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Jukka K. Korpela wrote:

> 2013-06-28 18:05, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Sorry to break this to you, but the ECMAScript Language Specification is
>> _not_ “the JavaScript standard”.
> 
> You are saying that the standard, which avoids calling the language
> “JavaScript”,

The Specification does _not_ *avoid* calling “the language” JavaScript.
It says explicitly that the language to be specified there is *also* *based 
on* JavaScript, and it is specifying a language that obviously is 
considerably different from Netscape/Mozilla JavaScript (particularly the 
early versions of it).

You would have known that if you had read more carefully, and if you visited 
the ECMAScript Support Matrix at least once (particularly the new version 
with its SVG Timeline.  The latter was recently inspected and, I am 
satisfied to say, needed only a slight correction, by none other than 
Brendan Eich, creator of JavaScript).

> for foolish reasons

IYVHO.

> related to lawyers’ fancy ideas of trademarks and all,

No, as confirmed by several sources, including Brendan Eich, the parties 
involved could not agree on a name, *therefore* the standard was called 
“ECMAScript”.  After all, it was an Ecma International Technical Committee 
(TC-39), consisting of people from several organizations, that wrote it and 
is still writing it.

> avoids calling the language “JavaScript”.

Again, the Specification is _not_ *avoiding* to call anything anything else; 
it is just specifying something else than you, being blissfully ignorant, 
think it does.

> Everyone else calls it “JavaScript” (in some casing),

Everyone else is wrong, mislead by people like you who do not have the 
slightest clue what they are talking about.  Do you know “Russell's teapot”?

> I think you declared long ago that you killfiled me, […]

I did, and I still have, killfiled you.

> but we all know the value of such statements.

That I am still correcting you when necessary must bother you very much, 
does it not?

JFYI: My filters are intentionally selective, can be temporary, and can be 
disabled.  One should never give up talking sense into some people, even if 
the attempt is expected to be futile, and again it was (or was it not?  
We'll probably never know).  At least there is a chance that *someone* will 
learn from it.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements bugbuster <barryk_56@comcast.net> - 2013-06-25 19:22 -0400
  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-26 02:34 +0200
    Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-26 02:39 +0200
    Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-26 16:10 +0100
      Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-06-26 21:21 +0000
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-27 08:12 +1000
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-06-26 23:21 +0100
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-27 11:58 +1000
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 00:14 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 00:45 +0200
            “javascript”? (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 13:36 +0200
              Re: “javascript”? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-07-29 01:21 +0200
                Re: “javascript”? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-30 08:51 +0200
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 14:52 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-27 14:04 +0300
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 14:45 +0200
              Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 15:11 +0200
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 00:45 +0200
          “javascript”? (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 14:21 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-27 14:31 +0100
            Parlance (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 16:21 +0200
              Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 20:46 +0200
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-28 14:33 +0100
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 15:54 +0200
                Re: Parlance "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-28 17:08 +0300
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 17:05 +0200
                Re: Parlance "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-28 18:16 +0300
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 17:56 +0200
                Re: Parlance Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-06-28 17:54 +0100
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 20:50 +0200
                Re: Parlance Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-29 07:18 +1000
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-29 17:17 +0100
              Re: Parlance (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-28 14:53 +0100
                Re: Parlance Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-15 00:42 +0200
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-07-15 16:01 +0100
  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-26 08:55 +0300
  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-27 21:27 +0100

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