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Christoph Michael Becker wrote:

> John Harris wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2013 00:45:01 +0200, Christoph Michael Becker
>> <cmbecker69@arcor.de> wrote:
>>> In fact, the abbreviation is confusing -- at least for beginners.  When
>>> I was new to the topic (what's not too long ago), I was not aware that
>>> the language and the browser API are not directly related.  Looking up
>>> normative information on the internet was nearly impossible to
>>> accomplish for me in these days.  Fortunately "he" (and Mark David) made
>>> me aware of this "detail".  Otherwise I might still wander around in the
>>> dark...
>> 
>> When you were in your state of not knowing, which would have helped
>> you more :
>> 
>>   Beware : "javascript" is a general name for a multitude of
>>   variants and implementations.
>> 
>> or
>> 
>>   There is no javascript.
>> 
>> The first is my preferred style of teaching. The second is Thomas's
>> parody of a music hall Herr Professor.
> 
> Well, I have to admit that the latter alone is quite confusing.
> However, Thomas' often points to the "ECMAScript Support Matrix" and its
> foreword explains the issue.

And the former one is simply wishful thinking by the inventor(s) of this 
misnomer.  I can understand, even appreciate, that many people want things 
to be (as) simple (as that), but some things are not (that) simple.  One 
must not fall into the trap of oversimplification – it leads to ignorance.

I probably have said this before: One should not call JScript etc. 
“javascript” for the same reason that one should not call a cat a “dog” 
(both are implementations of “domesticated animal equipped with a tail”).

Who prefers to call different things by the same name is not thinking 
clearly.

-- 
PointedEars

Twitter: @PointedEars2
Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

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  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-26 02:34 +0200
    Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-26 02:39 +0200
    Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-26 16:10 +0100
      Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Denis McMahon <denismfmcmahon@gmail.com> - 2013-06-26 21:21 +0000
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-27 08:12 +1000
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-06-26 23:21 +0100
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-27 11:58 +1000
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 00:14 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 00:45 +0200
            “javascript”? (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 13:36 +0200
              Re: “javascript”? Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-07-29 01:21 +0200
                Re: “javascript”? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-07-30 08:51 +0200
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 14:52 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-27 14:04 +0300
            Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Eric Bednarz <bednarz@fahr-zur-hoelle.org> - 2013-06-27 14:45 +0200
              Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 15:11 +0200
        Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 00:45 +0200
          “javascript”? (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 14:21 +0200
          Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-27 14:31 +0100
            Parlance (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-06-27 16:21 +0200
              Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-27 20:46 +0200
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-28 14:33 +0100
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 15:54 +0200
                Re: Parlance "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-28 17:08 +0300
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 17:05 +0200
                Re: Parlance "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-28 18:16 +0300
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 17:56 +0200
                Re: Parlance Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2013-06-28 17:54 +0100
                Re: Parlance Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2013-06-28 20:50 +0200
                Re: Parlance Andrew Poulos <ap_prog@hotmail.com> - 2013-06-29 07:18 +1000
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-29 17:17 +0100
              Re: Parlance (was: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements) John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-28 14:53 +0100
                Re: Parlance Christoph Michael Becker <cmbecker69@arcor.de> - 2013-07-15 00:42 +0200
                Re: Parlance John Harris <niam@jghnorth.org.uk.invalid> - 2013-07-15 16:01 +0100
  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements "Jukka K. Korpela" <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi> - 2013-06-26 08:55 +0300
  Re: How can javascript detect a fieldset in an array of elements Dr J R Stockton <reply1300@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> - 2013-06-27 21:27 +0100

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