTP, but costs quite a bit more. > > Well, here in the USA, Usenet has already been made "niche/specialty". > None of the ISP's left provide any form of Usenet access, even for a > fee. Well, they provide *access*, in that you're welcome to establish a connection to an NNTP server, they just don't run that server. Presumably since a small and diminishing proportion of their customers used it, it was impossible to monetise and running a usenet server is a lot of work. > If one wants Usenet anymore, one either pays for access through one of > the paid providers of "just Usenet" or one uses Eternal September/Aioe > for access. Same in the UK. >> If you want access to any non USA/EU sites, that will cost more as >> well, actually. Hell, they'll segregate these markets down to the >> very last domain, and charge accordingly. Scumbags. > > Yep, that is definitely a risk. The CATV companies are likely drooling > at the prospect of legally being able to bring CATV style "bundling" > and "pricing" to the internet. You want the "Techie Bundle" - > $10/month more, but Hacker News is special, so that's an extra $5/month > on top.... I fear that you are entirely correct. :o( -- Today is Sweetmorn, the 39th day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3183 Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.